One in six young people will not be in work or training in five years without action, report warns
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One in six young people will not be in work or training in five years without action, report warns
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I’m not normally a doom and gloom luddite, but this is only going to get worse with AI
I think, one needs to feel incentives to work. Which means jobs need to exist at the first place and wage suppression by labour oversupply shouldn’t be overly severe.
But I’m just a random idiot so what do I know.
We need to get a handle on benefits and welfare in this country and fast
And yet the action is so simple. Remove the welfare state.
Action! Action! I’m counting down and clapping my hands. Start taping. Action!
That s why I ll just take all my money out of this country.
The government will have no choice but appropriate everything people own to pay for these people.
I’m sadly parent to at least one of them . I don’t know where we start on this . There is SO much to untangle here
This country doesn’t care. Boomers vote in bigger numbers so they get all the money and attention.
Well yeah, lack of action is how you end up without work.
Something needs to be done to make employers hire young workers. I’ve been on the other side, hiring experienced workers. If I suggested hiring younger people with less experience the answer seems to be “we aren’t a charity”. Companies don’t want to invest and train new people only for them to leave 2 years later with barely a chance to capitalise on that investment.
In five years nothing will change towards a positive outcome within British society.
So thank you for reporting. But nothing feasible to be done within a span of 5 years that would alter this outcome.
Realistically speaking…. Nothing.
Will take 5 years to get this heard and thought about in parliament if ever were to be proposed 😅
And the job market it’s in itself a market. That needs this type of situations to be able to profit out of the workforce they pretend to cater.
The leftovers is for the state to take care.
A lot of the article is pointless without more detail, tbh. Can’t get a job in product design so “had no choice” to go onto benifits, what about a factory job, an operator or such?
Unless we know what they’re applying to, then its harder to say “cant get a job” or “cant get a job ***that they want*** to work”
Idk tho, I’d actually like to see more fine grained numbers, maybe they are trying?
This just tells me the country is not prepared for the huge changes that are to come. The way we look at work needs to change because soon humans will no longer be needed for it.
A universal income will have to be implemented and a job will be something you do in your spare time to earn extra cash. Being an online reseller, being an online streamer, being a creative that makes things to sell online these are the kind of jobs people will work in the not to distant future, the days of the 9-5 are slowly coming to an end.
Tony Blair is 100% right. Welfare reform needs to happen!
They need to shovel as much money as they can into proper apprenticeships, with proper career pathways. No bullshit, remove the bureaucracy which puts employers off, ban employers who take the piss. Good for business, good for the individual.
As a former apprentice, I will always advocate for apprenticeships – a proper one is worth its weight in gold. Everyone benefits.
That’s a shame :/
I’d argue that 1 in 6 companies could hire more staff if their CTO’s / Managers / Whatever’s actually knew what the fuck their staff did or had any concept of future proofing.
But no, it’s easier to re-allocate work to the existing employees, come out with a few buzzwords and slogans, and pretend like they aren’t using people for the sake of feeding greedy, profit hungry board members and stakeholders.
You also have the culture of yes men. People with 0 technical skills but the ability to say “yes, I can get that sorted” who then proceed to impact the working lives of MANY others in order to fulfil their own lies and secure a 5 figure bonus. You won’t even get half a day holiday as recognition. You definately won’t be getting colleagues when you’ve shown you can do the work for free.
Yes, AI is an issue, but the modern working world has had more than AI to worry about for many years now.
We won’t even get started on the concept of pensions and how young people today are meant to feel confident in that system.
Or the fact you need 4yrs experience for an entry level job that no one person at your future employer will be able to articulate because even they are winging it and moving the goalposts every day to fit into the “work smarter not harder” mentality.
Or the fact that in order to work full time most of them will need to live at home because private rent is out of control and you need 2years of full pay just to even make a realistic dent in a mortgage application.
Or the fact that if you live in a rural area you’re having to drive miles just to find a job to apply for. Let alone secure.
And then you have the nepo babies…of which every level of the job world has been saturated. Have fun working with people who literally use mummy and / or daddy in the business place to get their way.
All of those hoops and bullshit, just to pay more taxes than most countries and still need a food bank for you and your family.
The big IT companies have already warned us what is to come but politicians are so beholden to the Epstein class that fund, lobby or offer them post politics jobs that they’re prepared to sacrifice us for their greed.
We’ve been warned.
One in six? I thought the ‘youth unemployment’ was already above that now?
These reports could be condensed down to 9 million working age people economically inactive vs 700k job vacancies.
You can play around with figures or try and come up with explanations when the simple fact is there isn’t enough work in this country for the population. Either private businesses need to expand hiring or the government needs to provide stimulus.
We don’t really have a dynamic private sector like the US that will take risks and chase expansion so the probability is only the government can turn this round. If they spend years wasting time on reports instead of intervening the problem just compounds.
Fuck it, we have migrants in most jobs. I go McD, I go KFC, I go shopping… It needs to be talked about… Entry level jobs gone…
The average house price against wage in 1975 was 2x.
Today, it is 6.1x.
A mortgage usually requires you to earn 4.5x the monthly instalment AFTER tax… I’m not surprised NEETs exist at such a rate, given that what used to be entry level housing, is now only accessible to the top 20% of earners.
If I were playing a game, and my controller disconnected upon launch — I would also just not play.
Better bring in another 10 million migrants that should solve it
The British Army is struggling to recruit last time I heard. Being in the army is not just shooty shooty soldier. There’s plenty of opportunities. My cousin is having his paramedic degree sponsored by the RAF.
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Can we please talk about putting guard rails on AI? At this point I don’t think there are many people on the planet who don’t realise it’s causing record unemployment rates
And no, I don’t want to hear about how “it’s the modern tractor”. It’s not
Universities are lagging BIG time and the government has provided 0 guidance so far.
Graduates need to be able to oversee AI from the moment they walk through the door but universities actively discourage AI use.
All the money is going to tokens right now and of course they will eventually need to invest in graduates again but that means a whole generation will be left behind until that happens.
At 21 i got my degree and had 4 years of good success and upward trajectory (consultant at a research centre and a legal analyst at a bank)
Had a year of complete fall off due to health issues, a break up & losing most of my family.
Now stuck in retail and can’t get a job for love nor money.
Stock photo of a grown adult sulking on the floor is a bizarre choice
From a BBC article back in April “The data shows 35% of young men aged 20-35 were living with their parents – more than young women (22%), although the rate in both groups has been increasing.” Yeah we already have a fucking lost generation, the millennials…. Still haven’t gotten a proper foot fold… Shits only going to get worse with another “lost generation”
I don’t know how to say this without sounding like a prick but as a parent it amazes me how little parents participate in getting their kids to a place where they are actually prepared for the world by 16/18. Why do parents believe this is entirely schools responsibility.
Can’t believe no one has yet mentioned that this is partially (and I’d argue majorly) due to schools default pushing any pupils who show a possibility of getting good GCSE results from about Year 8, to get A Levels then get “an degree” – any degree, doesn’t matter if you’re not interested in the subject, doesn’t matter if you have zero desire to go to that university, just go to uni, get a degree, and we’ll worry about the massive debt later.
We now have a job market over-saturated with graduates with degrees they had no real interest in, all jockeying for some dead end “graduates only” career in a finance company or the corporate side of a supermarket (I know one of each – degrees in religious studies and geography respectively, both had no real interest in either).
I, and most people around me, believed my career path to be utterly insane until my late 20s when it paid off, and I’m far from well off now. But at least I get by and enjoy my work.
Whereas plenty of mates are doing well – own house, decent car, holidays, spare cash to buy shit they don’t really need. All of them got put in the lower sets at school, barely scraped a couples of Es, Fs, and even a few Us at GCSE, started a college course in a trade, got an apprenticeship, binned the college course off without even finishing the first year because they realised “why the fuck am I doing a college course when I could just do this for work?”, then went out on their own and were sitting pretty by their late 20s/early 30s.
We need a complete overhaul of the education system – not in what it teaches or how (though incidentally that’s another discussion we should seriously have) but in how it steers adolescents into what they should do with the first part of their adult life.
UBI’s the only way. And before anyone comments with a predictable, “Nah, it just ain’t viable”, read a book about it by economist Guy Standing, check out Scott Santens’ Substack, or visit one of the websites of numerous UBI think tanks or organisations, such as the Basic Income Earth Network (operating for several decades). There’s considerable research, pilot projects, and formal discussions about UBI happening right now, but most of it isn’t regularly covered by news outlets. Say goodbye to the dog-eat-dog world of neoliberal capitalism!
It’s going to be higher once the AI race really kicks in. No age group will be safe.
The fix can be, minimise legal “skilled immigration” and put a lot more money into retraining. Not enough Doctors? Ok maybe don’t charge Brits 100,00 GBP to become one.
Why would you want to work knowing that you can’t get a liveable wage? Groceries, housing, etc., are all taking your money and the cost of living is going to increase even more while wages fail to keep up. Britains, problem is that 50% of the economy is propped up by the 10% richest people and when those people stop spending or go elsewhere then Britain’s economy will collapse completely. There is no way out.
The data they present shows the increase coincides with the beginning of the Boriswave and levels out at around the same time. Causation or correlation?
The sad answer to this issue is that we need a true depression to act as a reset.
The issue is that companies have all collectively decided that its in their individual best interest to outsource the cost of training so other companies.
This is not sustainable and WILL result in a skills extinction event.
But shareholders dont care about 5, 10 or 20 years in the future, they care about the profits today so they will demand that nothing change and the corners remain cut.