I am 25 and from india. So long story short, i struggled a lot in the traditional route. I tried for medical entrance exam and i failed. I completed my bachelors in philosophy and economics of 3 years in 5 years 🥲.
I have adhd, i struggle with sitting and working. But only thing that i like is cooking. I like working with my hands and its been a dream of mine to go to a culinary school but because of parents not supporting and financial reasons i wasnt able to. I have attached few pics, to show that i am genuinely interested in cooking đź«
So, my intial plan was to do masters in germany. But frankly i dont know what can i do with philosophy masters. And while researching i got to know about ausbildung which frankly seems like very good opportunity considering i get to learn and cook and i get paid. I mean thats cool. So i am really considering doing this and apply for koch / konditor ausbildung.
So i am just concerned about few things, before i invest 1 year in learning german upto b2.
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Is it possible for an indian citizen. Is there any genuine demand ? Do restaurant and bakeries sponsor or accept non-eu citizen ?
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Koch vs konditor ? Which is better ? I am fine with any one of them.
​I’m completely willing to put in the hard work, sweat, and long hours that come with the culinary world, but I want to make sure I’m not chasing an impossible dream given my nationality and age.
​Would love to hear from anyone who has done a culinary Ausbildung, employers in Germany, or fellow non-EU expats who made a similar jump.
​Thanks in advance for your time and insights!
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If you like cocaine. Yes
Work in a kitchen for 2 weeks before you decide. It’s not an easy job.
Yes, go ahead
Dont bother with konditor, if any of the two go for koch
You said youre willing to put up with stress and long hours. Youre underestimating it. Multiply it by 3 and then ask yourself if youre still willing and able to do it
Just know that the working hours are shit, salary unless youre head of kitchen are bad, its really stressful, most of your coworkers are gonna be on coke or alcohol.
After working in the restaurant industry full time for a decade, imho no its not worth it
My gf has an office job, flexible hours, homeoffice almost every day, crazy benefits and she earns almost twice as much as i do. Meanwhile i have more experience in my field than she has in hers.
Go for sth like that instead
Uff, tbh I don’t think it’s worth it.
Ausbildung in Germany is very low paid, you won’t be able to afford life here if you don’t have additional support/funds.
Technically you could apply for a visa if you get a contract, but why would any German restaurant/hotel hire someone from India (I assume you don’t live in Germany already) when they could technically hire someone here?
Having said that, there is little demand for jobs like that, when you are done with the Ausbildung your salary as a chef will stay low as well (a bit over minimum wage).
Just for reference, your salary (before tax, during your Ausbildung l) will be around 800€/month which would be around 720€ net. From that you need to be able to rent a room (in a city it would around 500€ minimum, maybe higher) plus you need to eat as well (250-300€), pay for public transport or car (50-60€).
I saw that you wanted to do medicine. May I ask if you have considered doing maybe something like Notfallsanitäter? It’s the highest non medical qualification in emergency response. Plus you might use it to get into medical school later on. On top of that people with ADHD tend to do well in stressful situations (like emergency care). Just a thought that popped into my head. But like others said: try something that’s fun for you. Best of luck to you!
On the one hand, locals have a great baking tradition and baking is taken extremely seriously and not as a hobby. So is going to be extremely challenging to get into the field. You also need C1 German here as you’ll be taught by locals who will expect you to know certain ways of working. Unless you’re already a hobby baker, it would be challenging to get genuinely interested in pursuing this.
On the other hand, it’s going to be extremely hard to convince a visa officer to give you a visa for this field. I’m not sure if baking and cooking has a Fachmangel in Germany. Why would the officer give you a work permit when there are plenty of EU nationals who could do this without one? You need to find an area that piques your interest and solves a skill problem in Germany for you to be considered in the local job market here. All the best!