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    1. homesforsandiego on

      Refusing to shine a light on facts does not help the Democratic Party.

    2. OP_Skis_In_Jeans on

      > “For most voters, if you look at what was their top issue, it’s the economy — of course,” Romman said.

      From the article itself.

      People stayed home in 2024 because Dems were calling the economy “great” based on stock market numbers when the reality on the ground for many voters was anything but great. They also campaigned on “hope and joy” and forced Walz to stop attacking while Republicans were campaigning on the economy and going for broke with attacks. And then there’s Biden’s failure to drop out of the race until the absolute last second, and the stupid decision to let him participate in debates with Trump.

      Gaza and Israel aren’t even in the top 10 reasons why Dems lost. Most voters were concerned about the economy and domestic issues in 2024, not foreign policy.

    3. Alright, so here’s what I’m wondering. The DNC was clearly ashamed of this report. They knew it was bad, and poorly written, and said nothing of value. That’s why they tried to avoid releasing it.

      So if they knew all of that… why didn’t they commission a better report? To me, there’s only two logical options: they’re too lazy to do it, or they already know what their issues are and don’t want to put them on paper for everyone to read.

    4. marzgamingmaster on

      They so badly want the narritive to be “the problem was supporting trans people too much (read: at all)” and/or “the issue was that we were too progressive!” The solution to both being “We have to lean in even further right! To get those centrist votes!” The idea that leaning further right was the cause of most of their problems *is not allowed to be true*, can’t even be considered, because their billionaire donors *demand* that the solution to any issue that happened during any election magically become “be more conservative, allow the rich to hoard more wealth.”

    5. MetalEnthusiast83 on

      Turns out voters care more about domestic policies than a war on the other side of the planet.

    6. charcoalist on

      After the election, I read some articles about why some people voted for trump. The most preposterous reasoning I came across was a guy who said, “I think trump is despicable, but I don’t like what’s happening in Gaza.”

      Separately, another article was written by a reporter who visited multiple election night after-parties celebrating trump’s victory. The common theme of the trump supporters that he interviewed was hate. They were celebrating the freedom to hate others out in the open.

    7. FiftyLoudCats on

      The narrative that Democrats lost because they weren’t pro-Palestine / anti-Israel is largely inflated on Reddit.

      There are a ton of power mods that tend to push this narrative very hard on seemingly non-political subs.

      https://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/s/5QmrNyRNut

      In fairness Reddit did an analysis based on these accusations, although it seemed to be more focused on whether they are pushing terrorist agendas. They concluded they aren’t supporting terrorism, but whether they are using their mod power to push agendas on seemingly non-political subs… you can form your own opinion:

      https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditSafety/s/oUKbvqMpNF

    8. steve_dallasesq on

      While definitely incomplete the Report also makes good points. Heavy focus on suburbs (educated whites) came at the expense of urban and rural.

      The Dems used to be the party of the working class. The Dem platform is far better for the working class. But Dems don’t get those votes.

      James Carville’s message from 92 remains – It’s the Economy Stupid.

    9. CheesyPotatoSack on

      Everyday people in the US can’t afford their rent and food at the same time. These are our issues not Israel and Gaza. We have children to try to feed here

    10. Democrats didn’t lose because we didn’t go hard enough on Israel.

      We lost because nobody had either the guts or skills to convince Biden not to run again. The ticket was sunk the moment during the debate when it became clear Biden didn’t have a clue where he was or what he was doing.

      That was the main problem. It is truly that simple. Issues of ineffective communication, poor local organizing, and the other logistical fuckuos also matter.

    11. bevendelamorte on

      Kinda feels like all this drama about the autopsy is the best indicator of the party’s current situation, regardless of the actual legitimacy or contents.

    12. Everyone going conspiracy, but DNC Martin was right.

      He said they didn’t release because it’s not a finished product, and it wasn’t. It was a trash rough draft with no sources and “pending” in some sections.

    13. South-Attorney-5209 on

      Their biggest take away was that Biden didnt support Kamala well enough, and let her differentiate herself. Which is the lame DC takeaway. Realistically maybe would have helped on the margins, if that.

      What I thought was by far the most interesting is this tidbit from NYT.

      “A thread that appears throughout the draft report places blame on a broader Democratic Party infrastructure that is seasonal while conservative organizations like Turning Point USA have a permanent presence.”

      This is so true it is painful. Republicans play culture wars all day every day. They spend money all the time. Democrats stack it up and spend in a month or two.

      Democrats drive a quick message, but republicans drive a daily culture.

      There exists a vacuum from Dem leadership FOR MONTHS, then suddenly they are everywhere. That is not how you build followers, thats how you get people to make a last minute decision.

    14. GabrielXiao on

      wondering how does the Gaza single issue voter finding the current situation

    15. They lost because of a mix of racism and sexism and a blazé attitude toward lingering inflation that voters are simply too undereductated to understand was a world wide post-covid phenomenon that Biden/Harris couldn’t have stopped though better pandemic management by Trump 2020 might have limited.

      But they can’t say that, which makes am autopsy on why they lost pretty hard to compile.

    16. SevereSignificance81 on

      Because the people who voted for trump over Kamala on Gaza are actually so dumb we shouldn’t pay them any mind.

      Why would it be a reason Dems lost 2024?

    17. thalassicus on

      Running against the modern GQP which is both corrupt and unconstitutional should be a slam dunk. It’s insane how far the DNC has drifted from the working class when that’s how you get a lot of MAGA on your side. The DNC needs to be on offense making the claim on how we will enact real change for the rest of us not in the top 1%

      We should throw down the gauntlet:

      Federal Budget – an 8 year plan to reduce the deficit with the goal of hitting an economic surplus.

      Taxes – a national wealth tax that can’t be circumvented aimed directly at the top 1%.

      Gas Prices – During a global crisis (including our current Trump inflicted crisis), US Oil companies must sell domestically at a cost plus model and excess capacity can be sold on the global market at current rates.

      Credit Cards – a cap at 14.9% so that people in debt have an opportunity to get out from under.

      Health Care – an 8 year plan to get to full universal healthcare just like every other first world country. Show people that they will spend less to get more, be protected from going bankrupt from medical conditions, and destroy the narrative that quality of care will decline.

      Farmers – empower farmers as a Co-op to break the oligopolies that control their supply chain as well as their equipment (right to repair, BS patented crop abuse, etc) so that farmers can make a decent wage and financially survive off years. Show how Trump’s insane international policies have devastated farmers. Bonus, instead of that farming wealth being leached out to the corporate overlords in big cities, Farmers are spending that money in their local communities.

      Military – No new wars and reverse the GOP denials of soldier’s health care claims. No soldier injured or exposed to toxic materials while serving our country should bear the costs of their own healthcare from the damage they received while serving. Show how insane this SecDef has been where his pals are betting on attack dates on poly market, tipping off the Iranians and putting troops in actual increased danger. Promotions and demotions should only happen through normal chain of command without Executive Branch retaliatory actions without cause or evidence.

      Social Issues – We can support LGBTQ/Trans equality without allowing the GOP to define it as our top priority.

      Israel – we want the Israeli people safe, but the current Government has committed severe war crimes. Everything about this relationship must be reexamined.

      Epstein – A commitment to full release and to prosecute ANY/EVERYONE who committed a crime INCLUDING those in the current administration who covered it up to protect the president.

      Corruption Accountability – Anyone who has illegally made money or gotten away with breaking the law during this administration because accountability has been thrown out the window will be investigated by a special counsel and prosecuted vigorously.

    18. StanVanGhandi on

      If you look at the data and post voting polls/questionnaires they didn’t lose because of Gaza. Foreign policy/wars was barely a top 10 issue.

      I know on reddit Gaza is a top 3 issue to a lot of you but I don’t think that is true at all for the majority of Americans when it came to their voting choices.

    19. pericles123 on

      If someone honestly didn’t vote on the Democratic ticket because of their stance on Gaza, thinking that Trump’s ‘s influence on that region would be somehow better then they’re a gigantic idiot

    20. So the DNC lost because of Israel/Palestine… but yet the GOP won and is even worse for the issue. Make it make sense.

    21. Amazing-Artichoke330 on

      OK. The national Democratic Party sucks. But, it is still better than the Trump Gang.

    22. In the real world of jobs, paychecks and inflation, no-one cares about Israel or Palestine, if you do then you’re so privileged you cannot even appreciate it

    23. GoodGoodGoody on

      Ahh the Palestinian-American boycotters

      – “Listen to us or you’ll lose! Harris and Trump are exactly the same!”

      – Trump wins, destroys what’s left of Gaza, gets nominated for Peace Prize by Israeli PM, “Hey, we had nothing to do with it, Palestinian-Americans are a tiny part of the population”

      And boy are those boycotters quiet now.

    24. It’s also largely irrelevant. The next Democrat president will be running against the DNC and its consultant class, and it’s really pretty obvious that organization is going to choke itself and die. Good. Let’s replace it with something much better.

    25. No-Tackle-6112 on

      Can’t be a surprise to anyone. Gaza wasn’t a top 10 issue on any exit or pre election poll. It was always as overblown issue to voters.

    26. Or Biden’s age or Democrats spending the previous year talking seriously about why it was a bad idea to have an eighty year old running for re-election.

      I’ve skimmed the document. If this were wheel of Swiss cheese it would be more holes than cheese.

    27. Generation_Why_Not on

      A loud lunatic fringe hijacking a minority of the party does not make them a strategic value to the platform. Terrorist support does not poll highly
      With moderate Americans. It is insufferable how desperate many democrats are to lose to fascists

    28. They probably had some intern scribble some crap together at the last minute. Gave them a list of things to include and exclude, then rubber stamped it.

      I can’t believe they’re the better party but here we are…

    29. BeGoodtoOthersPlease on

      Of course it didn’t mention the motherland. It was partly written by AIPAC.

    30. defnotajournalist on

      I look at the Democratic Party and see a decade of self-inflicted wounds: the concerted push to sideline an ascendant Sanders in 2016, the subsequent loss to Trump, the Biden consolidation, and now the Harris campaign collapse. And I contrast all of it against the only things that have actually moved people in numbers: DSA-aligned policy, genuine anti-billionaire populism, real material progress backed by action. Mamdani. AOC. Katie Wilson…. Why can’t they get it?

    31. Hairy-Rip-5284 on

      How much of an uphill battle would it be to form a proper left leaning party completely outside of the DNC?