Is this a genuinly held belief or a ploy to get elected by the left wing membership and then, you know, go back on it?
B0797S458W on
He’s literally saying anything at this point. Expect further U-turns in the morning.
Efficient_Morning_11 on
The only possible reform of any significance would be to go republic, and that is not going to happen in the lifetimes of anyone here.
aleopardstail on
“party that faces wipe out at next election in favour of changing the rules”
Visa5e on
‘Andy Burnham to do anything that anyone with a vote wants him to do once he becomes PM’
kingslayyer on
he also wants to keep Shabana Mahmoods reforms
good luck fighting the left of your party with those. they’ll ask for your head too just like they did with Starmer
BlueMoonCityzen on
How about a reform that makes the Labour Party pay for these ridiculous by-elections
(As someone expecting to vote for labour myself)
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outlawsmokeyscottish on
King Charles should have brought in the electoral reform with his last speech. Got all these politicians on the noose. And said it was a fine experiment but it’s clearly failed. Democracy works fine when you do it like the Greeks done a jury service. When your called you must serve. But folk literally go to uni to be a career politician never been in the real world.
spazbarracuda on
I agree with electoral reform but a huge change like that that would have to be put in a Manifesto at a GE
Happy-Ad8755 on
They all say this, then it never happens. It’s just bluster
Mr_XcX on
Electoral reform needed but there is no way Labour will ever agree to this.
Tories as example got over 100+ seats past election before being rock bottom. Same would be said for Labour.
strongfavourite on
who wouldn’t be in favour of PR? does the common person really want/benefit from FPTP?
AvatarIII on
That’s what they all say until they win an election under the FPTP system.
doobiedave on
I think we also need to reform the upper house and have an assembly like the US Senate where each region gets one or two representatives, perhaps based on administrative counties or their equivalent in Scotland. There’s far too much money and power concentrated around London, and there needs to be a counter-balance.
It’s also obviously less democratic than the House of Commons so couldn’t challenge the lower house;s primacy.
Jibbby123 on
*Burnham did not say when he would like to see these changes introduced or whether he would commit to starting the process if he becomes prime minster this year.*
No commitment to it, just words. Disappointing, but not unexpected.
Loreki on
It’s a no-brainer for Labour. They’ll have all the data showing that a relatively small swing to Reform in 2029 will see them lose the election in spectular fashion.
The best way to counter the extremes of politics is to bring in PR and coalition politics which will always tend to favour centrist results.
YoghurtFlan on
I wish I could post that meme of a guy riding a bike and then putting a stick in his front wheel.
The Labour party are allergic to success.
Brimwozere on
If he’s backing Reform he’s got a good chance then…
Slight-Strategy-5619 on
What’s laughable is that he isn’t even a MP and giving it all!
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Good! If it happens.
Is this a genuinly held belief or a ploy to get elected by the left wing membership and then, you know, go back on it?
He’s literally saying anything at this point. Expect further U-turns in the morning.
The only possible reform of any significance would be to go republic, and that is not going to happen in the lifetimes of anyone here.
“party that faces wipe out at next election in favour of changing the rules”
‘Andy Burnham to do anything that anyone with a vote wants him to do once he becomes PM’
he also wants to keep Shabana Mahmoods reforms
good luck fighting the left of your party with those. they’ll ask for your head too just like they did with Starmer
How about a reform that makes the Labour Party pay for these ridiculous by-elections
(As someone expecting to vote for labour myself)
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King Charles should have brought in the electoral reform with his last speech. Got all these politicians on the noose. And said it was a fine experiment but it’s clearly failed. Democracy works fine when you do it like the Greeks done a jury service. When your called you must serve. But folk literally go to uni to be a career politician never been in the real world.
I agree with electoral reform but a huge change like that that would have to be put in a Manifesto at a GE
They all say this, then it never happens. It’s just bluster
Electoral reform needed but there is no way Labour will ever agree to this.
Tories as example got over 100+ seats past election before being rock bottom. Same would be said for Labour.
who wouldn’t be in favour of PR? does the common person really want/benefit from FPTP?
That’s what they all say until they win an election under the FPTP system.
I think we also need to reform the upper house and have an assembly like the US Senate where each region gets one or two representatives, perhaps based on administrative counties or their equivalent in Scotland. There’s far too much money and power concentrated around London, and there needs to be a counter-balance.
It’s also obviously less democratic than the House of Commons so couldn’t challenge the lower house;s primacy.
*Burnham did not say when he would like to see these changes introduced or whether he would commit to starting the process if he becomes prime minster this year.*
No commitment to it, just words. Disappointing, but not unexpected.
It’s a no-brainer for Labour. They’ll have all the data showing that a relatively small swing to Reform in 2029 will see them lose the election in spectular fashion.
The best way to counter the extremes of politics is to bring in PR and coalition politics which will always tend to favour centrist results.
I wish I could post that meme of a guy riding a bike and then putting a stick in his front wheel.
The Labour party are allergic to success.
If he’s backing Reform he’s got a good chance then…
What’s laughable is that he isn’t even a MP and giving it all!