Ousting Starmer won’t ‘magically improve’ country as PM ‘gets it’, says Education Secretary
https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/keir-starmer-leadership-resignation-phillipson-5HjdYtj_2/
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Ousting Starmer won’t ‘magically improve’ country as PM ‘gets it’, says Education Secretary
https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/keir-starmer-leadership-resignation-phillipson-5HjdYtj_2/
Posted by tylerthe-theatre
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Labour’s left is just playing into Reform’s hand, the moment Starmer is gone everyone else will be demanding snap election as this will not have been not the government the people had voted for
Gets what?
This is the bloke who saw the election results and took that as a indication that the electorate are crying out for him to Starmer harder.
MP who lost to anti starmer left candidate for deputy leader insists that they’re competent
I just want an end to the revolving door of PMs ffs. One person finishing their term would be nice.
I mean, I agree, but when you’re down to NOTHING ELSE CAN SPARE US FROM WHAT’S COMING as a defence, you can see why other people are desperate and scared enough to mash all the buttons and see if anything happens
Is this country allergic to a bit of stability? It seems like a we need a constant crisis to worry about.
He gets it, but not if that “it” is disabled people’s lives
Labour. 3 things and you win.
1. You need charisma at the the top. It’s way more important today that ever. Get a populist leader, fill the cabinet with the quality.
2. Get a really clear, strong message on immigration. Make it the no.1 thing you do and disarm reform.
3. Stop putting in policy that affects only the lowest earners, you kill your votes in the insanely squeezed middle and SMBs, which should be your stomping ground. Even if this means you reverse the aggressive reduction on national debt. No one cares about it.
Edit: For the replies, re 2 – you don’t need to pander, you just need to be clear and strong on whatever policy you make. The fact you think this tells me you don’t know politics. This is what reform does well. A simple message in the language voters understand ‘stop the boats’. Labour need to do their own e.g., ‘We closed every migrant hotel’ or whatever.
It’s the same issue as anti climate, flat earth earthers, anti vaxers etc. Being on the side of science or being ‘right’ is no longer good enough. You can’t argue with stupid you just need to give them something else to be misinformed about.
Honestly reckon Starmer could have turned this around had he just sacked Rachel Reeves as chancellor after the third embarrassing U-turn. If he wants to stay in position, a complete cabinet overhaul is his only option.
Changing PM won’t change a damn thing. The stories the Tory newspapers focus on are the only ones getting shoved through my feed. The best thing Starmer can do is go heavy on counterattack with his own PR of projects being carried out.
Starmer is the last serious politician around. It will get a whole lot worse without him
Look I get that there’s a bunch of people who really want to establish a narrative that Starmer is about to be toppled (and apparently has been for a whole year now).
But, if I may address them for a second – if you guys post a new story about it every ten seconds (especially nothing stories like this one where she’s actually supporting him) it really starts looking like a concerted effort rather than anything organic.
Spread it out a little, maybe intersperse with some good old fashioned immigrant bashing and it’ll look better.
Yup, exactly.
Labour need to sort out the media, and get on with making our lives feel better.
It was working until the USA Iran war. Trump screwed us, and Labour are taking the hit. Imagine if Farage was in power – we would have been sending troops in and it would have escalated to much more.
But it would sell more papers and that’s almost all the media barons care about.
There’s a reason all the right-wing commentators and newspapers (the same who told you Brexit, Johnson and Truss were the best thing since sliced bread) are pushing Starmer to resign so hard – because they know it will fundamentally be worse for Labour.
If him staying was so bad for Labour, they’d be begging him to stay.
He has said multiple times that he “gets it” and has had at least 3 resets in less than 2 years. The majority of the public understand that the status quo doesn’t work for them yet he hasn’t suggested any radical policy to change it. That is why people can’t stand him.
And Bridget will be out on her ass at the next election unless something changes
It’s not about ousting him is the magical solution, he has to go because he’s so unpopular even if he did everything right he would still lose the election. People want change.
Yet Starmer ignores vetting process and employ a corrupt individual with close friendship with a Billionaire peadophile and blames his staff even though being a former director of prosecutions he still thinks he can pull the wool over our eyes.
Bring in Andy Burnham he will also put the North back on the map not like this southern centric lot.
It is very strange and no signs of a corrupt and pointless system when Ms Phillipson in previous years called for multiple Conservatives to resign ……………………………………..
But it would show the public, for the first time, that you actually listen them.
I recently looked up a list of the starmer scandals, literally none would have been
deemed an actual scandal under any other party in the last 15 years.
Farage recently accepted tickets to a football match as a guest of a foreign govt and it barely even made the news.
Changing leader will not change a thing but will make the media even more powerful and frenzied.
I think we’re past the point that anything can be done though. People love politics as the new reality TV.
Well I doubt he’s getting it from her.
What’s happening with the rent boy trial by the way?
It’s funny how all these labour MP’s, and Kier Wong-Un himself, were repeatedly calling for resignations from the opposition every chance they got. Then when they fuck everything up it’s “we need to steer the course and remain strong”.
I guess he didn’t earn the nickname “two tier” without good reason.
They’re all the same
Doing literally anything won’t magically make labour competent
How do you expect a leader to turn around 10-20 years of mismanagement in 2 years it makes no sense, why are people so flip floppy.
Starmer is making improvements slowly, it was never going to be straightforward.
Do people really think someone can come in reduce taxes, improve public services, boost wages, reduce inflation solve housing and unemployment crises and bring down public debt? That’s not how the real world works.
She’s right, simply replacing him won’t solve all the problems, however I think there’s ample evidence from the last 2 years that he really doesn’t get it
Rejoining the EU would help a lot. I wish Starmer would just do it and we’d all be better off
There right, there is no labor PM willingly to cut redtape, encourage brown field development, force all of London to build massively and make it a Tokyo style mega city and removing any veto on green energy.
But, what other political options does labor have?
Is actually take her over Starmer. She seems to have way more passion and she’s a better speaker.
We’re getting to that point of wanting elections every 2 years… maybe it would be fun and keep the parties on their toes.
You would have thought, as a country we would have learnt replacing leaders, like we did with the tories, does fuck all other than sell newspapers.
He could do something people want and impacts their lives quickly, like not allowing the water bills to go up 50%+ while the service degrades. They could have taxed the ultra rich and the way they avoid tax (multi-millionaire & billionaires, not talking about 99.9% of people) and use it to fund reduced student loans, alter all the other tax bands, new hospitals, more doctors or anything that sounds interesting the population.
Switching PM and keeping the same party people know isn’t going to change anything, until they can cause show real direct impact on cost of living and other hot topics.