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    Vigil held for Congolese man who died in city centre, as Taoiseach calls for thorough investigation
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    Vigil held for Congolese man who died in city centre, as Taoiseach calls for thorough investigation

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    1. Eevee526 on

      No one seems to be clearing this up last few days though, was he actually shoplifting or not? Or was it suspicion and he got spooked and ran and got chased? Either way RIP.

      I’ve been in Arnotts before and been followed around for no other reason than I must not have looked right to them, I’ve never stolen a thing in my life and been made to feel very uncomfortable sometimes in shops.

    3. Otherwise_Fined on

      The original report says he “became unresponsive” while this article implies he was killed by the security guards while they were pinning him down.

    4. IdealParty1802 on

      Can’t find one coherent story of what happened, what actually happened?

    5. tennereachway on

      > Asked about recent immigration comments made by former Taoiseach Bertie Ahern, in which he mentioned “the Congo” by name, O’Callaghan said it is “an unfortunate coincidence”.

      > “I don’t think there’s any relationship between what former Taoiseach Bertie Ahern said and the incident that happened on Saturday.”

      Yeah, I really don’t an insensitive albeit offhand remark from a former taoiseach who left power nearly 20 years ago compelled the guards to murder a man in the city centre. This is just a weird thing to shoehorn into the article.

    7. N81Warrior on

      Let’s be clear: no one deserves to die for suspected shoplifting. The guards must conduct their investigations impartially and without outside influence or interference. The individual involved was reportedly well known for shoplifting, and likely recognized by store detectives and security personnel in the area.

      The pressing question is whether the death resulted from the circumstances of his restraint and if those who carried out the restraint were properly trained to do so safely and in a controlled manner. Additionally, it must be clarified whether a private security company or an in-house security team was responsible.

      Since this incident resulted in a death in the workplace, the PSA (Private Security Authority) and HSA (Health and Safety Authority) should also be involved to ensure the investigation adheres to relevant safety and legal protocols.

    8. blckrcknbts on

      To everyone thinking it matters whether or not he was shoplifting or thinking he must have done something to precipitate this situation: try to imagine for a moment what it would be like to have 4 or 5 heavy men kneeling and sitting on top of you, crushing and suffocating you, and that the more you struggle to escape or breathe the more they press down on you and who won’t listen to you. Honestly imagine it for a moment and how futile and powerless you would be. Its horrifying. And then see if you can equivocate on his culpability. It is IRRELEVANT.

    9. bigbadchief on

      I’ve already seen people on social media trying to turn this into a racial “black lives matter” thing. 

      I don’t think there’s any evidence that this man’s race had anything to do with his treatment, and I hate the sort of divisive identity politics that is infecting modern society. 

    10. YungHoban on

      Pasted from a comment I made on r/Dublin.

      I work on Henry Street. Behind the counter we have a radio that is linked with every security guard on the street. The stuff they come out with is very racist and they use code phrases to describe minorities.

      EDIT – A lot of people seem to take this as an attack on the Irish public, as though I’m painting Irish society as outright racist. I’m not. I’m pointing at a very real, and very toxic security ecosystem on the street.

    11. Working_Stomach476 on

      80 year old had a hip broken at the incident aswell. At that age it’s a death sentence. What went on there? Madness

    13. Embarrassed-Bug6390 on

      I do think it’s an important highlight to make, which is that I doubt he was restrained that forcefully for shop lifting, and more had to do with the alleged Assault causing serious harm (broken hip), on an 80 year old man while on his way out which could easily have been fatal.