These are not wonder pills. It’s clear from the piece she is not planning on changing her lifestyle or taking any measures towards food and exercise.
ByteSizedGenius on
>“I hate it. I can’t stop eating even though I know it’s killing me. It’s an addiction. I can’t stop it, so why won’t the NHS fund the GLP1/Mounjaro?
What is she going to do after she stops the injections? It’s not a permanent solution unless you change your diet and lifestyle.
ShyBiSaiyan on
Unfortunately she probably needs therapy to help with the eating addiction, but therapy in this country is quite expensive and good luck getting therapy through the NHS.
FrancescasGrove on
Surely no one can have this little self awareness or accountability?!
You’re “trapped” because of sustained bad eating habits over many years
PraiseTheSun1997 on
Comments about as expected from the armchair health professionals
IlluminatedCookie on
She probably doesn’t. There’s a checklist to qualify for nhs of it and you need to hit all the points. Being overweight is just one. Besides that if you can’t stop eating it likely won’t do her any good. She has to want to lose the weight too or she’ll just eat through it and cost the nhs money.
Tonk666 on
From a purely financial point. I’m buying Mounjaro myself and am currently better off because the treatment is more than offset by the reduction in food costs.
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No_Atmosphere8146 on
So she can’t afford £200/month for the jab privately, but she can afford enough food to eat constantly? Come on Abigail, do the maths. You get the jab and pay for it with the hundreds of pounds you’re saving on Monster Munch.
tombola345 on
Heh. she calls LBC all the time, cool to put a face to a name.
Organic_Cat_Poo on
NHS should go out and mounjaro people with blow darts. Denying access is crazy.
pintofendlesssummer on
How can she afford to feed herself to get to that size, she obviously cannot work so is the benefit system funding her food bill. Meanwhile everyone else is struggling with food costs and here we have some 40 stone woman eating herself to death.
ButterscotchBest8866 on
She says she’s on PIP so that extra £194 a week tax free on top of her Universal Credit could easily afford the jabs from med express
KoffieCreamer on
Everyone saying she just needs to ‘stop eating’ is no different than telling a depressed person to start smiling.
These issues are behaviors learned over a potential lifetime, there is so many complex issues that need solving before she can change her lifestyle.
Ironically the jabs could kick start those lifestyle changes, although unlikely.
TraditionalBread_ on
Damn I didn’t know Reddit was just full of endocrine, hormonal and gastro specialists on the United Kingdom thread. Cause clearly with everyone giving their opinion on what this person should do, they MUST have X-ray vision cause so many of them are determined that she doesn’t have any issues, she just needs to eat less! Wow, what a talent it must be to be able to dismiss legitimate medical diagnosis just by looking at someone’s outer body! Have any of you considered talking to Guinness book of records about your god given talents? Because I sure as fuck have never heard of a doctor being able to simply tell what’s up with someone just by looking at them.
Edit to add: if you genuinely think your anecdotal evidence is more worthwhile than a medical degree, please throw your phone in the ocean. You’re clearly rotting from the inside out, and need help.
Groovy66 on
I was about 3 stone overweight and tried Mounjaro privately for a few months.
I lost about 2 stone in total and have been maintaining the current weight since January. I’m still overweight but not dreadfully so anymore.
Mounjaro is weird in that it takes away the urge/desire to eat and seems to inhibit the pleasure you get from eating which I guess is like a dopamine hit or similar.
Food stopped being important and I didn’t fancy it (or booze unexpectedly) so just ate (and drank) less.
I would expect it to affect this person in the same way so I’m surprised they didn’t give it go for a few months to see what happens.
Significant-Branch22 on
I think it would make sense to change the eligibility criteria so that if you’re above a certain very high bmi threshold you are eligible for these even without meeting any other criteria. Anyone weighing 40 stone should be able to access these drugs
bigkahuna1uk on
Usually if you have a high BMI but have been refused those weight loss jabs, it’s because there’s another comorbidity that would make your health even more deleterious. It’s not due to her being an overweight. For instance weight loss jabs can cause eye strokes in some patients. People with eye problems are often prohibited from taking such medications.
Late-Development-666 on
She needs some psychiatric help to address the desire to eat so much, because the jabs won’t be around forever.
I wish her well, she clearly wants to make a change, and that’s often the biggest hurdle.
Coin-Biter on
I suppose I shouldn’t be shocked by some of the comments, but I am.
40 stone is a very serious condition. These drugs are proven to be effective.
DarkLordMuffins on
So I’ve been on mounjaro for just over a year now, I was prescribed it for blood sugar (type 2) and I’ve lost 10 stone. Like many of the comments said, I’ve not just relied on the jab to do all the work, you have to work with it! It reduced my appetite significantly and got rid of food noise, with that help I changed my diet and worked on myself in a therapeutic capacity. It’s not a miracle jab, you have to work with it.
CappriGirl on
I think another question to ask ourselves is, would we be saying this about a person with anorexia, for example? An alcoholic?
Getting that fat is as much a mental health problem as anything. She needs rehab or therapy and weight loss drugs just like we would treat drug addicts, alcoholics and any other eating disorder.
FigureSubstantial970 on
All the people in the comments not understanding what an addiction is…
Future_You_2800 on
How does she afford the food? Ive been losing weight the past 2 months as ive needed to save and i was only 9 stone when i started. Halved my food bill and yes life is miserable. Some part of me thinks im possibly funding this lass to eat more in a week than I will in a month. Our country is fucked isnt it?
Calelith on
Reading the comments in this post makes me understand so much about the average brits intelligence levels tbh.
She has an addiction to food, she is asking for help and people in these comments are coming out with some of the stupidest replies I’ve seen in a while.
Same people would tell a serverly depressed person to go for a walk because they felt sad once and a walk cheered them up.
It would and will cost the NHS and the tax payers less in the long run to give her the jabs than it will cost for any hospital treatment she needs and the chances of her getting diabetes is incredibly higher which would then be a life long issue the NHS would have to treat and stupidly enough if she does develop diabetes she would then be given the jabs for that (the jabs main use is in the treatment of diabetes, the weight loss and appetite suppression is a happy side effect).
Hell non of this would even be an issue if the rich and wealthy didn’t push the jabs to young women as a cure for beauty issues.
ThatIestyn on
This comment section is a hell scape for misinformation.
Regardless of your opinion on the drug and whether or not shes on it for life, these drugs will save the nhs millions and reduce the amount of intervention required for people with life long weight related health issues. The barrier for entry should be made much easier.
The cost of the drug vs several heart, stomach, diabetic, liver related treatment is pennies. If you have any connection to any medical professionals they are telling you this drug is the miracle drug.
And the diet and exercise argument is so insane, if just telling someone that worked then there would be no fat people.
Should they care more? Yes absolutely. Do they? No.
From a purely selfish financial position, we should give them the drugs.
mattress_117 on
People in here do not understand that is an addiction, the jabs do work and yes you need to change your lifestyle and whole psychology towards food but it’s a start. It’s not as easy as put the fork down, it’s like telling an alcoholic to just stop drinking or a smoker to just stop smoking. It is an illness.
Comfortable-Net9450 on
Annual cost of the maximum dose of Wegovy is around £2500 privately, probably cheaper for the NHS.
Typical cost of a hospital stay, per day, for a single patient in the UK is around £500. That’s before surgery, specialist appointments, accessibility tools, are accounted for.
Obesity causes diabetes, joint pain, slipped discs, heart problems, liver disease and kidney disease. If you prevent one hospital trip a year, you’ve pretty much paid for the Wegovy already.
And that’s before you even account for joblessness, the lady in this article is on PIP due to her weight, she’s unable to work due to her size.
Most commenters here clearly hate fat people, which is a depressingly common position, but logically, giving people Wegovy on the NHS is probably the easiest way to drive down costs.
Cptcongcong on
>Patients are only eligible for Mounjaro on the NHS if they have a BMI of over 40 – which is less than half of Abigail’s BMI – and have at least four of the following conditions: type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease, obstructive sleep apnoea, abnormal blood fats.
This seems backwards to me. If somehow you’re fat enough to have a BMI of over 40 but not have four of those conditions, you’ll develop the conditions sooner or later. Surely we should be prescribing GLP-1 drugs to prevent those conditions from arising, and hence needing to treat for those as well???
hershyslayer on
I wonder how much she cost the NHS in prescription and treatments. If the cost of a weight loss jab reduces the cost of the above wouldn’t it be a net positive?
PSBFAN1991 on
I was told this by my local GP:
In the first phase of the roll-out of weight management medications (between now and April 2026), people with a BMI of 40or above (or 37.5 for people from South Asian, Chinese, other Asian, Middle Eastern, Black African or African-Caribbean ethnic backgrounds) , and with four out of the following diagnosed health conditions will be prioritised:
– Type 2 diabetes
– High blood pressure
– Heart diseases
– Obstructive sleep apnoea
– Abnormal blood fats
keanehoodies on
I’ve been meal prepping and going to the gym fairly consistently for about 10 years. At one point, with the help of a personal trainer, I was trim and muscular. Despite that, I’ve been obese for most of my life.
Over the years I’ve developed a strong understanding of nutrition, exercise, calorie control, and healthy habits. That knowledge is probably the reason I’ve been able to repeatedly “get back on the horse” after setbacks. But what people often fail to understand is that knowledge alone does not make obesity easy to manage. Major emotional setbacks, like losing my job, caused the systems and routines I had built to collapse, and my weight eventually climbed to 145kg, despite the fact that a healthy weight for me is probably somewhere around 110–115kg. I’m now back down to 135kg and continuing to lose weight progressively because I know how to structure my diet and exercise properly. But even with years of experience and knowledge, maintaining healthy eating habits still requires an enormous amount of emotional and mental energy.
That is the part people who have never experienced severe obesity often fail to understand. Weight loss is frequently framed as a series of isolated decisions. People say things like, “choose this instead of that when eating out,” as though healthy eating is simply a matter of making better choices throughout the day. But for many people, especially those with severe obesity, it is not experienced as a few occasional temptations. It is a constant craving that exists all day, every day. When your body is constantly producing hormonal signals that drive hunger and cravings, resisting them mentally is possible, but it is exhausting. People who eat well past fullness, comfort, or satiety are often portrayed as lacking discipline or self-control, but that framing ignores the physiological reality of what is happening. Their bodies are actively pushing them toward food constantly. And if someone with years of experience managing diet and exercise still finds that battle mentally draining, it is easy to understand how overwhelming it must be for someone without that knowledge or support structure.
That is why GLP-1 medications are so important. These drugs help regulate the hormonal signals that drive excessive hunger and constant food cravings. They do not magically teach nutrition or create healthy habits overnight, but they can bring people back to a baseline where learning those habits becomes psychologically manageable. People often act as though medication is somehow “avoiding the real work,” but that misunderstands the role these treatments play. If someone’s house is on fire, you do not begin by lecturing them about fire safety before helping put the fire out.
For someone like the woman in this article, obesity has taken over her life to such an extent that she is crying out for help. She is asking for access to medication that could help her regain some degree of normality and control over her life. We should not be casually prescribing these drugs to people who simply want to lose a small amount of weight for aesthetic reasons. But when someone is so overweight that standing is difficult and they feel trapped inside their own home, access to medical treatment should not be controversial. The article also mentions that she does not want surgery, and nor should she have to. She should not be forced into permanent surgical alterations to her body when effective medical alternatives already exist.
At the same time, she should absolutely receive mental health and psychological support to help address the emotional issues contributing to her reliance on food for comfort. Obesity can be both psychological and physiological at the same time, and treating one aspect does not invalidate the other. In fact, addressing emotional overeating is likely to become significantly easier once her body is no longer constantly screaming at her for food at a biological level.
unablenarcissist on
Why are we as tax payers expected to pay for fat people to lose weight? You don’t just become 40 stone over night, you become 40 stone from abusing your body. We are expected to pay for these people wether it’s through the NHS, or disability allowance or what ever it is she is getting, meanwhile I got plaster in my eye and got cement burns from working, and had to wait 18 hours at the hospital…..
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These are not wonder pills. It’s clear from the piece she is not planning on changing her lifestyle or taking any measures towards food and exercise.
>“I hate it. I can’t stop eating even though I know it’s killing me. It’s an addiction. I can’t stop it, so why won’t the NHS fund the GLP1/Mounjaro?
What is she going to do after she stops the injections? It’s not a permanent solution unless you change your diet and lifestyle.
Unfortunately she probably needs therapy to help with the eating addiction, but therapy in this country is quite expensive and good luck getting therapy through the NHS.
Surely no one can have this little self awareness or accountability?!
You’re “trapped” because of sustained bad eating habits over many years
Comments about as expected from the armchair health professionals
She probably doesn’t. There’s a checklist to qualify for nhs of it and you need to hit all the points. Being overweight is just one. Besides that if you can’t stop eating it likely won’t do her any good. She has to want to lose the weight too or she’ll just eat through it and cost the nhs money.
From a purely financial point. I’m buying Mounjaro myself and am currently better off because the treatment is more than offset by the reduction in food costs.
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So she can’t afford £200/month for the jab privately, but she can afford enough food to eat constantly? Come on Abigail, do the maths. You get the jab and pay for it with the hundreds of pounds you’re saving on Monster Munch.
Heh. she calls LBC all the time, cool to put a face to a name.
NHS should go out and mounjaro people with blow darts. Denying access is crazy.
How can she afford to feed herself to get to that size, she obviously cannot work so is the benefit system funding her food bill. Meanwhile everyone else is struggling with food costs and here we have some 40 stone woman eating herself to death.
She says she’s on PIP so that extra £194 a week tax free on top of her Universal Credit could easily afford the jabs from med express
Everyone saying she just needs to ‘stop eating’ is no different than telling a depressed person to start smiling.
These issues are behaviors learned over a potential lifetime, there is so many complex issues that need solving before she can change her lifestyle.
Ironically the jabs could kick start those lifestyle changes, although unlikely.
Damn I didn’t know Reddit was just full of endocrine, hormonal and gastro specialists on the United Kingdom thread. Cause clearly with everyone giving their opinion on what this person should do, they MUST have X-ray vision cause so many of them are determined that she doesn’t have any issues, she just needs to eat less! Wow, what a talent it must be to be able to dismiss legitimate medical diagnosis just by looking at someone’s outer body! Have any of you considered talking to Guinness book of records about your god given talents? Because I sure as fuck have never heard of a doctor being able to simply tell what’s up with someone just by looking at them.
Edit to add: if you genuinely think your anecdotal evidence is more worthwhile than a medical degree, please throw your phone in the ocean. You’re clearly rotting from the inside out, and need help.
I was about 3 stone overweight and tried Mounjaro privately for a few months.
I lost about 2 stone in total and have been maintaining the current weight since January. I’m still overweight but not dreadfully so anymore.
Mounjaro is weird in that it takes away the urge/desire to eat and seems to inhibit the pleasure you get from eating which I guess is like a dopamine hit or similar.
Food stopped being important and I didn’t fancy it (or booze unexpectedly) so just ate (and drank) less.
I would expect it to affect this person in the same way so I’m surprised they didn’t give it go for a few months to see what happens.
I think it would make sense to change the eligibility criteria so that if you’re above a certain very high bmi threshold you are eligible for these even without meeting any other criteria. Anyone weighing 40 stone should be able to access these drugs
Usually if you have a high BMI but have been refused those weight loss jabs, it’s because there’s another comorbidity that would make your health even more deleterious. It’s not due to her being an overweight. For instance weight loss jabs can cause eye strokes in some patients. People with eye problems are often prohibited from taking such medications.
She needs some psychiatric help to address the desire to eat so much, because the jabs won’t be around forever.
I wish her well, she clearly wants to make a change, and that’s often the biggest hurdle.
I suppose I shouldn’t be shocked by some of the comments, but I am.
40 stone is a very serious condition. These drugs are proven to be effective.
So I’ve been on mounjaro for just over a year now, I was prescribed it for blood sugar (type 2) and I’ve lost 10 stone. Like many of the comments said, I’ve not just relied on the jab to do all the work, you have to work with it! It reduced my appetite significantly and got rid of food noise, with that help I changed my diet and worked on myself in a therapeutic capacity. It’s not a miracle jab, you have to work with it.
I think another question to ask ourselves is, would we be saying this about a person with anorexia, for example? An alcoholic?
Getting that fat is as much a mental health problem as anything. She needs rehab or therapy and weight loss drugs just like we would treat drug addicts, alcoholics and any other eating disorder.
All the people in the comments not understanding what an addiction is…
How does she afford the food? Ive been losing weight the past 2 months as ive needed to save and i was only 9 stone when i started. Halved my food bill and yes life is miserable. Some part of me thinks im possibly funding this lass to eat more in a week than I will in a month. Our country is fucked isnt it?
Reading the comments in this post makes me understand so much about the average brits intelligence levels tbh.
She has an addiction to food, she is asking for help and people in these comments are coming out with some of the stupidest replies I’ve seen in a while.
Same people would tell a serverly depressed person to go for a walk because they felt sad once and a walk cheered them up.
It would and will cost the NHS and the tax payers less in the long run to give her the jabs than it will cost for any hospital treatment she needs and the chances of her getting diabetes is incredibly higher which would then be a life long issue the NHS would have to treat and stupidly enough if she does develop diabetes she would then be given the jabs for that (the jabs main use is in the treatment of diabetes, the weight loss and appetite suppression is a happy side effect).
Hell non of this would even be an issue if the rich and wealthy didn’t push the jabs to young women as a cure for beauty issues.
This comment section is a hell scape for misinformation.
Regardless of your opinion on the drug and whether or not shes on it for life, these drugs will save the nhs millions and reduce the amount of intervention required for people with life long weight related health issues. The barrier for entry should be made much easier.
The cost of the drug vs several heart, stomach, diabetic, liver related treatment is pennies. If you have any connection to any medical professionals they are telling you this drug is the miracle drug.
And the diet and exercise argument is so insane, if just telling someone that worked then there would be no fat people.
Should they care more? Yes absolutely. Do they? No.
From a purely selfish financial position, we should give them the drugs.
People in here do not understand that is an addiction, the jabs do work and yes you need to change your lifestyle and whole psychology towards food but it’s a start. It’s not as easy as put the fork down, it’s like telling an alcoholic to just stop drinking or a smoker to just stop smoking. It is an illness.
Annual cost of the maximum dose of Wegovy is around £2500 privately, probably cheaper for the NHS.
Typical cost of a hospital stay, per day, for a single patient in the UK is around £500. That’s before surgery, specialist appointments, accessibility tools, are accounted for.
Obesity causes diabetes, joint pain, slipped discs, heart problems, liver disease and kidney disease. If you prevent one hospital trip a year, you’ve pretty much paid for the Wegovy already.
And that’s before you even account for joblessness, the lady in this article is on PIP due to her weight, she’s unable to work due to her size.
Most commenters here clearly hate fat people, which is a depressingly common position, but logically, giving people Wegovy on the NHS is probably the easiest way to drive down costs.
>Patients are only eligible for Mounjaro on the NHS if they have a BMI of over 40 – which is less than half of Abigail’s BMI – and have at least four of the following conditions: type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease, obstructive sleep apnoea, abnormal blood fats.
This seems backwards to me. If somehow you’re fat enough to have a BMI of over 40 but not have four of those conditions, you’ll develop the conditions sooner or later. Surely we should be prescribing GLP-1 drugs to prevent those conditions from arising, and hence needing to treat for those as well???
I wonder how much she cost the NHS in prescription and treatments. If the cost of a weight loss jab reduces the cost of the above wouldn’t it be a net positive?
I was told this by my local GP:
In the first phase of the roll-out of weight management medications (between now and April 2026), people with a BMI of 40or above (or 37.5 for people from South Asian, Chinese, other Asian, Middle Eastern, Black African or African-Caribbean ethnic backgrounds) , and with four out of the following diagnosed health conditions will be prioritised:
– Type 2 diabetes
– High blood pressure
– Heart diseases
– Obstructive sleep apnoea
– Abnormal blood fats
I’ve been meal prepping and going to the gym fairly consistently for about 10 years. At one point, with the help of a personal trainer, I was trim and muscular. Despite that, I’ve been obese for most of my life.
Over the years I’ve developed a strong understanding of nutrition, exercise, calorie control, and healthy habits. That knowledge is probably the reason I’ve been able to repeatedly “get back on the horse” after setbacks. But what people often fail to understand is that knowledge alone does not make obesity easy to manage. Major emotional setbacks, like losing my job, caused the systems and routines I had built to collapse, and my weight eventually climbed to 145kg, despite the fact that a healthy weight for me is probably somewhere around 110–115kg. I’m now back down to 135kg and continuing to lose weight progressively because I know how to structure my diet and exercise properly. But even with years of experience and knowledge, maintaining healthy eating habits still requires an enormous amount of emotional and mental energy.
That is the part people who have never experienced severe obesity often fail to understand. Weight loss is frequently framed as a series of isolated decisions. People say things like, “choose this instead of that when eating out,” as though healthy eating is simply a matter of making better choices throughout the day. But for many people, especially those with severe obesity, it is not experienced as a few occasional temptations. It is a constant craving that exists all day, every day. When your body is constantly producing hormonal signals that drive hunger and cravings, resisting them mentally is possible, but it is exhausting. People who eat well past fullness, comfort, or satiety are often portrayed as lacking discipline or self-control, but that framing ignores the physiological reality of what is happening. Their bodies are actively pushing them toward food constantly. And if someone with years of experience managing diet and exercise still finds that battle mentally draining, it is easy to understand how overwhelming it must be for someone without that knowledge or support structure.
That is why GLP-1 medications are so important. These drugs help regulate the hormonal signals that drive excessive hunger and constant food cravings. They do not magically teach nutrition or create healthy habits overnight, but they can bring people back to a baseline where learning those habits becomes psychologically manageable. People often act as though medication is somehow “avoiding the real work,” but that misunderstands the role these treatments play. If someone’s house is on fire, you do not begin by lecturing them about fire safety before helping put the fire out.
For someone like the woman in this article, obesity has taken over her life to such an extent that she is crying out for help. She is asking for access to medication that could help her regain some degree of normality and control over her life. We should not be casually prescribing these drugs to people who simply want to lose a small amount of weight for aesthetic reasons. But when someone is so overweight that standing is difficult and they feel trapped inside their own home, access to medical treatment should not be controversial. The article also mentions that she does not want surgery, and nor should she have to. She should not be forced into permanent surgical alterations to her body when effective medical alternatives already exist.
At the same time, she should absolutely receive mental health and psychological support to help address the emotional issues contributing to her reliance on food for comfort. Obesity can be both psychological and physiological at the same time, and treating one aspect does not invalidate the other. In fact, addressing emotional overeating is likely to become significantly easier once her body is no longer constantly screaming at her for food at a biological level.
Why are we as tax payers expected to pay for fat people to lose weight? You don’t just become 40 stone over night, you become 40 stone from abusing your body. We are expected to pay for these people wether it’s through the NHS, or disability allowance or what ever it is she is getting, meanwhile I got plaster in my eye and got cement burns from working, and had to wait 18 hours at the hospital…..