True, one party state anyone? I admire China’s system personally.
/s
FerretAres on
I’m sure he’ll get right on that.
free-canadian on
The Liberals would’ve lost 2019 and 2021 if it wasn’t for FPTP. They’re never letting it go, get over it.
draivaden on
I’m all for Proportional.
TheOtherSackville on
I have never forgiven Justin Trudeau for his bait-and-switch promise of electoral reform. Rat bastard.
Tuckebarry on
Why do we keep calling it a ‘new’ government? It’s the same ministers who just swapped positions
The--Majestic--Goose on
People need to start forcing the issue. Contact your MP, and your MLA or MPP. Let them know you give a damn about democracy and want to see a more representative system. Proportional representation is objectively more fair and democratic. Even though a majority of Liberals don’t support it, many of them do. Public pressure can make a difference. Fairvote.ca is a great resource for everything related to proportional representation in this country, and a good way to stay up to date with the latest news on electoral reform.
ersevni on
> a greater number of political parties have smaller portions of seats, and must negotiate among themselves to form a coalition majority government or support a minority government on a case-by-case basis.
Anyone that believes this would be a better system is completely naive. Having to keep everyone’s interests in mind to get anything done is a perfect recipe for stagnation.
I can’t think of anything worse than to have to appease a bunch of small fringe factions to get anything done
Canuckleball on
The next time the Liberals need the NDP to prop up a minority, they need to play hardball on proportional representation. No other demands, no referendum, no committees, adopt either URP or MMP for the next federal election or good luck passing any legislation.
NormalMo on
He didn’t promise it
_Lucille_ on
No FPTP elected party will change the system in a way to ensure they cannot get a majority again by changing the system.
Even in provinces where the NDP is in charge, they are still using FPTP (though BC did try to push for STV and failed)
SyrGwynHeroofAshvale on
Despite what we say online, the Canadian people have proven time and time again that they’re not willing to accept any type of electoral reform.
moxievernors on
It’s also a call for reform in how Parliament and the parties operate. MPs in the UK and Australia have a lot more power within the party structure. Here they’re just sheep required to vote the party line as needed.
We need more free votes and less top down party discipline. Backbenchers should be free to publicly dissent from their leadership without automatically being punished. MPs should be representing their riding in Parliament, not the voice of the party speaking back to their constituents. And this is true for all parties. Justin had a reputation for ignoring his MPs, and the current slate of floor crossers obviously feel the same way about Pierre.
Not that the electoral system doesn’t need changing, but that’s not the only thing.
PostMatureBaby on
Fully behind any politician with the balls to actually do this
Bjartrfroskr on
Politicians uses politics to secure political advantage. Millions shocked.
Tyrocious on
It’s never going to happen.
Why would anyone who benefits from our broken electoral system (by being voted in) do anything to fix it?
Coachrags on
I’m all for electoral reform but maybe this wouldn’t have occurred had conservatives, including PP, voted yes instead of no on the NDP bill to stop floor crossings…
GhettoLennyy on
Thing is Canadians didn’t vote for a liberal majority. I have no opinion on if the majority will be bad or good, I can only say it wasn’t voted for
ThicccThunder on
Electoral reform will happen when pigs fly
potato-truncheon on
We need election reform and an actual functioning Competition Bureau.
PostalBowl on
*Should* do the right thing.
Is it true only Canada, the US and England use first past the post anymore? I don’t know about you but the United States and England are not fairing well and Canada is under threat. The Liberals owe us for their majority, and it should be something we really want, which is election reform… it’s quid pro quo.
vt2022cam on
Jungle primary and top four go on to a ranked choice vote.
JohnDorian0506 on
Nothing will happen. During the campaign, before his party had secured its victory, Trudeau had promised that “2015 will be the last federal election conducted under the first-past-the-post voting system”. [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38831142](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38831142)
nohatallcattle on
Right… except Canadians want him to have a majority. We’re not mad 😂
Marik88 on
Hey, 2015 was the last election under first-past-the-post system, so no issues there!
DukeandKate on
The silent majority of Canadians don’t believe this is a priority right now.
It is clear by the polls that Carney would win a majority anyway so there wouldn’t be any change. It clearly wouldn’t shut Poileive up – he’d find something else to complain about I’m sure. It’s in his nature.
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True, one party state anyone? I admire China’s system personally.
/s
I’m sure he’ll get right on that.
The Liberals would’ve lost 2019 and 2021 if it wasn’t for FPTP. They’re never letting it go, get over it.
I’m all for Proportional.
I have never forgiven Justin Trudeau for his bait-and-switch promise of electoral reform. Rat bastard.
Why do we keep calling it a ‘new’ government? It’s the same ministers who just swapped positions
People need to start forcing the issue. Contact your MP, and your MLA or MPP. Let them know you give a damn about democracy and want to see a more representative system. Proportional representation is objectively more fair and democratic. Even though a majority of Liberals don’t support it, many of them do. Public pressure can make a difference. Fairvote.ca is a great resource for everything related to proportional representation in this country, and a good way to stay up to date with the latest news on electoral reform.
> a greater number of political parties have smaller portions of seats, and must negotiate among themselves to form a coalition majority government or support a minority government on a case-by-case basis.
Anyone that believes this would be a better system is completely naive. Having to keep everyone’s interests in mind to get anything done is a perfect recipe for stagnation.
I can’t think of anything worse than to have to appease a bunch of small fringe factions to get anything done
The next time the Liberals need the NDP to prop up a minority, they need to play hardball on proportional representation. No other demands, no referendum, no committees, adopt either URP or MMP for the next federal election or good luck passing any legislation.
He didn’t promise it
No FPTP elected party will change the system in a way to ensure they cannot get a majority again by changing the system.
Even in provinces where the NDP is in charge, they are still using FPTP (though BC did try to push for STV and failed)
Despite what we say online, the Canadian people have proven time and time again that they’re not willing to accept any type of electoral reform.
It’s also a call for reform in how Parliament and the parties operate. MPs in the UK and Australia have a lot more power within the party structure. Here they’re just sheep required to vote the party line as needed.
We need more free votes and less top down party discipline. Backbenchers should be free to publicly dissent from their leadership without automatically being punished. MPs should be representing their riding in Parliament, not the voice of the party speaking back to their constituents. And this is true for all parties. Justin had a reputation for ignoring his MPs, and the current slate of floor crossers obviously feel the same way about Pierre.
Not that the electoral system doesn’t need changing, but that’s not the only thing.
Fully behind any politician with the balls to actually do this
Politicians uses politics to secure political advantage. Millions shocked.
It’s never going to happen.
Why would anyone who benefits from our broken electoral system (by being voted in) do anything to fix it?
I’m all for electoral reform but maybe this wouldn’t have occurred had conservatives, including PP, voted yes instead of no on the NDP bill to stop floor crossings…
Thing is Canadians didn’t vote for a liberal majority. I have no opinion on if the majority will be bad or good, I can only say it wasn’t voted for
Electoral reform will happen when pigs fly
We need election reform and an actual functioning Competition Bureau.
*Should* do the right thing.
Is it true only Canada, the US and England use first past the post anymore? I don’t know about you but the United States and England are not fairing well and Canada is under threat. The Liberals owe us for their majority, and it should be something we really want, which is election reform… it’s quid pro quo.
Jungle primary and top four go on to a ranked choice vote.
Nothing will happen. During the campaign, before his party had secured its victory, Trudeau had promised that “2015 will be the last federal election conducted under the first-past-the-post voting system”. [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38831142](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38831142)
Right… except Canadians want him to have a majority. We’re not mad 😂
Hey, 2015 was the last election under first-past-the-post system, so no issues there!
The silent majority of Canadians don’t believe this is a priority right now.
It is clear by the polls that Carney would win a majority anyway so there wouldn’t be any change. It clearly wouldn’t shut Poileive up – he’d find something else to complain about I’m sure. It’s in his nature.