The Democrats Just Laid Down Their Arms. Again. – Abigail Spanberger’s response to the court decision that overthrew the will of voters on redistricting is a worrying sign of surrender.

    https://newrepublic.com/post/210536/virginia-redistricting-fight-spanberger-court

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    1. 2HDFloppyDisk on

      Let’s just forget why you were elected and do whatever the f you want, huh?

    2. A_Refill_of_Mr_Pibb on

      This country is going to fall to authoritarianism while these people continue to indulge their obsession with process. 

    3. Extension-Society455 on

      So like….what were you guys EXPECTING her to do? Honestly asking.

    4. Slaughterfest on

      Wasn’t everyone talking about how she was the new face of the resistance like a month ago? The former intelligence officer?

      Ok.

    5. Difference is I would bet if they pulled an Ohio and used the map anyway Trunp would just activate the national guard and stop voting. You dont need to worry about that in red states.

    6. FireMedic66 on

      Stop waiting for the politicians to save you. They are not on your team.

    7. justor-gone on

      as a constituent, i’m terrified she’s going to be part of the generation of Democrats who use caution and principle to progressively abdicate power.

      It does not gain the approval of her voters, in fact in repels them. It minimizes the threat not just to people’s political system, but to their actual lives.

      Any Democrat who henceforth runs for office needs to understand that boldness is an attribute they need to not only claim, but demonstrate. Business as Usual is out of business. The new paradigm should be Any Means Necessary .

    8. F1BlackFlag on

      I am so fucking sick and tired of our representatives, being the pussies that they are.

      Its time to fight .. NOT back down ..

    9. So the state legislature could empty the state Supreme Court majority and have the voter approved map again but she won’t advance this? It’s really late in the game to not use any and every tool to fight the white nationalists.

    10. herewegoagain1024 on

      What exactly did you guys want them to do? I get the frustration with the dems folding time and time again but this isn’t one of those times. Hands are tied this time. They’ve actually gone back and forth with maga on the redistricting since Texas did it

    11. CrunchitizeMeCaptn on

      Idk how to do the indentation, but to those (like I was) wondering what she could do to respond per the article:

      > “The idea Yeargain poses would be to lower the official retirement age to 54 by placing a modification in the annual budget bill that’s due by June 30, pass the legislation, and replace the hack justices—all of whom are older than 54—with seven new ones picked by Spanberger.”

    12. cumtribgooner on

      Expected outcome. There is an authoritarianism train barreling down the tracks and most democrats seem complicit getting ran over. WAKE UP!

    13. SillyGoatGruff on

      Seems to me that if you are going to change the retirement age of judges so you can throw out the current batch and install specific ones that will rule in your favour on a fast tracked rehearing, you might as well just ignore the judges and do whatever you want regardless

    14. Chambanasfinest on

      Supreme Court justices ARE political actors, whether they like it/admit it or not.

      Overruling a free and fair election, the will of the people, on a 4-3 split decision due to a technicality, should absolutely result in political consequences.

    15. MentalHealthSociety on

      I hate these morons who use their ignorance of basic civics to craft extremely emotive arguments entirely divorced from reality. Do these people think that there’s just a “resist” button Dems can press, and once they press it enough, Trump will be defeated? The most maddening thing is that they don’t actually care about beating Republicans or fighting authoritarianism; they just use terms that *imply* they do whilst pushing the same strategies and policies they would if Republicans were only their normal level of bad.

    16. At the time of this posting, there are about 100 commenters in here who don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about, but they are very angry about it.

    17. Well if they had a plan, it’s probably best not to tell your opponents until the last possible minute. Telling them now just give them time to stop you.

    18. Prudent-Flamingo1679 on

      This is why rich moderates can’t be trusted. They’ve got no skin on the game.

    19. As much as I despise what the Supreme Court has become, saying Dems just rolled over after the decision is just clickbait. VA didn’t follow the rules and SCOTUS called them out for it. Harness the anger and do it right next time.

    20. Lostinstereo28 on

      Another day, another article bashing democrats on r/politics. Never change

    21. Rehcamretsnef on

      Maybe they learned how to read and discovered their efforts are futile?

    22. Sorry but this glut of articles excoriating Dems for declining to reset the retirement age and replace existing justices is clickbait.

      They all fail to mention that the VA Department of Elections’ had a strict May 12 deadline for finalizing congressional maps in time for early voting in June.

      So there was no logistical way to pass the law to lower the retirement age, boot the old judges, all the new judges, redraw the maps, and send them back to court.

      Had the Supreme Court delivered this opinion in January instead of May 8, then these criticisms might be more valid.

      But as it stands, they are just shitting on Dems for something that was never even feasible in the first place.

    23. The Democrats in VA didn’t even follow their own rules in setting up the legislation for a vote. It is a long detailed process before an item like that can be put on the ballot in VA. That’s why the state court pulled the plug on it.

    24. Elegant_Situation285 on

      “gee, you vote Democrat anyway, why not just join the party?”

      this shit, right here.

    25. Yet another “the dems, who aren’t in power, once again didn’t do enough.” astroturfing for the right. This country is cooked, then again that was obvious when Trump got re-elected.

    26. ceelogreenicanth on

      I’m curious what exactly can be done? Legally that wont get overturnwd by the supreme court?

      What magical method is proposed?

      There are things to do that will kick in after this election cycle but what is that going to achieve?