Brilliant common sense decision. There should be no worry of being labelled anti-Semitic if you fundamentally disagree with the state-sanctioned execution of Palestinians.
ragged-bobyn-1972 on
if anything this is a long term boon for the Jewish community, muddying the waters o the subject would have been a massive step in normalizing it.
ServoSkull20 on
Well, no. Being critical of Israel, and lumping other Jews in with them are two very different things. A shame so many people can’t see, or don’t care about that line.
JustWhy1222 on
This argument would be helped massively if the chosen definition of the word Zionist didn’t change multiple times a day, depending on who they are talking to.
somethingdarkside45 on
You can certainly be anti-zionist without being antisemitic.
However there is *certainly* a growing number of people coding their language to appear anti-zionist to disguise real antisemitic sentiment.
ApprehensiveKey1469 on
Attempts by a foreign state and it’s bad actors within the UK to conflate antizionism with antisemitism has deservedly failed.
PublicStructure7091 on
Sure. But David Miller absolutely is an antisemite
GRang3r on
Being critical of the actions of the Israeli government is in no way anti semitic. With the invention of smart phones and video sharing has shifted the narrative from official channels to social media. People are more free to come to their own conclusions
Key-Room5690 on
Given that no one can agree on the actual definition of Zionism these days we really should just drop the term. Instead, we need to be asking:
– Do you support the continued existence of Israel and/or Palestine in general?
– Do you condone the actions of the Israeli / Palestinian authorities wrt each other?
I think we’d then find the vast majority of people occupy that moderate position of “two state solution and please stop killing each other”, which could be construed variously as pro- or anti-Zionist depending on who’s asking.
Rmtcts on
Seeing a lot of people assuming this helps to differentiate between anti-semetism and anti-zionism. It does the opposite, the person found to have protection for his beliefs said Jews do not experience discrimination, that they disproportionately hold positions of power in Europe, and they use that power to discriminate against other minorities. None of those are statements I would normally have associated with anti-zionism.
Striking_Smile6594 on
Technically this is correct, of course it is not inherently antisemitic to criticise the government of Israel.
Simultaneously though we should not pretend that many genuine antisemites do not use ‘antizionism’ as a shield and that lots of ‘antizionist’ rhetoric is not just barely disguised antisemitism.
TheLimeyLemmon on
Good. They are two very different things and it’s increasingly become an underhanded tactic by some to treat the two things as one and the same to shutdown criticism.
Clbull on
How long until the SCOTUK overturns this ruling because Bibi can do no wrong…
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Brilliant common sense decision. There should be no worry of being labelled anti-Semitic if you fundamentally disagree with the state-sanctioned execution of Palestinians.
if anything this is a long term boon for the Jewish community, muddying the waters o the subject would have been a massive step in normalizing it.
Well, no. Being critical of Israel, and lumping other Jews in with them are two very different things. A shame so many people can’t see, or don’t care about that line.
This argument would be helped massively if the chosen definition of the word Zionist didn’t change multiple times a day, depending on who they are talking to.
You can certainly be anti-zionist without being antisemitic.
However there is *certainly* a growing number of people coding their language to appear anti-zionist to disguise real antisemitic sentiment.
Attempts by a foreign state and it’s bad actors within the UK to conflate antizionism with antisemitism has deservedly failed.
Sure. But David Miller absolutely is an antisemite
Being critical of the actions of the Israeli government is in no way anti semitic. With the invention of smart phones and video sharing has shifted the narrative from official channels to social media. People are more free to come to their own conclusions
Given that no one can agree on the actual definition of Zionism these days we really should just drop the term. Instead, we need to be asking:
– Do you support the continued existence of Israel and/or Palestine in general?
– Do you condone the actions of the Israeli / Palestinian authorities wrt each other?
I think we’d then find the vast majority of people occupy that moderate position of “two state solution and please stop killing each other”, which could be construed variously as pro- or anti-Zionist depending on who’s asking.
Seeing a lot of people assuming this helps to differentiate between anti-semetism and anti-zionism. It does the opposite, the person found to have protection for his beliefs said Jews do not experience discrimination, that they disproportionately hold positions of power in Europe, and they use that power to discriminate against other minorities. None of those are statements I would normally have associated with anti-zionism.
Technically this is correct, of course it is not inherently antisemitic to criticise the government of Israel.
Simultaneously though we should not pretend that many genuine antisemites do not use ‘antizionism’ as a shield and that lots of ‘antizionist’ rhetoric is not just barely disguised antisemitism.
Good. They are two very different things and it’s increasingly become an underhanded tactic by some to treat the two things as one and the same to shutdown criticism.
How long until the SCOTUK overturns this ruling because Bibi can do no wrong…