Regardless of what you think of the migrant situation, I think this should honestly be disturbing to anyone who respects the democratic process. Parties shouldn’t be trying to coerce areas against voting for certain parties like this by suggesting punitive policies against areas that vote against them.
I will say its a good argument in favour of PR, since this kind of stuff is the product of FPTP where a party can essentially ignore areas that don’t vote for them, or even actively attack them for voting against them. At least under PR a party would have to care for all areas at least to some extent as every vote would count deterring these kinds of punitive policies
OneNormalBloke on
Well, he’ll have free JCB diggers to start off with the foundations.
denyer-no1-fan on
>“This is the fairest approach to ensuring democratic consent for all aspects of our mass deportation programme.”
The Greens absolutely don’t support mass detention of anyone, where is the democratic consent?
PreFuturism-0 on
On that basis, wouldn’t it be fair to defund places voting for the Conservative-REEEs uniparty? You want low(e) taxes? You get low(e) services. Don’t choke on your polluted drinking water. Have a fracking good time!
Codydoc4 on
Of course you will nige, you’ll say anything to dupe your thick voters. This is also right out of trumps playbook *well put X thing in democrat cities/states*
MimesAreShite on
obviously this is deeply unpleasant on a human level, but even on a purely political level this is too cute by half. it might be popular with the american right (and with the bloodthirsty and obsessively anti-green british politics user base on this website), but the wider british public balk at this sort of thing. if there’s one thing that separates british right from the MAGA movement it’s a – quite quintessentially british – belief in fairness, which this sort of cheap campaigning flies in the face of
Chill_Panda on
Love reform and greens going at it like either robe of them would ever be the main party 🤣
cagemeplenty on
Playground politics from Reform.
Not a serious party and certainly a party that want to continue the huge divisions in the UK between people.
ItWasJustBanter1 on
Everyone here crying is surely proving their point? If you want open borders and love migrants so much, deal with them in your leafy middle class areas not the working class towns that have endured them.
nemma88 on
Surly this is backwards, Greens do not support detention centers.
Mitchverr on
Theres a fair few in the Restore Britain movement (which used to be members of Reform UK) and the higher ends of Reform UK that have supported or even outright suggested remigration as a tactic to use.
Putting the detention centres in Green voting areas, knowing that it will cause protests and likely violence in response to the very likely horrific conditions to happen in these camps is goading for the ability to start rounding up the migrants in those areas. Obvious move to be able to bring in draconian laws.
Remember, they made the suggestion that high migrant areas are full of illegal voting/voter fraud.
Remember, they made the suggestion that “if you dont count migrants” they would win.
Remember, several of their leading members past and even present have openly stated if someone isnt White British, they shouldnt be considered a citizen.
Looks to me like they want to put these detention camps right where the people who they want to put into them live… and what happens when entire towns/districts of cities have a couple mass protests/riots over them? The area will be “contained” for “security and safety” I would wager… also called ghettos.
Deffo looks like a very dangerous road we are looking to go down.
coffeewalnut08 on
The usual gaslighters will be all over the thread saying “but what’s wrong with this? Don’t you like living next to these people?”
I have no problem living next to the victims of these centres. Nor do I have a problem living in a multicultural diverse community.
I do have a problem however, with militarised infrastructure and mistreatment centres containing vulnerable people, being developed in my backyard. Inhumane actions in secretive “centres” are unacceptable to me.
This is not difficult to understand. But hey, at least the Green activists could document what Reform is really up to, if the time ever comes.
It’s obviously a bit ridiculous but the idea behind it does make some sense. A lot of Reform areas will be areas hit hard by immigration whilst Green areas are typically the opposite (excluding the inner city areas where being pro-Gaza gets Greens votes). Therefore you currently have Reform and Green voters shouting at each other that they are wrong when they live in different environments.
That said it’s really not a great way to make Green voters “understand” the worldview of Reform because by making it that obvious you will just make Green voters resent Reform rather than resent the demographic change in their areas
It is definitely the sort of strategy governments around the world try by stealth to shore up support in areas that don’t really have a reason to support them. Announcing it publicly is probably a misstep
Astriania on
This is obviously just political gamesmanship, and putting out the message that “you voted for these people to be here, you deal with them”.
I doubt they’d actually do it, and it would clearly be wrong to do so.
However, it does raise the point that migrant hotels and HMOs are currently disproportionately pushed on poor towns which likely voted for parties who don’t want those migrants to be here in the first place. That’s a major factor in their discontent with the main parties, and you can’t help but wonder if your average pro-immigration voter would be so happy about it if they had a migrant hotel next door.
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Regardless of what you think of the migrant situation, I think this should honestly be disturbing to anyone who respects the democratic process. Parties shouldn’t be trying to coerce areas against voting for certain parties like this by suggesting punitive policies against areas that vote against them.
I will say its a good argument in favour of PR, since this kind of stuff is the product of FPTP where a party can essentially ignore areas that don’t vote for them, or even actively attack them for voting against them. At least under PR a party would have to care for all areas at least to some extent as every vote would count deterring these kinds of punitive policies
Well, he’ll have free JCB diggers to start off with the foundations.
>“This is the fairest approach to ensuring democratic consent for all aspects of our mass deportation programme.”
The Greens absolutely don’t support mass detention of anyone, where is the democratic consent?
On that basis, wouldn’t it be fair to defund places voting for the Conservative-REEEs uniparty? You want low(e) taxes? You get low(e) services. Don’t choke on your polluted drinking water. Have a fracking good time!
Of course you will nige, you’ll say anything to dupe your thick voters. This is also right out of trumps playbook *well put X thing in democrat cities/states*
obviously this is deeply unpleasant on a human level, but even on a purely political level this is too cute by half. it might be popular with the american right (and with the bloodthirsty and obsessively anti-green british politics user base on this website), but the wider british public balk at this sort of thing. if there’s one thing that separates british right from the MAGA movement it’s a – quite quintessentially british – belief in fairness, which this sort of cheap campaigning flies in the face of
Love reform and greens going at it like either robe of them would ever be the main party 🤣
Playground politics from Reform.
Not a serious party and certainly a party that want to continue the huge divisions in the UK between people.
Everyone here crying is surely proving their point? If you want open borders and love migrants so much, deal with them in your leafy middle class areas not the working class towns that have endured them.
Surly this is backwards, Greens do not support detention centers.
Theres a fair few in the Restore Britain movement (which used to be members of Reform UK) and the higher ends of Reform UK that have supported or even outright suggested remigration as a tactic to use.
Putting the detention centres in Green voting areas, knowing that it will cause protests and likely violence in response to the very likely horrific conditions to happen in these camps is goading for the ability to start rounding up the migrants in those areas. Obvious move to be able to bring in draconian laws.
Remember, they made the suggestion that high migrant areas are full of illegal voting/voter fraud.
Remember, they made the suggestion that “if you dont count migrants” they would win.
Remember, several of their leading members past and even present have openly stated if someone isnt White British, they shouldnt be considered a citizen.
Looks to me like they want to put these detention camps right where the people who they want to put into them live… and what happens when entire towns/districts of cities have a couple mass protests/riots over them? The area will be “contained” for “security and safety” I would wager… also called ghettos.
Deffo looks like a very dangerous road we are looking to go down.
The usual gaslighters will be all over the thread saying “but what’s wrong with this? Don’t you like living next to these people?”
I have no problem living next to the victims of these centres. Nor do I have a problem living in a multicultural diverse community.
I do have a problem however, with militarised infrastructure and mistreatment centres containing vulnerable people, being developed in my backyard. Inhumane actions in secretive “centres” are unacceptable to me.
This is not difficult to understand. But hey, at least the Green activists could document what Reform is really up to, if the time ever comes.
See also: the US’s “[centres” right now](https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2025/12/estados-unidos-nuevas-investigaciones-revelan-violaciones-de-derechos-humanos-en-los-centros-de-detencion-de-alligator-alcatraz-y-krome-en-florida/)
It’s obviously a bit ridiculous but the idea behind it does make some sense. A lot of Reform areas will be areas hit hard by immigration whilst Green areas are typically the opposite (excluding the inner city areas where being pro-Gaza gets Greens votes). Therefore you currently have Reform and Green voters shouting at each other that they are wrong when they live in different environments.
That said it’s really not a great way to make Green voters “understand” the worldview of Reform because by making it that obvious you will just make Green voters resent Reform rather than resent the demographic change in their areas
It is definitely the sort of strategy governments around the world try by stealth to shore up support in areas that don’t really have a reason to support them. Announcing it publicly is probably a misstep
This is obviously just political gamesmanship, and putting out the message that “you voted for these people to be here, you deal with them”.
I doubt they’d actually do it, and it would clearly be wrong to do so.
However, it does raise the point that migrant hotels and HMOs are currently disproportionately pushed on poor towns which likely voted for parties who don’t want those migrants to be here in the first place. That’s a major factor in their discontent with the main parties, and you can’t help but wonder if your average pro-immigration voter would be so happy about it if they had a migrant hotel next door.