Some will, some will not. Anyone who pretends otherwise is trying to deceive you, ask yourself why.
m4n13k on
70% will stay.
blinkinbling on
Can you fantasize about war ending first?
LurkingWeirdo88 on
Depends whether they still own any property in Ukraine.
Active-Coconut-8961 on
Refugees are supposed to move back once the danger is over, but we all know most don’t
ant0szek on
Major deciding factor will finances. Good example is poland when we were approaching closer to wester salaries poles start to come back home, since financial difference are not that massive any more given we were not at war, but still. Ppl follow money most of the time. So when ukraine start approaching wester salaries. That will be the biggest incentive to come back. After war don’t expect massive returns.
EffectiveDevice7963 on
Most will not. Why would they? After a few years abroad you are already semi-integrated, used to the new environment and you probably earn way more than you could ever dream of in Ukraine, which is currently by far the poorest country in Europe.
Sad to see Ukraine like this, from 50m people in the 90s to dropping below 30m on the whole territory…
nimdull on
No.
1) Ukrain after war will be a phantom country that might collapse. Last day of war all support will be cut.
2) people who left Ukraine already know what’s the life difference and political difference between Ukraine and EU. Better money you earn in Europ.
3) what’s the guarantee that Russia will not attack again?
im-cringing-rightnow on
Depends. Some lived quite happily before ruzzians decided do destroy their lives and force them to be a refugee.
Being a refugee is not easy despite what idiots and populist politicians are saying. Everything is a wall, a barrier. Language, education, job hunting, cultural differences, just overall “you are a refugee so you are not as good as others”.
Some wanted to move even before the war and those will never come back.
Some have nowhere to return to even if they wanted to.
Many many others just want this to be over and come back to the life they once knew…
Soggy-Translator-816 on
You’d better ask how many is waiting to leave but physically can’t because of closed borders. Whole families are locked just because men can’t cross the border
Alien0703 on
Most people wont return. As long as Ukraine cannot offer similar living conditions most people wont go back. It took Poland 20 years after joining EU to change migration statistics in a way that now more Poles come back to the country than leave.
__shobber__ on
Most will not. 4 years is a whole new life, meanwhile war doesn’t seem to be at end.
baturik128 on
I have a lot of friends who moved from Ukraine to EU/US/Canada/other countries and from the top of my head maybe 1-2 are actually planning to return, not just “well possibly some day, maybe”. Most of my female friends go back to Ukraine from time to time to visit family/friends and get their dental care done (it is much cheaper here). So I guess we will have another exodus after the war is over and the borders are finally opened
Kawauso_Yokai on
I don’t know if many will return, but many will leave at the first opportunity.
fiendishrabbit on
The people who have something to return to often will.
Like, roughly 60% (somewhere between 50% and 70%) of refugees after the Yugoslavian war returned afterwards.
How many will return to Ukraine depends on the destruction (if there are jobs and homes to return to), how long the war lasts and if their territory is occupied by what they consider the enemy,
BuHoGPaD on
Some will, some won’t.
John_OSheas_Willy on
Most won’t. Deluded to think otherwise.
Impossible-Ground-98 on
I’m Polish and I can’t imagine why they would return in big numbers… Once you’re in EU, it must be hard to go back, especially when there’s going to be so much effort needed to build Ukraine back.
space-cowboy-07 on
Depends how it ends as well.
CanadianMultigun on
The vast majority will not return. The median income in Germany is €54,000 a year, in Ukraine it´s €6000 and that´s with enormous amounts of funding from outside Ukraine which will dwindle when the war ends.
Pretty much every measurable standard of living is better in every country outside Ukraine than inside it.
After say 5 years living abroad everyone is settled, wealthier and with kids in school or family receiving better healthcare than the return.
Of course the question for all the men outside Ukrain is “Why would I return to a place that might trap and conscript me if fighting starts again?”
It´s over
w1nt3rh3art3d on
It depends. Some will return, and some won’t. I personally won’t return, even if the war ends, because of corruption, the human rights situation, and the lack of respect for the rule of law and the Constitution by public authorities.
ayeroxx on
most of them wont,
No_Flower_4280 on
The same i want to know about syrians
Hot_Income6149 on
As I learned about Cosovo, people were almost forced to leave EU. Everything will be back to normal way – Visa
Right-Smoke8132 on
Probably not. At least willingly. In general, they have far better life outside Ukraine.
AconitumUrsinum on
For Europe it would be very beneficial if they wouldn’t return. Many hard-working, educated and smart young people amongst them. And good looking too lol. Ukraine of course should think about how to get them back. I am also sure that there will be plenty of opportunities in a post-war Ukraine to build a career and livelihood.
LittleLui on
Did displaced people from the balkan wars return home after 1995? Some did, some didn’t.
Did displaced people from WWII return home after 1945? Some did, some didn’t.
Did displaced people from WWI return home after 1918? Some did, some didn’t.
I’m kinda seeing a pattern here.
RandomKnifeBro on
No. Even after the war, the only thing Ukraine has to look forward to is crippling debt and massive infrastructural issues.
Rebuilding 20% of the country is an incredible cost
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Some will, some will not. Anyone who pretends otherwise is trying to deceive you, ask yourself why.
70% will stay.
Can you fantasize about war ending first?
Depends whether they still own any property in Ukraine.
Refugees are supposed to move back once the danger is over, but we all know most don’t
Major deciding factor will finances. Good example is poland when we were approaching closer to wester salaries poles start to come back home, since financial difference are not that massive any more given we were not at war, but still. Ppl follow money most of the time. So when ukraine start approaching wester salaries. That will be the biggest incentive to come back. After war don’t expect massive returns.
Most will not. Why would they? After a few years abroad you are already semi-integrated, used to the new environment and you probably earn way more than you could ever dream of in Ukraine, which is currently by far the poorest country in Europe.
Sad to see Ukraine like this, from 50m people in the 90s to dropping below 30m on the whole territory…
No.
1) Ukrain after war will be a phantom country that might collapse. Last day of war all support will be cut.
2) people who left Ukraine already know what’s the life difference and political difference between Ukraine and EU. Better money you earn in Europ.
3) what’s the guarantee that Russia will not attack again?
Depends. Some lived quite happily before ruzzians decided do destroy their lives and force them to be a refugee.
Being a refugee is not easy despite what idiots and populist politicians are saying. Everything is a wall, a barrier. Language, education, job hunting, cultural differences, just overall “you are a refugee so you are not as good as others”.
Some wanted to move even before the war and those will never come back.
Some have nowhere to return to even if they wanted to.
Many many others just want this to be over and come back to the life they once knew…
You’d better ask how many is waiting to leave but physically can’t because of closed borders. Whole families are locked just because men can’t cross the border
Most people wont return. As long as Ukraine cannot offer similar living conditions most people wont go back. It took Poland 20 years after joining EU to change migration statistics in a way that now more Poles come back to the country than leave.
Most will not. 4 years is a whole new life, meanwhile war doesn’t seem to be at end.
I have a lot of friends who moved from Ukraine to EU/US/Canada/other countries and from the top of my head maybe 1-2 are actually planning to return, not just “well possibly some day, maybe”. Most of my female friends go back to Ukraine from time to time to visit family/friends and get their dental care done (it is much cheaper here). So I guess we will have another exodus after the war is over and the borders are finally opened
I don’t know if many will return, but many will leave at the first opportunity.
The people who have something to return to often will.
Like, roughly 60% (somewhere between 50% and 70%) of refugees after the Yugoslavian war returned afterwards.
How many will return to Ukraine depends on the destruction (if there are jobs and homes to return to), how long the war lasts and if their territory is occupied by what they consider the enemy,
Some will, some won’t.
Most won’t. Deluded to think otherwise.
I’m Polish and I can’t imagine why they would return in big numbers… Once you’re in EU, it must be hard to go back, especially when there’s going to be so much effort needed to build Ukraine back.
Depends how it ends as well.
The vast majority will not return. The median income in Germany is €54,000 a year, in Ukraine it´s €6000 and that´s with enormous amounts of funding from outside Ukraine which will dwindle when the war ends.
Pretty much every measurable standard of living is better in every country outside Ukraine than inside it.
After say 5 years living abroad everyone is settled, wealthier and with kids in school or family receiving better healthcare than the return.
Of course the question for all the men outside Ukrain is “Why would I return to a place that might trap and conscript me if fighting starts again?”
It´s over
It depends. Some will return, and some won’t. I personally won’t return, even if the war ends, because of corruption, the human rights situation, and the lack of respect for the rule of law and the Constitution by public authorities.
most of them wont,
The same i want to know about syrians
As I learned about Cosovo, people were almost forced to leave EU. Everything will be back to normal way – Visa
Probably not. At least willingly. In general, they have far better life outside Ukraine.
For Europe it would be very beneficial if they wouldn’t return. Many hard-working, educated and smart young people amongst them. And good looking too lol. Ukraine of course should think about how to get them back. I am also sure that there will be plenty of opportunities in a post-war Ukraine to build a career and livelihood.
Did displaced people from the balkan wars return home after 1995? Some did, some didn’t.
Did displaced people from WWII return home after 1945? Some did, some didn’t.
Did displaced people from WWI return home after 1918? Some did, some didn’t.
I’m kinda seeing a pattern here.
No. Even after the war, the only thing Ukraine has to look forward to is crippling debt and massive infrastructural issues.
Rebuilding 20% of the country is an incredible cost