Gee, who could have possibly seen this happening with the last 10 years of developments?
PotentialBrother6913 on
Are we still collectively pretending there isn’t an issue with unvetted foreign men running around showing us how they view British women? If not, let’s continue to blame little boys for watching edgy content online.
Stop playing stupid, you can’t take the moral high ground all while denying the statistics.
supergodmasterforce on
Yep. I am one of those parents.
This is such a concern for us that we do not even let her go to school in a skirt as there have been several incidents of a sexual nature occur at her school. This is primary school by the way.
JustWhy1222 on
You mean the government promoting a fictional Netflix documentary didn’t cut to the heart of this issue?.
Say it ain’t so.
PurahsHero on
Before this gets inevitably filled with the “well achkstually” type of responses, I thought I would share some of the experiences of women in my life.
My wife told me of the time she got stalked by a random guy when she was walking home from school. This guy had his penis out and was touching it the whole time.
My sister told me of the time three guys surrounded her at a bus stop, saying how pretty she was and how they wanted just “a little taste.” It was only because my Dad happened to drive by and got out of the car that it didn’t go further.
With my niece I was there when it happened. We were cycling along a road, with her in front of me, and a guy leaned out of a passing car window, slapped her arse, and said “that’s a mighty fine view, luv.” She was 13 years old at the time.
I’m shocked women go out and trust men at all. Because while they know most guys are good, every woman has that kind of story or experience, and you cannot tell what guys are the good ones.
Dapper_Otters on
Without trying to sound too dismissive, the article doesn’t show a comparison over time to say whether parents are more or less fearful.
Parents being overprotective of their daughters in particular is a phenomenon as old as time, so it’s important to know what the trend looks like.
The90swerebrill on
Im sure most women are worried for their daughter’s in today’s climate. Things are getting worse very quickly.
Groovy66 on
Even with an adult daughter – she’s 27 – I still have her on my Uber and insist if she is out and about in the evening/night without her fella that she takes a cab.
Boozed up blokes are always a worry and Manchester city centre has always been a bit dodgy even before the rise in misogynistic online bollocks and the influx of undocumented men.
It’s like a perfect storm of circumstances making civic spaces less safe for women.
vikingwhiteguy on
I figured this was just the default state of being a parent. You’re continually scanning the environment for anything potentially dangerous, RoboCop style.
Although I’m mostly afraid of cars, scissors and batteries.
bodyisT on
Which is funny because girls/women are actually safer than men/boys
CharacterMaybe7950 on
Ohh! Must be election time! Let’s try and persuade everyone that there’s more serial killers – than boxes of cereal – in the UK!
Do the records show crime is getting worse? Or do they show historic falls? Who cares if it interferes with my narrative!
I’d worry about a daughter, the ‘red pill’ manosphere, threat of her rights being removed by certain political parties pushing for Gov in 2029 who have made their views on abortion for example very clear.
My son I can teach to be respectful, however I cannot teach other person’s son to behave correctly around a daughter.
Rough-Army-6424 on
How long before the pro open border brigade call genuine and rational fears as melodramatic?
Leather_Bat5939 on
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Wrong-booby7584 on
This is why teaching girls martial arts is so important.
EmuComprehensive8200 on
I worry about my mum and sister all the time in North London. I moved way out into a tiny German village a decade ago and its a world away from where I grew up. Just an all round high trust society. When I’m back home, I am really in despair. It was already a bit ropey when I left and definitely saw cracks appearing but as long as you had your wits about you, you could get along. Anyway mostly my dad would pick me up on nights out or when I went to the airport just to be sure. My sister just moved out to Edmonton for whatever reason. Bless her she’s worked her arse off and got a good paying council job now, but she is out and about a lot for work. You can’t live in fear all your life of course, but I am always thinking of her like every day. At least my mum gets picked up by my dad from work so I don’t have to worry as much, but she’s getting on a bit as well. She’s told me enough stories.. doesn’t sound at all like the same place we grew up in. Maybe I’m over reacting, but the last times I was there it just feels like not a place I felt OK to be alone. I barely went out for 2 weeks last visit.
pronology on
We have two daughters growing up in Northern Ireland. We will probably move south of the border to get them away from all the fucked up men here (I say this as a man myself).
PalePlumm on
I was pretty relieved when I found out I was having boys because of this.
Like, I don’t have a gender preference for my children, but before I knew their genders I did worry a lot more when I wondered about their futures as women than I did as men. Now one of my main concern for my boys is keeping them away from the manosphere and red pill spaces. I don’t need them growing up to hammer their jawbones into place and dehumanize women.
jenny_905 on
Parents who grew up in a far more dangerous time, no doubt.
sirnoggin on
The number of people on here complaining about women and girls in danger rightly so – But will not vote for the solution – boggles my mind.
If you DO NOT vote for a party that will fix the problem up and down the country, you are part of the problem. Please sort out your own town, or move out of the way for someone who will. Who continue to watch things go downhill and do nothing about it. Thank you.
Confident_Resolution on
Oh what tripe.
Parents have _always_ feared for their daughters safety, even in very safe places.
99thLuftballon on
I really dislike surveys of people’s “fear” of things, as they’re always used as a false impression of the real frequency of those things, and seldom to address whether the media is giving a false impression of how afraid people should reasonably be.
It’s like the common observation that people’s fear of crime goes up as the incidence rate of crime goes down. Fear of crime isn’t a measure of crime prevalence, but the media uses it as though it is. Fear of crime is a measure of how the media (including social media) reports crime.
It’s a self-fulfilling prophesy, since the media reports “terror of crime is at an all time high”, so people think “OMG, crime is at an all time high? That’s terrifying!”
MissGraceRose on
Ah, that’s because lots of men are predators and even more are okay with it. That’s all it is.
Alternative-Bite-737 on
Where is the fear that our sons will grow up to be perpetrators of the harassment?
TheHyperLynx on
Im not a dad but some of the stories i seemake me worry about all the women in my family and that are close to me, doesn’t matter what age women are there are a lot of creepy and dangerous people out there. And the most worrying part is that its all too common and not dealt with.
Razzilith on
no shit. they’re correct.
fucking world is batshit right now.
budgrummur on
The main risk to women and girls in public are men. Maybe the parents of boys should be more worried how their kids will be making the public spaces unsafe.
Joneb1999 on
Like someone else said bad people are no more likely to be encountered than they were before except now we are so much more aware. There are so many historical cases being frequently reported in the news going back really far.
Many people are just too ignorant. Those FB posts with lists of the things people did as children and still turned out okay are misrepresentative of the actual times often misted over by nostalgia, clouded by time and memory and from very personalised experience where people were too young and distracted to gather actual facts.
Today though young people should have the chance to have better information and guidance to allow them to still enjoy their environment as much as us oldies did but be much safer. Having a phone with a limited data SIM and using family filters is very important because it can be a lifeline that oldies didn’t have.
Kids can be taught if they see something suspicious out and about, like a child being threatened by an adult to take a photo if they themselves are inconspicuous and safe, not to draw attention. Make sure their gps is always on and their phone set to be tracked or found.
bars_and_plates on
The thing that always comes to mind on these matters is –
When I grew up, really not that long ago at all, my primary school in a bog standard city was basically an open building. When I grew up a bit I used to tutor kids at home based on referrals.
Nowadays it’s like a prison with an unscaleable fence, safeguarding, Prevent, everyone wants a “CRB check”, etc.
I don’t actually think we have a _meaningful_ difference in child abuse or bad outcomes of really any sort. In particular I would argue that people feel less safe now than they did then, essentially due to repeated exposure to stories that make it seem as if this stuff is commonplace.
Gurmtron on
No, i have 2 boys aswell as a daughter. You’re statistically far more likely to be the victim of personal violence and murder as a man. Also a far higher rate of false accusations are directed towards men.
InformationNew66 on
Feeling unsafe is how you keep people in fear and controlled.
Seems like all is going according to the government’s plan.
Now, if we could only put a tracking and listening device on every man, things would surely be solved.
ExtensionPort on
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Mission_Plantain_729 on
My mother welcome and allowing bullies (fake friend) sleeping in former family’s house. But I’m not British. I feel very unsafe and traumatised at alone outside
BlackSpinedPlinketto on
I’m a dad to a young kid, I’m worried about her all the time for everything. I know she’s going to be fine though, but if you ask me ‘are you worried something bad will happen to her’ I probably won’t sleep the night.
When I was a kid they let us out to roam the streets as long as we liked, we all did stupid things. Some did get hurt, honestly.
People are mainly safe in public. Even kids.
shinyruins on
First time I was harassed was when I was 10. I was tall for my age, but flat as an ironing board. I looked like a 10 yr old, so there’s no excuse that I looked older or whatever.
It got worst when I finally hit puberty. Guys on buses and trains, men old enough to be my father or worse still my grandfather. It only stopped once I was in my late 30s and went gray.
Consistent-Sport-481 on
0.029% is not most parents good lord these articles are utter tripe
Inside_Field_8894 on
Haven’t the rates of single parents gone up?
If this corellates to daughters being more unsafe then maybe we could start there?
TheNinthGateLCF on
Is there actually any evidence that women are less safe now than twenty years ago?
Any time I look at a completely unbiased survey, it says women are rarely harassed or assaulted in public places.
E.g. Northern Ireland Life and Times Survey.
InterestingWorth3917 on
Maybe we shouldn’t be bringing in millions of military age men from terrorist incel hellholes that hate women.
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Gee, who could have possibly seen this happening with the last 10 years of developments?
Are we still collectively pretending there isn’t an issue with unvetted foreign men running around showing us how they view British women? If not, let’s continue to blame little boys for watching edgy content online.
**Edit**
[https://www.migrationcentral.co.uk/p/up-to-third-of-sexual-assaults-committed](https://www.migrationcentral.co.uk/p/up-to-third-of-sexual-assaults-committed)
Stop playing stupid, you can’t take the moral high ground all while denying the statistics.
Yep. I am one of those parents.
This is such a concern for us that we do not even let her go to school in a skirt as there have been several incidents of a sexual nature occur at her school. This is primary school by the way.
You mean the government promoting a fictional Netflix documentary didn’t cut to the heart of this issue?.
Say it ain’t so.
Before this gets inevitably filled with the “well achkstually” type of responses, I thought I would share some of the experiences of women in my life.
My wife told me of the time she got stalked by a random guy when she was walking home from school. This guy had his penis out and was touching it the whole time.
My sister told me of the time three guys surrounded her at a bus stop, saying how pretty she was and how they wanted just “a little taste.” It was only because my Dad happened to drive by and got out of the car that it didn’t go further.
With my niece I was there when it happened. We were cycling along a road, with her in front of me, and a guy leaned out of a passing car window, slapped her arse, and said “that’s a mighty fine view, luv.” She was 13 years old at the time.
I’m shocked women go out and trust men at all. Because while they know most guys are good, every woman has that kind of story or experience, and you cannot tell what guys are the good ones.
Without trying to sound too dismissive, the article doesn’t show a comparison over time to say whether parents are more or less fearful.
Parents being overprotective of their daughters in particular is a phenomenon as old as time, so it’s important to know what the trend looks like.
Im sure most women are worried for their daughter’s in today’s climate. Things are getting worse very quickly.
Even with an adult daughter – she’s 27 – I still have her on my Uber and insist if she is out and about in the evening/night without her fella that she takes a cab.
Boozed up blokes are always a worry and Manchester city centre has always been a bit dodgy even before the rise in misogynistic online bollocks and the influx of undocumented men.
It’s like a perfect storm of circumstances making civic spaces less safe for women.
I figured this was just the default state of being a parent. You’re continually scanning the environment for anything potentially dangerous, RoboCop style.
Although I’m mostly afraid of cars, scissors and batteries.
Which is funny because girls/women are actually safer than men/boys
Ohh! Must be election time! Let’s try and persuade everyone that there’s more serial killers – than boxes of cereal – in the UK!
Do the records show crime is getting worse? Or do they show historic falls? Who cares if it interferes with my narrative!
(And crime has massively reduced)
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/crimeinenglandandwales/yearendingdecember2025
https://data.justice.gov.uk/cjs-statistics/cjs-crime?utm_source=copilot.com
I’d worry about a daughter, the ‘red pill’ manosphere, threat of her rights being removed by certain political parties pushing for Gov in 2029 who have made their views on abortion for example very clear.
My son I can teach to be respectful, however I cannot teach other person’s son to behave correctly around a daughter.
How long before the pro open border brigade call genuine and rational fears as melodramatic?
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This is why teaching girls martial arts is so important.
I worry about my mum and sister all the time in North London. I moved way out into a tiny German village a decade ago and its a world away from where I grew up. Just an all round high trust society. When I’m back home, I am really in despair. It was already a bit ropey when I left and definitely saw cracks appearing but as long as you had your wits about you, you could get along. Anyway mostly my dad would pick me up on nights out or when I went to the airport just to be sure. My sister just moved out to Edmonton for whatever reason. Bless her she’s worked her arse off and got a good paying council job now, but she is out and about a lot for work. You can’t live in fear all your life of course, but I am always thinking of her like every day. At least my mum gets picked up by my dad from work so I don’t have to worry as much, but she’s getting on a bit as well. She’s told me enough stories.. doesn’t sound at all like the same place we grew up in. Maybe I’m over reacting, but the last times I was there it just feels like not a place I felt OK to be alone. I barely went out for 2 weeks last visit.
We have two daughters growing up in Northern Ireland. We will probably move south of the border to get them away from all the fucked up men here (I say this as a man myself).
I was pretty relieved when I found out I was having boys because of this.
Like, I don’t have a gender preference for my children, but before I knew their genders I did worry a lot more when I wondered about their futures as women than I did as men. Now one of my main concern for my boys is keeping them away from the manosphere and red pill spaces. I don’t need them growing up to hammer their jawbones into place and dehumanize women.
Parents who grew up in a far more dangerous time, no doubt.
The number of people on here complaining about women and girls in danger rightly so – But will not vote for the solution – boggles my mind.
If you DO NOT vote for a party that will fix the problem up and down the country, you are part of the problem. Please sort out your own town, or move out of the way for someone who will. Who continue to watch things go downhill and do nothing about it. Thank you.
Oh what tripe.
Parents have _always_ feared for their daughters safety, even in very safe places.
I really dislike surveys of people’s “fear” of things, as they’re always used as a false impression of the real frequency of those things, and seldom to address whether the media is giving a false impression of how afraid people should reasonably be.
It’s like the common observation that people’s fear of crime goes up as the incidence rate of crime goes down. Fear of crime isn’t a measure of crime prevalence, but the media uses it as though it is. Fear of crime is a measure of how the media (including social media) reports crime.
It’s a self-fulfilling prophesy, since the media reports “terror of crime is at an all time high”, so people think “OMG, crime is at an all time high? That’s terrifying!”
Ah, that’s because lots of men are predators and even more are okay with it. That’s all it is.
Where is the fear that our sons will grow up to be perpetrators of the harassment?
Im not a dad but some of the stories i seemake me worry about all the women in my family and that are close to me, doesn’t matter what age women are there are a lot of creepy and dangerous people out there. And the most worrying part is that its all too common and not dealt with.
no shit. they’re correct.
fucking world is batshit right now.
The main risk to women and girls in public are men. Maybe the parents of boys should be more worried how their kids will be making the public spaces unsafe.
Like someone else said bad people are no more likely to be encountered than they were before except now we are so much more aware. There are so many historical cases being frequently reported in the news going back really far.
Many people are just too ignorant. Those FB posts with lists of the things people did as children and still turned out okay are misrepresentative of the actual times often misted over by nostalgia, clouded by time and memory and from very personalised experience where people were too young and distracted to gather actual facts.
Today though young people should have the chance to have better information and guidance to allow them to still enjoy their environment as much as us oldies did but be much safer. Having a phone with a limited data SIM and using family filters is very important because it can be a lifeline that oldies didn’t have.
Kids can be taught if they see something suspicious out and about, like a child being threatened by an adult to take a photo if they themselves are inconspicuous and safe, not to draw attention. Make sure their gps is always on and their phone set to be tracked or found.
The thing that always comes to mind on these matters is –
When I grew up, really not that long ago at all, my primary school in a bog standard city was basically an open building. When I grew up a bit I used to tutor kids at home based on referrals.
Nowadays it’s like a prison with an unscaleable fence, safeguarding, Prevent, everyone wants a “CRB check”, etc.
I don’t actually think we have a _meaningful_ difference in child abuse or bad outcomes of really any sort. In particular I would argue that people feel less safe now than they did then, essentially due to repeated exposure to stories that make it seem as if this stuff is commonplace.
No, i have 2 boys aswell as a daughter. You’re statistically far more likely to be the victim of personal violence and murder as a man. Also a far higher rate of false accusations are directed towards men.
Feeling unsafe is how you keep people in fear and controlled.
Seems like all is going according to the government’s plan.
Now, if we could only put a tracking and listening device on every man, things would surely be solved.
[ Removed by Reddit ]
My mother welcome and allowing bullies (fake friend) sleeping in former family’s house. But I’m not British. I feel very unsafe and traumatised at alone outside
I’m a dad to a young kid, I’m worried about her all the time for everything. I know she’s going to be fine though, but if you ask me ‘are you worried something bad will happen to her’ I probably won’t sleep the night.
When I was a kid they let us out to roam the streets as long as we liked, we all did stupid things. Some did get hurt, honestly.
People are mainly safe in public. Even kids.
First time I was harassed was when I was 10. I was tall for my age, but flat as an ironing board. I looked like a 10 yr old, so there’s no excuse that I looked older or whatever.
It got worst when I finally hit puberty. Guys on buses and trains, men old enough to be my father or worse still my grandfather. It only stopped once I was in my late 30s and went gray.
0.029% is not most parents good lord these articles are utter tripe
Haven’t the rates of single parents gone up?
If this corellates to daughters being more unsafe then maybe we could start there?
Is there actually any evidence that women are less safe now than twenty years ago?
Any time I look at a completely unbiased survey, it says women are rarely harassed or assaulted in public places.
E.g. Northern Ireland Life and Times Survey.
Maybe we shouldn’t be bringing in millions of military age men from terrorist incel hellholes that hate women.