This is the part of the AI boom that feels under discussed.
Everyone talks about models and chips, but the physical infrastructure behind them is starting to collide with power grids, water use, land use, and local politics.
AI doesn’t stay “virtual” once you need facilities at this scale.
r3d0c3ht on
Why does this feel as hoax to me, “We’re building a $4bn datacenter the ludicrous humongous datacenter to rule all datacenters but it will take us forever to build it, anyway, give ca$h now!”
xxtanisxx on
Can we vote out politicians that support subsidizing data centers? All these Utah voters need to vote for what benefits them.
Also, AI data centers destroys jobs, not create them. With their billions, couldn’t they just install solar on their roof? Hell, take only recycled water. Build better building to shield noise.
Even after all that, it destroys jobs… so what is the benefit for Americans again?
Haunterblademoi on
And this problem will continue to escalate as long as data centers exist.
JiminyDickish on
100% Kevin O’Leary just heard “data center” being thrown around by his other rich friends and decided he was going to make the biggest one. I doubt he even really understands what they’re for or what they do.
za72 on
oh yea… Utah, bastion of progress
mistertickertape on
Mr Wonderful is anything but. He’s a lecherous clown and the more people that know it, the better.
McLaughlin_Hurst312 on
tbh building a massive facility that requires millions of gallons of water just to keep the servers cool in the middle of a literal desert is peak tech industry logic.
Kevin_Torres753 on
it’s wild how local residents are constantly told to take shorter showers and let their lawns die, but big tech is allowed to drain the local water supply so they can train an ai to generate slightly worse search results. the priorities are completely backward.
LOST-MY_HEAD on
Does the Canadian Kevin know Utah is a desert? And like, running out of water?
Someone might want to look into the thousands of acers Mike Schultz, UT Speaker of the House, bought. Just happens to be in the same general vicinity of this facility.
JayRexx on
Kevin O’leary is a POS.
the_red_scimitar on
I predict what actually gets built will be a fraction – less than 50% – of what they’ve planned. And probably more like 10%-15%.
jrblockquote on
This smacks of the Wisconsin Foxconn Scott Walker debacle.
TheFashionColdWars on
Twice the size of Manhattan + will use more energy than the entire state. Fucking insanity
Generic_Commenter-X on
//So far, Utah officials have dismissed — and even derided — public outrage.//
When you vote for people who think government is the enemy. Who do you suppose they’ll think is the enemy once they’re in government?
No-Commercial-3658 on
The old saying “money is the root of all evils,” feels really relevant nowadays.
Chill-Dragonfly77 on
Governor Cox doesn’t care about what Utah citizens want. Republicans and Democrats both hate this new datacenter and have all been vocal about not wanting it. Cox doesn’t care.
geetarhiro32 on
Isn’t this the back story that played out in Ready Player One? Data Centers ruined the climate and forced everyone into makeshift cities and AI/Video games kept people online? Ignoring the major climate crisis and lining the pockets of corporations? This is real life now?
williamgman on
Their “elected” city council told their constituents that showed up in protest to pound sand. Bold move… but expected.
Go_Gators_4Ever on
The actual reason O’Leary wants the approvals and permits accelerated is because he wants to qualify for the Special immediate 100% Bonus Asset Depreciation that Congress is allowing. But, the project timelines must meet strict timelines.
Vegetable-King7626 on
Lets put something that needs to be cooled 24/7 in the middle of a desert
What could POSSIBLY go wrong
InsuranceImmediate25 on
Headline reads as if it exists already to trick you all into believing it HAS TO HAPPEN.
DreamingDjinn on
What the actual FUCK?!
> he equivalent of about 23 atom bombs worth of energy dumped into this local environment every single day.
We need to get these rich bastards under control. They are literally insane and will kill us all.
38B0DE on
Why don’t they build them in Alaska where it’s nice a cold?
buddhistbulgyo on
Fuck this guy. Narcissist sociopaths get away with too much bullshit like this. People in Utah and neighboring states need to fight this. Energy prices are going to spike and property values are going to tank if they don’t. He chose Utah because he felt they would be the biggest pushovers in the US.
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This is the part of the AI boom that feels under discussed.
Everyone talks about models and chips, but the physical infrastructure behind them is starting to collide with power grids, water use, land use, and local politics.
AI doesn’t stay “virtual” once you need facilities at this scale.
Why does this feel as hoax to me, “We’re building a $4bn datacenter the ludicrous humongous datacenter to rule all datacenters but it will take us forever to build it, anyway, give ca$h now!”
Can we vote out politicians that support subsidizing data centers? All these Utah voters need to vote for what benefits them.
Also, AI data centers destroys jobs, not create them. With their billions, couldn’t they just install solar on their roof? Hell, take only recycled water. Build better building to shield noise.
Even after all that, it destroys jobs… so what is the benefit for Americans again?
And this problem will continue to escalate as long as data centers exist.
100% Kevin O’Leary just heard “data center” being thrown around by his other rich friends and decided he was going to make the biggest one. I doubt he even really understands what they’re for or what they do.
oh yea… Utah, bastion of progress
Mr Wonderful is anything but. He’s a lecherous clown and the more people that know it, the better.
tbh building a massive facility that requires millions of gallons of water just to keep the servers cool in the middle of a literal desert is peak tech industry logic.
it’s wild how local residents are constantly told to take shorter showers and let their lawns die, but big tech is allowed to drain the local water supply so they can train an ai to generate slightly worse search results. the priorities are completely backward.
Does the Canadian Kevin know Utah is a desert? And like, running out of water?
These two young women who are organizing against O’Leary’s data center burned him in this Youtube video. https://youtu.be/JDy6UrHittQ?si=Sgb0FD7sCNN9jOI0
Someone might want to look into the thousands of acers Mike Schultz, UT Speaker of the House, bought. Just happens to be in the same general vicinity of this facility.
Kevin O’leary is a POS.
I predict what actually gets built will be a fraction – less than 50% – of what they’ve planned. And probably more like 10%-15%.
This smacks of the Wisconsin Foxconn Scott Walker debacle.
Twice the size of Manhattan + will use more energy than the entire state. Fucking insanity
//So far, Utah officials have dismissed — and even derided — public outrage.//
When you vote for people who think government is the enemy. Who do you suppose they’ll think is the enemy once they’re in government?
The old saying “money is the root of all evils,” feels really relevant nowadays.
Governor Cox doesn’t care about what Utah citizens want. Republicans and Democrats both hate this new datacenter and have all been vocal about not wanting it. Cox doesn’t care.
Isn’t this the back story that played out in Ready Player One? Data Centers ruined the climate and forced everyone into makeshift cities and AI/Video games kept people online? Ignoring the major climate crisis and lining the pockets of corporations? This is real life now?
Their “elected” city council told their constituents that showed up in protest to pound sand. Bold move… but expected.
The actual reason O’Leary wants the approvals and permits accelerated is because he wants to qualify for the Special immediate 100% Bonus Asset Depreciation that Congress is allowing. But, the project timelines must meet strict timelines.
Lets put something that needs to be cooled 24/7 in the middle of a desert
What could POSSIBLY go wrong
Headline reads as if it exists already to trick you all into believing it HAS TO HAPPEN.
What the actual FUCK?!
> he equivalent of about 23 atom bombs worth of energy dumped into this local environment every single day.
We need to get these rich bastards under control. They are literally insane and will kill us all.
Why don’t they build them in Alaska where it’s nice a cold?
Fuck this guy. Narcissist sociopaths get away with too much bullshit like this. People in Utah and neighboring states need to fight this. Energy prices are going to spike and property values are going to tank if they don’t. He chose Utah because he felt they would be the biggest pushovers in the US.