Repeating the same act and expecting a different result
AnxiousPacifist on
Ah, good old nepotism.
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DDoubleDDog on
She broke the law. She deserves to be arrested.
Bart_deblob on
Without reflecting on did she or did she not break the law, how is her being a relative of some politician relevant? I
SweatyLake6695 on
demanding special treatment because your brother is in a high gov position?
HengeWalk on
Overwhelming comments seem to lack the knowledge of what humanitarian aid is meant for in favour of obsessing over rules used to defend the boots they lick. Even doing cursary research on the definitionally accurate word for ethnic cleansing, & who is committing it is telling how far gone those comments are.
pitshands on
Her name and connection to a politician shouldn’t mean anything. A hell of a lot of countries use international waters as their own without any recourse
zurvivl on
Why do the Irish so badly want to be part of the Israel-Palestine conflict
CurvyCourgette on
You only have to look at Ben Gvirs tweet to see how poor the treatment is
Over-Willingness-933 on
There is a lot of Hypocrisy on display. None of them care about Tibet or Muslims in Eastern China. They don’t care about the ethnically cleansed Armenians from Azerbaijan. They care about Gaza so much more.
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podkayne3000 on
Israel’s government is stupid, and it shouldn’t detain the sister, but it’s also over the top for people to assume that a country that’s in a scary hot war will have a mellow approach to protesters coming in from other countries.
If Netanyahu’s son went to Tehran to march in a women’s rights match, the odds that Tehran would detain him seem high.
SteveMemeChamp on
GTFO here with your lies. The Global Sumud Flotilla carries approximately 300 tons of independently verified humanitarian cargo consitsting of CargoFood & Nutrition: Shelf-stable dry and tinned foods (such as rice, lentils, flour, and dates), high-calorie energy biscuits, and ready-to-use therapeutic food (RUTF) for severe malnutrition.Medical Equipment: Essential prescription medications, advanced wound-care materials, surgical equipment, and specialized medical items like prosthetic limbs for injured civilians.Infant Care: Powdered baby formula, infant food, and nutritional supplements for young children.Sanitation & Hygiene: Cleansing bars, dental hygiene products, soap, and sanitary towels.Construction & Infrastructure: Debris-clearing hand tools (shovels, wheelbarrows), building supplies (fasteners, nails, screws, tarps), and personal protection safety equipment like hard hats and dust masks.Education Materials: Notebooks, textbooks, pens, pencils, and basic student art station. Human resources they brought along: Healthcare Personnel: Over 1,000 volunteer doctors, nurses, and clinicians aiming to staff surviving field hospitals.Infrastructure Experts: Civil engineers and “eco-builders” equipped to assist local Palestinians in rebuilding destroyed homes, clean water pipelines, and schools.Legal and Accountability Staff: Independent war crimes investigators and international journalists tasked with documenting conditions on the ground.
Actual aid, moron.
Acceptable-Peak-6375 on
Anyone with a brain could have explained that trying to break a blockade, alone will get you into deep trouble.
Trying to smuggle people through a blockade, with connections to the violent terror militia, would be even worse. So it being called unacceptable, is about as brainless as actually attempting to do the smuggling.
Niceguy955 on
If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime
But beyond a sarcastic remark: at this point, everyone on these “flotillas” knows how it’s going to end. Trying to break a blockade in the middle of a war ends (at best) in arrest. If they’d tried to break the blockade at the strait of Hormuz for example, it might have ended differently.
nakulmodi141121 on
This is 4 overlapping games:
Humanitarian optics war
Domestic Irish politics
Israel deterrence signaling
Global media attention economy
Core event: Irish activists joined a Gaza flotilla. Israeli forces intercepted boats in/near international waters enforcing Gaza blockade. Among detainees: Dr. Margaret Connolly, sister of Irish President Catherine Connolly. Irish PM Micheál Martin called it “unacceptable.”
Main cynical realities:
Israel knew exactly who she was.
Activists knew interception probability was extremely high: ~80–95%.
Both sides wanted visibility.
Nobody involved expected this flotilla to materially feed Gaza at scale.
Symbolism > tonnage.
Why flotillas keep happening: A few boats carrying small aid volumes can generate:
millions of impressions
headlines in Europe
diplomatic pressure
emotional imagery
renewed Gaza discussion
Cost efficiency:
Aid value: maybe tens/hundreds of thousands USD
Media value: potentially tens of millions USD equivalent exposure
Why Israel intercepts anyway: If blockade enforcement becomes inconsistent:
deterrence weakens
future flotillas increase
state monopoly on access erodes
Hamas supply ambiguity argument weakens
So even tiny flotillas get treated as precedent battles.
Why Ireland is unusually vocal: Ireland has:
one of Europe’s strongest pro-Palestinian public sentiments
historical anti-colonial identity parallels
low military dependence on Israel
low geopolitical risk compared to Germany/US
Ireland gains domestic approval by condemning Israel. Material downside to Ireland: relatively low.
Why this became bigger news: Because of the presidential family link.
civilians in Gaza materially unchanged
international institutions look weak again
polarization intensifies further
Most cynical summary: The boats were carrying aid. But they were also carrying cameras, narratives, and political leverage.
Material_Angle2922 on
She’s perfectly aware that this will happen but went ahead anyway.
Insurance-Round on
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Nowayisthatway on
I am sorry dear PM, but are you perhaps suggesting that detaining a vessal and its occupiers who try and have tried to breach a blocade is unacceptable? I am sorry but that international law. I suggest going to the UN and making an appeal.
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Repeating the same act and expecting a different result
Ah, good old nepotism.
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She broke the law. She deserves to be arrested.
Without reflecting on did she or did she not break the law, how is her being a relative of some politician relevant? I
demanding special treatment because your brother is in a high gov position?
Overwhelming comments seem to lack the knowledge of what humanitarian aid is meant for in favour of obsessing over rules used to defend the boots they lick. Even doing cursary research on the definitionally accurate word for ethnic cleansing, & who is committing it is telling how far gone those comments are.
Her name and connection to a politician shouldn’t mean anything. A hell of a lot of countries use international waters as their own without any recourse
Why do the Irish so badly want to be part of the Israel-Palestine conflict
You only have to look at Ben Gvirs tweet to see how poor the treatment is
There is a lot of Hypocrisy on display. None of them care about Tibet or Muslims in Eastern China. They don’t care about the ethnically cleansed Armenians from Azerbaijan. They care about Gaza so much more.
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Israel’s government is stupid, and it shouldn’t detain the sister, but it’s also over the top for people to assume that a country that’s in a scary hot war will have a mellow approach to protesters coming in from other countries.
If Netanyahu’s son went to Tehran to march in a women’s rights match, the odds that Tehran would detain him seem high.
GTFO here with your lies. The Global Sumud Flotilla carries approximately 300 tons of independently verified humanitarian cargo consitsting of CargoFood & Nutrition: Shelf-stable dry and tinned foods (such as rice, lentils, flour, and dates), high-calorie energy biscuits, and ready-to-use therapeutic food (RUTF) for severe malnutrition.Medical Equipment: Essential prescription medications, advanced wound-care materials, surgical equipment, and specialized medical items like prosthetic limbs for injured civilians.Infant Care: Powdered baby formula, infant food, and nutritional supplements for young children.Sanitation & Hygiene: Cleansing bars, dental hygiene products, soap, and sanitary towels.Construction & Infrastructure: Debris-clearing hand tools (shovels, wheelbarrows), building supplies (fasteners, nails, screws, tarps), and personal protection safety equipment like hard hats and dust masks.Education Materials: Notebooks, textbooks, pens, pencils, and basic student art station. Human resources they brought along: Healthcare Personnel: Over 1,000 volunteer doctors, nurses, and clinicians aiming to staff surviving field hospitals.Infrastructure Experts: Civil engineers and “eco-builders” equipped to assist local Palestinians in rebuilding destroyed homes, clean water pipelines, and schools.Legal and Accountability Staff: Independent war crimes investigators and international journalists tasked with documenting conditions on the ground.
Actual aid, moron.
Anyone with a brain could have explained that trying to break a blockade, alone will get you into deep trouble.
Trying to smuggle people through a blockade, with connections to the violent terror militia, would be even worse. So it being called unacceptable, is about as brainless as actually attempting to do the smuggling.
If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime
But beyond a sarcastic remark: at this point, everyone on these “flotillas” knows how it’s going to end. Trying to break a blockade in the middle of a war ends (at best) in arrest. If they’d tried to break the blockade at the strait of Hormuz for example, it might have ended differently.
This is 4 overlapping games:
Humanitarian optics war
Domestic Irish politics
Israel deterrence signaling
Global media attention economy
Core event: Irish activists joined a Gaza flotilla. Israeli forces intercepted boats in/near international waters enforcing Gaza blockade. Among detainees: Dr. Margaret Connolly, sister of Irish President Catherine Connolly. Irish PM Micheál Martin called it “unacceptable.”
Main cynical realities:
Israel knew exactly who she was.
Activists knew interception probability was extremely high: ~80–95%.
Both sides wanted visibility.
Nobody involved expected this flotilla to materially feed Gaza at scale.
Symbolism > tonnage.
Why flotillas keep happening: A few boats carrying small aid volumes can generate:
millions of impressions
headlines in Europe
diplomatic pressure
emotional imagery
renewed Gaza discussion
Cost efficiency:
Aid value: maybe tens/hundreds of thousands USD
Media value: potentially tens of millions USD equivalent exposure
Why Israel intercepts anyway: If blockade enforcement becomes inconsistent:
deterrence weakens
future flotillas increase
state monopoly on access erodes
Hamas supply ambiguity argument weakens
Israel’s logic: “Allow one symbolic breach → encourages larger attempts later.”
So even tiny flotillas get treated as precedent battles.
Why Ireland is unusually vocal: Ireland has:
one of Europe’s strongest pro-Palestinian public sentiments
historical anti-colonial identity parallels
low military dependence on Israel
low geopolitical risk compared to Germany/US
Ireland gains domestic approval by condemning Israel. Material downside to Ireland: relatively low.
Why this became bigger news: Because of the presidential family link.
Without that:
maybe mid-level Europe news
24–48h cycle
With that:
prestige insult angle
“Israel detained president’s sister” headline
stronger emotional pull
easier virality
The law fight: Pro-flotilla side:
“international waters”
“illegal detention”
“piracy”
humanitarian mission
Israel side:
blockade enforcement allowed under naval warfare doctrine
blockade can be enforced beyond territorial waters
flotilla intended to breach blockade
This legal argument has existed for ~15+ years now. Same script repeats every flotilla.
Actual power reality: International law matters only when backed by:
US pressure
sanctions
naval force
trade consequences
Otherwise it becomes:
statements
condemnations
symbolic diplomacy
Most likely outcome:
detainees questioned
deported/released
Ireland protests
media cycle fades in days
blockade unchanged
another flotilla later
Strategic winners:
Activists: attention gained
Irish politicians: domestic signaling
Israel hardliners: showed enforcement consistency
Media: engagement spike
Strategic losers:
civilians in Gaza materially unchanged
international institutions look weak again
polarization intensifies further
Most cynical summary: The boats were carrying aid. But they were also carrying cameras, narratives, and political leverage.
She’s perfectly aware that this will happen but went ahead anyway.
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I am sorry dear PM, but are you perhaps suggesting that detaining a vessal and its occupiers who try and have tried to breach a blocade is unacceptable? I am sorry but that international law. I suggest going to the UN and making an appeal.