Since we’re in an illegal war, there is no reason to authorize this.
B-Z_B-S on
(From the article): “Senate Democrats on Tuesday defeated a motion to proceed to the $1.15 trillion annual defense authorization bill, legislation that usually enjoys strong bipartisan support but this year has become snarled in a partisan fight over defense spending levels.
The motion to advance the annual defense bill failed by a vote of 50 to 46. It needed 60 votes to succeed. Senators voted strictly along party lines except for Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-S.D.) who changed his vote from “yes” to “no” to allow him to bring the motion back to the floor at a later time. Four senators missed the vote: Sens. John Fetterman (D-Pa.), Jim Justice (R-W.Va.), Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Alex Padilla (D-Calif.).
The legislation advanced out of the Senate Armed Services Committee on June 11 with a bipartisan 18-9 vote, but the partisan battle lines have hardened since then as Republican and Democratic negotiators have failed to reach agreement on top-line defense and non-defense spending levels.
Democrats also cited the resumption of the military conflict with Iran and Trump’s failure to ask Congress to authorize the war, which started on Feb. 28, as a big reason behind their opposition to the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). “Now the White House has formally notified Congress that hostilities have resumed, that American strikes are under way again and our forces remain positioned for more. Yet Republicans want the Senate to take up the NDAA, the defense bill, as though none of this is happening,” Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer (N.Y.) said on the floor before the vote.
The legislation would provide $1.1 trillion to the Department of Defense, $41 billion to the Department of Energy to manage the nation’s nuclear arsenal and $11 billion to other defense-related activities. The legislation includes a 3.6 percent pay raise for troops and investments in education, housing health care and childcare for military families.
But the lack of a bipartisan deal on increasing defense and non-defense spending levels in tandem has caused a deadlock in the Senate that has ensnared the regular appropriations bills and now the defense authorization bill, as well.
Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Roger Wicker (R-Miss.) called the Democratic vote to block the defense bill from coming up for debate “unprecedented.” “It’s unprecedented not to pass the motion to proceed on the NDAA and it reflects a decision and a mindset on the part of Sen. Schumer not to cooperate at all because so much of this has been done on a bipartisan basis,” he said. “It really is a new low.”
Schumer on Monday criticized Republicans in a “Dear Colleague” letter for pushing “lopsided” bills that increased defense spending substantially while leaving behind non-defense programs. “There is nothing normal about putting forward a lopsided proposal that shuts down bipartisan input and jams through one-sided bills that shortchange families, prolong a war, and shield corruption,” he wrote.
Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) on Tuesday slammed the defense authorization bill as a bill to support the military conflict with Iran, which most Americans oppose. “It’s a war-funding authorization bill. This is an authorization for the Iran war, a war that nobody in this country wants,” he said.
Some Democrats were wavering on whether to vote to begin debate on the bill, such as Sen. Jack Reed (D-R.I.), the ranking member of the Armed Services Committee. “I’m considering it,” Reed said before the vote.”
jarena009 on
Thankfully.
LimpDisc on
$1.15 trillion is insane.
upotheke on
defense budget goes up 30% in one year under donald trump? I thought we were paying down the debt, that we were broke, that we didn’t have any more money to take care of our own people. Was this extra money on the tariff shelf too?
tbizzone on
This traitorous regime fired tens of thousands of hard working public sector employees under the farce of “efficiency and cutting wasteful spending” so they could line their own pockets and double the already bloated and out of control defense spending.
SonofaSpurrier on
Fetterman missed the vote of course, the senior senator from Pennsylvania!
Biohazardous1 on
How did it fail 50-46 with 4 Senators absent and Graham no longer with us?
Edit:Graham was not listed as one of the four absent. Those were McConnell, Padilla, Justice, and Fetterloser.
another-smelly-hound on
$1.15T while people live on the streets, schools go unfunded, infrastructure crumbles, and people can’t retire. We certainly have our priorities right
Avoidtolls on
That’s a lot of healthcare
Mish_Moneypenny on
Why did Fetterman miss the vote?
J-edge on
Now stick to it and force negotiations.
Knightoncloudwine on
Funny how we always have money for war but never have money for anything else.
Charger525 on
Good.
DelTrigger on
lazy ass mcconnell missing the vote
sfearing91 on
Fantastic.
Illustrious_Entry413 on
Hold the line bitch
robocheney on
That’s a truly obscene amount of money. It’s encouraging the Democrats actually did something by killing this appalling bill.
BenevolentDog on
It’s not for defense. It’s for war. They made a point of emphasizing that when they renamed the department.
overbarking on
Actually, *five* senators missed the vote. Right?
huistenbosch on
Cut that budget by at least 50%
SoupOfThe90z on
Hey can we have some fucking grocery relief now? Or healthcare?
Ok-Professor-Star on
100% of the $1.5 trillion is borrowed money…
threehundredthousand on
Rich people want your tax dollars to pay for protecting their wealth. Nothing more.
dltl on
“Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.” -Dwight Eisenhower (Republican)
Dense_Purchase4087 on
But public education, homelessness, health welfare… no money for those. Right…
VikingsLad on
“They’re both the same!”
They both suck, but one sucks *substantially less than the other.*
Cactusfan86 on
Maybe the pentagon should pass an audit before he just toss even more money into their black hole? Amazing how they whine about the debt but there is always money for the pentagon so we can buy aircraft carriers that catch on fire and don’t work properly
KamalaWonNoCap on
Good, make them give up some real concessions to pass this. Nobody wants this war but Trump.
tikifumble on
There’s nothing conservative about MAGA. They want to spend more than democrats and still claim they are the party of small government
HisCromulency on
I’d like some healthcare now please. USA is the only developed country in the world without a sensible healthcare system, maybe helping people be healthy is better than more tanks IDK
Sabiancym on
The willingness for MAGA voters to instantly change their beliefs is truly a sign of some form of mental illness. No wars and reducing the debt are talking points they scream about every election, yet here we are doing the opposite.
I’ve witnessed first hand a MAGA relative changing their views. All it took was playing them a video of Trump saying the opposite of what they claimed to believe, and suddenly they were repeating it. This MAGA insanity has actually prompted me to question consciousness. Are these people even real the same way I am or are they more like instinctual animals acting without coherent thought. Insane I know, but I cannot fathom how these people can hold and then instantly change the beliefs they do.
stackered on
bOtH sIdEs ArE tHe SaMe
people really still say shit like this all the time.
Minban on
But how will Americans defens themselves from made up conflicts that they have started?
guave06 on
1.15 is ridiculous
LandauTST on
Good. This was insane. We already spend more than the next 9 countries combined. This would’ve put our spending at like the next 18 combined. Which China is at #2 in defense spending at $336 billion. How anyone would’ve been OK with this blows my mind.
Edit: Misread the title and was going on the original proposed $1.5 trillion spending budget. So it would be like the next ~13 countries combined…which is still crazy. We spend an astronomical amount on defense when there’s more important things it could be used for, but instead we’re actually making *cuts* to because the politicians and their rich buddies don’t benefit from it.
true_new_troll on
>Senators voted strictly along party lines except for Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-S.D.) who changed his vote from “yes” to “no” to allow him to bring the motion back to the floor at a later time.
Gotta love it.
LieutJimDangle on
we must stop the military funding, to Israel and to ourselves. It is the only way to end the endless aggression, violence and genocide that we support all around the world. we are the bad guys. we are the terrorists.
ryland52586 on
I’m sorry, 1.15 TRILLION? With a T?
tacoeatsyou on
Have musk pay for it.
HundleyC09 on
The title should read, Republicans fail to making concessions on defense authorization Bill to get the necessary votes
loondawg on
>investments in education, housing health care and childcare for military families.
Just reminder this is one of the reasons they don’t want to fix these problems for the average citizen. Have to have a way to extort the poor into fighting the rich’s wars.
padizzledonk on
Good job
Pull out this incredibly ridiculous provission to merge the Israeli military into our own please
AdonisBlaqwood-22 on
Just proposing +$1 Trillion solely for defense should be an impeachable offense in these United States
yuletide on
But universal healthcare is too expensive
epidemica on
But we can’t afford school lunches, public health inspections and tracking, or student loan forgiveness.
mtnclimbingotter02 on
No reason for this abomination of a funding bill. DOD cannot pass an audit as is and we want to throw more money into the pit?
Republicans are the party of fiscal waste and abuse.
Adventurous_Test_296 on
Well done. 45-47 shouldn’t start wars he can’t finish.
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Since we’re in an illegal war, there is no reason to authorize this.
(From the article): “Senate Democrats on Tuesday defeated a motion to proceed to the $1.15 trillion annual defense authorization bill, legislation that usually enjoys strong bipartisan support but this year has become snarled in a partisan fight over defense spending levels.
The motion to advance the annual defense bill failed by a vote of 50 to 46. It needed 60 votes to succeed. Senators voted strictly along party lines except for Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-S.D.) who changed his vote from “yes” to “no” to allow him to bring the motion back to the floor at a later time. Four senators missed the vote: Sens. John Fetterman (D-Pa.), Jim Justice (R-W.Va.), Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Alex Padilla (D-Calif.).
The legislation advanced out of the Senate Armed Services Committee on June 11 with a bipartisan 18-9 vote, but the partisan battle lines have hardened since then as Republican and Democratic negotiators have failed to reach agreement on top-line defense and non-defense spending levels.
Democrats also cited the resumption of the military conflict with Iran and Trump’s failure to ask Congress to authorize the war, which started on Feb. 28, as a big reason behind their opposition to the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). “Now the White House has formally notified Congress that hostilities have resumed, that American strikes are under way again and our forces remain positioned for more. Yet Republicans want the Senate to take up the NDAA, the defense bill, as though none of this is happening,” Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer (N.Y.) said on the floor before the vote.
The legislation would provide $1.1 trillion to the Department of Defense, $41 billion to the Department of Energy to manage the nation’s nuclear arsenal and $11 billion to other defense-related activities. The legislation includes a 3.6 percent pay raise for troops and investments in education, housing health care and childcare for military families.
But the lack of a bipartisan deal on increasing defense and non-defense spending levels in tandem has caused a deadlock in the Senate that has ensnared the regular appropriations bills and now the defense authorization bill, as well.
Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Roger Wicker (R-Miss.) called the Democratic vote to block the defense bill from coming up for debate “unprecedented.” “It’s unprecedented not to pass the motion to proceed on the NDAA and it reflects a decision and a mindset on the part of Sen. Schumer not to cooperate at all because so much of this has been done on a bipartisan basis,” he said. “It really is a new low.”
Schumer on Monday criticized Republicans in a “Dear Colleague” letter for pushing “lopsided” bills that increased defense spending substantially while leaving behind non-defense programs. “There is nothing normal about putting forward a lopsided proposal that shuts down bipartisan input and jams through one-sided bills that shortchange families, prolong a war, and shield corruption,” he wrote.
Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) on Tuesday slammed the defense authorization bill as a bill to support the military conflict with Iran, which most Americans oppose. “It’s a war-funding authorization bill. This is an authorization for the Iran war, a war that nobody in this country wants,” he said.
Some Democrats were wavering on whether to vote to begin debate on the bill, such as Sen. Jack Reed (D-R.I.), the ranking member of the Armed Services Committee. “I’m considering it,” Reed said before the vote.”
Thankfully.
$1.15 trillion is insane.
defense budget goes up 30% in one year under donald trump? I thought we were paying down the debt, that we were broke, that we didn’t have any more money to take care of our own people. Was this extra money on the tariff shelf too?
This traitorous regime fired tens of thousands of hard working public sector employees under the farce of “efficiency and cutting wasteful spending” so they could line their own pockets and double the already bloated and out of control defense spending.
Fetterman missed the vote of course, the senior senator from Pennsylvania!
How did it fail 50-46 with 4 Senators absent and Graham no longer with us?
Edit:Graham was not listed as one of the four absent. Those were McConnell, Padilla, Justice, and Fetterloser.
$1.15T while people live on the streets, schools go unfunded, infrastructure crumbles, and people can’t retire. We certainly have our priorities right
That’s a lot of healthcare
Why did Fetterman miss the vote?
Now stick to it and force negotiations.
Funny how we always have money for war but never have money for anything else.
Good.
lazy ass mcconnell missing the vote
Fantastic.
Hold the line bitch
That’s a truly obscene amount of money. It’s encouraging the Democrats actually did something by killing this appalling bill.
It’s not for defense. It’s for war. They made a point of emphasizing that when they renamed the department.
Actually, *five* senators missed the vote. Right?
Cut that budget by at least 50%
Hey can we have some fucking grocery relief now? Or healthcare?
100% of the $1.5 trillion is borrowed money…
Rich people want your tax dollars to pay for protecting their wealth. Nothing more.
“Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.” -Dwight Eisenhower (Republican)
But public education, homelessness, health welfare… no money for those. Right…
“They’re both the same!”
They both suck, but one sucks *substantially less than the other.*
Maybe the pentagon should pass an audit before he just toss even more money into their black hole? Amazing how they whine about the debt but there is always money for the pentagon so we can buy aircraft carriers that catch on fire and don’t work properly
Good, make them give up some real concessions to pass this. Nobody wants this war but Trump.
There’s nothing conservative about MAGA. They want to spend more than democrats and still claim they are the party of small government
I’d like some healthcare now please. USA is the only developed country in the world without a sensible healthcare system, maybe helping people be healthy is better than more tanks IDK
The willingness for MAGA voters to instantly change their beliefs is truly a sign of some form of mental illness. No wars and reducing the debt are talking points they scream about every election, yet here we are doing the opposite.
I’ve witnessed first hand a MAGA relative changing their views. All it took was playing them a video of Trump saying the opposite of what they claimed to believe, and suddenly they were repeating it. This MAGA insanity has actually prompted me to question consciousness. Are these people even real the same way I am or are they more like instinctual animals acting without coherent thought. Insane I know, but I cannot fathom how these people can hold and then instantly change the beliefs they do.
bOtH sIdEs ArE tHe SaMe
people really still say shit like this all the time.
But how will Americans defens themselves from made up conflicts that they have started?
1.15 is ridiculous
Good. This was insane. We already spend more than the next 9 countries combined. This would’ve put our spending at like the next 18 combined. Which China is at #2 in defense spending at $336 billion. How anyone would’ve been OK with this blows my mind.
Edit: Misread the title and was going on the original proposed $1.5 trillion spending budget. So it would be like the next ~13 countries combined…which is still crazy. We spend an astronomical amount on defense when there’s more important things it could be used for, but instead we’re actually making *cuts* to because the politicians and their rich buddies don’t benefit from it.
>Senators voted strictly along party lines except for Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-S.D.) who changed his vote from “yes” to “no” to allow him to bring the motion back to the floor at a later time.
Gotta love it.
we must stop the military funding, to Israel and to ourselves. It is the only way to end the endless aggression, violence and genocide that we support all around the world. we are the bad guys. we are the terrorists.
I’m sorry, 1.15 TRILLION? With a T?
Have musk pay for it.
The title should read, Republicans fail to making concessions on defense authorization Bill to get the necessary votes
>investments in education, housing health care and childcare for military families.
Just reminder this is one of the reasons they don’t want to fix these problems for the average citizen. Have to have a way to extort the poor into fighting the rich’s wars.
Good job
Pull out this incredibly ridiculous provission to merge the Israeli military into our own please
Just proposing +$1 Trillion solely for defense should be an impeachable offense in these United States
But universal healthcare is too expensive
But we can’t afford school lunches, public health inspections and tracking, or student loan forgiveness.
No reason for this abomination of a funding bill. DOD cannot pass an audit as is and we want to throw more money into the pit?
Republicans are the party of fiscal waste and abuse.
Well done. 45-47 shouldn’t start wars he can’t finish.