Ironic, they want to look at how European countries do things to encourage National Service… I thought we didn’t like how Europe did things?
ElectricalPick9813 on
Who cares? The Tories may even end up not being His Majesty’s Loyal Opposition? They may as well promise unicorns and candy for all at this point.
External-Praline-451 on
I’m beginning to think Rishi has bet on the Tories losing the election.
I’m just grateful to him we have a relatively short election campaign period, and we can all be put out of our misery of listening to constant bollox soon.
aflyingsquanch on
Is the goal here to have the lowest election total in modern history?
MrStilton on
This is *the* central policy of his campaign, yet he has no idea as to how it would actually work.
He’s just making it up as he goes along.
Agreeable_Falcon1044 on
If you want to see how red meat works… ask them about this policy. It’s so devoid of any detail.
Depending on who you speak to, it could be any answer. It’s twelve months but maybe just weekends except when it isn’t, but can be in the community and if you don’t do it, you lose your driving license and bank account. You might have to stay in accommodation except when you don’t.
At least when Johnson pulled red meat out of thin air, it sort of made sense. Oven ready deal, 40 new hospitals, levelling up…
bitofslapandpickle on
He has no idea how he’d do this, and hasn’t bothered to figure it out, and it really doesn’t matter, because it’s a moot point. He’s not getting elected.
TokyoBaguette on
Just when you think he’s reached rock bottom… He starts to dig.
Violent_Lamb on
I don’t have much of an opinion on national service. I’m a reservist myself and enjoy the armed forces. My main thought though is why can’t we use more carrot then stick? Offer free tuition? Have them train as reservists whilst receiving a free degree in return for a number of years regular or reserve commitment post graduation?
inb4ww3_baby on
Fun fact when I was a teen sold weed and didn’t have a bank account…I even had a Saturday job but I was paid cash for some strange reason….also a driving license??? Mf can’t even get a home…
Sir-cunty on
Would rather lose my licence than my life shove your national service up ya posh toffy arse
Witty-Bus07 on
I don’t get how this policy would win over any voters and which base it appeals to cause let’s face it, they only trying to make sure that they win as much seats as possible and not finish 3rd behind LibDems.
Besides what if they don’t have bank accounts and driving licence or if they lose their bank account what happens to their money?
renebelloche on
To be fair, he didn’t mention bank accounts. Fiona Bruce did. By “access to finance” I assume he meant loans etc. There are so many legitimate bases upon which to criticise the Tories, without us having to invent things.
manntisstoboggan on
He’s like the Gareth Southgate of politics. Not a scooby
mrmidas2k on
Oh no, I’m sure Teenagers will be devastated to lose their bank account with fuck all in it, and their car that they can’t afford the fucking petrol for. Why don’t you cut their caviar ration too you gormless fuckhole?
Marcuse0 on
I’m 37 so this policy wouldn’t personally affect me, and my kids are young enough that they never would need to worry about this shit either.
But man, the way they’re promoting this is so weird. He says it’s optional, and Fiona Bruce challenges him to say how it’s optional but also compulsory, and he says people won’t be able to get “finances” if they don’t do it. Like what the fucking hell is this mad policy? So you’re 18, you’ve been in school and they’re going to shit on your life plans because you won’t do free work for them? It’s a good job a lettuce has a better chance for forming the next government than they do because these policies aren’t even half baked.
SDLRob on
Don’t worry… it’s completely voluntary.
Oh, but you will lose access to banking, Lose your drivers license, Get a criminal conviction for yourself and your parents and be blocked from certain jobs if you don’t do this.
But yeah, it’s totally voluntary
Phil_rick on
Scary that the current government is starting to threaten people’s bank accounts. I bet this will escalate to more in future with future government for lesser things.
Wadarkhu on
Removing basic services you *need* to be able to do anything if you don’t sign up, isn’t this just slavery or something? What’s next? Making everyone get a license to buy food and then taking it away when they don’t comply with future demands?
60sstuff on
Rishi is clearly so done with dealing with the shitstorm he has created he just wants out. And is saying anything that will get him out
Clbull on
Being on Nigel Farage as the LOTO at this rate. At least he’s not as openly corrupt as the Tories.
Stevemachinehk on
Why not just pay off their college debt if they do the National service..?
Hot_and_Foamy on
Last year Sunak made out debanking was a terrible thing. Now he wants to use it as a punishment
Uncle___Marty on
But Rishi, nobody listens to you. You’re about as important as flotation device in outerspace.
Newt-in-boots on
Maybe two years of putting their lives on hold to protect pensioners from gasping to death should count as service to their nation.
These predominantly tory voters have very short memories.
SomebodyStoleTheCake on
What we should be betting on is how quickly he pisses off to Canada when he loses. I reckon he’ll have left the country before the results are even in.
LubeTornado on
“Do it or else!”
If they doesn’t inspire patriotism…I don’t know what will… perhaps prison
Sacredfice on
The funny thing is that this guy become PM without getting voted in the fist place. What are the chance he is going to win with voting lol
Additional_Net_9202 on
I bet the people who support this policy go on the internet and say they are libertarians.
Proper_Dimension_341 on
So much for “there wont be any negatives if they opt out” 🤣 hope he keeps digging that whole for himself the jug earred out of touch twat, and ill sleep better at night knowing the tories will never be near power again
One-Confusion-2438 on
Let’s get youths scrubbing public toilets and picking up litter …empty bins…renovating council buildings and schools…maintaining public parts, planting trees. Would save a lot of council money and therefore our taxes. 💯
Goth-life on
Like the tories haven’t made life miserable enough for young people in the UK already
Necroticzi on
So they want to take a 2.5billion costing policy, while proclaiming we are in a crisis and they’re in severe debt that somehow needs to be paid by upping taxes and more.
To make the enforcement basically rejecting young people’s ability to earn money. Which would reduce the quantity of tax payers.
If teenagers unite against this sorta thing and outright refuse on a large enough scale, he really will put the country into a real economic crisis, my god I hope people don’t seriously vote for this and take a moment to consider how side ways this truely could go.
You will kill your own ever potiental of a pension voting In this. They will have to take into account a % of refusal. And removal of finance means they aren’t gonna work, homeless numbers will rise and the tax payers will shrink
-You_Cant_Stop_Me- on
He seems to have hung his entire existence on this one policy, but even my Daily ^hate Mail reading mum thinks it’s stupid. My Daily Torygraph reading aunty has been ranting and raving about nation service since I can remember though, even though she would have never been called up.
Xercen on
I think he is an entitled winner who realises the Tories are a bunch of losers so he is enacting revenge in the best possible way.
You cannot explain why he would hold an early election at all besides the fact he wants to deal a huge self inflicted wound to the party.
Either way, Labour was going to win. It’s time for a party that isn’t about nasty finger pointing at disabled, poor and brown people whilst giving money in bulk to already very wealthy people.
Bean-Penis on
There’s obviously a lot wrong with this but, as a cleaner, I’ve started to feel a bit disrespected that people are using my job as an example of a punishment.
Necessary-Product361 on
So for refusing to do unpayed labour, 18 year olds will be dennied access to a bank account? For how long? What if they live on their own without parental support or even have to care for someone? How would this effect their ability to get payed and to pay rent or buy food? It would be very difficult to live in the modern world without a bank account. What happens to existing accounts, is the money seized? How would this effect going to uni, if unable to pay tuition fees they would be dennied access to further education and in many cases a decent future. The more i think about ut the wose it gets. This is both not thought through and incredibly inhumane, which really sums up the last 14 years of government.
fhdhsu on
The main, most important purpose of the government is to protect us from those who would do us harm.
This is even more paramount in a country where said government has disarmed the population so we’re unable to defend ourself – you can’t disarm us then leave us out to the wolves.
So to break it down, if you decide to do something so reckless like, I don’t know, check your phone on the pavement in London you’re instantly liable to having it ripped from your hand. Same with if you’ve got a nice watch.
In the most surveiled city in the fucking world outside China – they can do nothing about this.
But if an 18 year old, a grown adult, refuses to perform free labour (objectively slavery) you’re going to strip them of their rights.
This is a government of stripping rights from normal, law abiding citizens – and protecting the real thugs who would do us harm.
Wanna smoke a fag? Nope. Use a vpn? Nope. Use end to end encryption? Nope. Protest? Nope.
It’s a nanny state on steroids, but without any of the benefits a nanny state is supposed to bring like near zero crime rates a la Singapore/
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Ironic, they want to look at how European countries do things to encourage National Service… I thought we didn’t like how Europe did things?
Who cares? The Tories may even end up not being His Majesty’s Loyal Opposition? They may as well promise unicorns and candy for all at this point.
I’m beginning to think Rishi has bet on the Tories losing the election.
I’m just grateful to him we have a relatively short election campaign period, and we can all be put out of our misery of listening to constant bollox soon.
Is the goal here to have the lowest election total in modern history?
This is *the* central policy of his campaign, yet he has no idea as to how it would actually work.
He’s just making it up as he goes along.
If you want to see how red meat works… ask them about this policy. It’s so devoid of any detail.
Depending on who you speak to, it could be any answer. It’s twelve months but maybe just weekends except when it isn’t, but can be in the community and if you don’t do it, you lose your driving license and bank account. You might have to stay in accommodation except when you don’t.
At least when Johnson pulled red meat out of thin air, it sort of made sense. Oven ready deal, 40 new hospitals, levelling up…
He has no idea how he’d do this, and hasn’t bothered to figure it out, and it really doesn’t matter, because it’s a moot point. He’s not getting elected.
Just when you think he’s reached rock bottom… He starts to dig.
I don’t have much of an opinion on national service. I’m a reservist myself and enjoy the armed forces. My main thought though is why can’t we use more carrot then stick? Offer free tuition? Have them train as reservists whilst receiving a free degree in return for a number of years regular or reserve commitment post graduation?
Fun fact when I was a teen sold weed and didn’t have a bank account…I even had a Saturday job but I was paid cash for some strange reason….also a driving license??? Mf can’t even get a home…
Would rather lose my licence than my life shove your national service up ya posh toffy arse
I don’t get how this policy would win over any voters and which base it appeals to cause let’s face it, they only trying to make sure that they win as much seats as possible and not finish 3rd behind LibDems.
Besides what if they don’t have bank accounts and driving licence or if they lose their bank account what happens to their money?
To be fair, he didn’t mention bank accounts. Fiona Bruce did. By “access to finance” I assume he meant loans etc. There are so many legitimate bases upon which to criticise the Tories, without us having to invent things.
He’s like the Gareth Southgate of politics. Not a scooby
Oh no, I’m sure Teenagers will be devastated to lose their bank account with fuck all in it, and their car that they can’t afford the fucking petrol for. Why don’t you cut their caviar ration too you gormless fuckhole?
I’m 37 so this policy wouldn’t personally affect me, and my kids are young enough that they never would need to worry about this shit either.
But man, the way they’re promoting this is so weird. He says it’s optional, and Fiona Bruce challenges him to say how it’s optional but also compulsory, and he says people won’t be able to get “finances” if they don’t do it. Like what the fucking hell is this mad policy? So you’re 18, you’ve been in school and they’re going to shit on your life plans because you won’t do free work for them? It’s a good job a lettuce has a better chance for forming the next government than they do because these policies aren’t even half baked.
Don’t worry… it’s completely voluntary.
Oh, but you will lose access to banking, Lose your drivers license, Get a criminal conviction for yourself and your parents and be blocked from certain jobs if you don’t do this.
But yeah, it’s totally voluntary
Scary that the current government is starting to threaten people’s bank accounts. I bet this will escalate to more in future with future government for lesser things.
Removing basic services you *need* to be able to do anything if you don’t sign up, isn’t this just slavery or something? What’s next? Making everyone get a license to buy food and then taking it away when they don’t comply with future demands?
Rishi is clearly so done with dealing with the shitstorm he has created he just wants out. And is saying anything that will get him out
Being on Nigel Farage as the LOTO at this rate. At least he’s not as openly corrupt as the Tories.
Why not just pay off their college debt if they do the National service..?
Last year Sunak made out debanking was a terrible thing. Now he wants to use it as a punishment
But Rishi, nobody listens to you. You’re about as important as flotation device in outerspace.
Maybe two years of putting their lives on hold to protect pensioners from gasping to death should count as service to their nation.
These predominantly tory voters have very short memories.
What we should be betting on is how quickly he pisses off to Canada when he loses. I reckon he’ll have left the country before the results are even in.
“Do it or else!”
If they doesn’t inspire patriotism…I don’t know what will… perhaps prison
The funny thing is that this guy become PM without getting voted in the fist place. What are the chance he is going to win with voting lol
I bet the people who support this policy go on the internet and say they are libertarians.
So much for “there wont be any negatives if they opt out” 🤣 hope he keeps digging that whole for himself the jug earred out of touch twat, and ill sleep better at night knowing the tories will never be near power again
Let’s get youths scrubbing public toilets and picking up litter …empty bins…renovating council buildings and schools…maintaining public parts, planting trees. Would save a lot of council money and therefore our taxes. 💯
Like the tories haven’t made life miserable enough for young people in the UK already
So they want to take a 2.5billion costing policy, while proclaiming we are in a crisis and they’re in severe debt that somehow needs to be paid by upping taxes and more.
To make the enforcement basically rejecting young people’s ability to earn money. Which would reduce the quantity of tax payers.
If teenagers unite against this sorta thing and outright refuse on a large enough scale, he really will put the country into a real economic crisis, my god I hope people don’t seriously vote for this and take a moment to consider how side ways this truely could go.
You will kill your own ever potiental of a pension voting In this. They will have to take into account a % of refusal. And removal of finance means they aren’t gonna work, homeless numbers will rise and the tax payers will shrink
He seems to have hung his entire existence on this one policy, but even my Daily ^hate Mail reading mum thinks it’s stupid. My Daily Torygraph reading aunty has been ranting and raving about nation service since I can remember though, even though she would have never been called up.
I think he is an entitled winner who realises the Tories are a bunch of losers so he is enacting revenge in the best possible way.
You cannot explain why he would hold an early election at all besides the fact he wants to deal a huge self inflicted wound to the party.
Either way, Labour was going to win. It’s time for a party that isn’t about nasty finger pointing at disabled, poor and brown people whilst giving money in bulk to already very wealthy people.
There’s obviously a lot wrong with this but, as a cleaner, I’ve started to feel a bit disrespected that people are using my job as an example of a punishment.
So for refusing to do unpayed labour, 18 year olds will be dennied access to a bank account? For how long? What if they live on their own without parental support or even have to care for someone? How would this effect their ability to get payed and to pay rent or buy food? It would be very difficult to live in the modern world without a bank account. What happens to existing accounts, is the money seized? How would this effect going to uni, if unable to pay tuition fees they would be dennied access to further education and in many cases a decent future. The more i think about ut the wose it gets. This is both not thought through and incredibly inhumane, which really sums up the last 14 years of government.
The main, most important purpose of the government is to protect us from those who would do us harm.
This is even more paramount in a country where said government has disarmed the population so we’re unable to defend ourself – you can’t disarm us then leave us out to the wolves.
So to break it down, if you decide to do something so reckless like, I don’t know, check your phone on the pavement in London you’re instantly liable to having it ripped from your hand. Same with if you’ve got a nice watch.
In the most surveiled city in the fucking world outside China – they can do nothing about this.
But if an 18 year old, a grown adult, refuses to perform free labour (objectively slavery) you’re going to strip them of their rights.
This is a government of stripping rights from normal, law abiding citizens – and protecting the real thugs who would do us harm.
Wanna smoke a fag? Nope. Use a vpn? Nope. Use end to end encryption? Nope. Protest? Nope.
It’s a nanny state on steroids, but without any of the benefits a nanny state is supposed to bring like near zero crime rates a la Singapore/