Swiss Post and Swisscom are relocating more and more jobs abroad, thereby endangering the public service. transfair is fighting back: With a newly launched petition, the personnel association is calling on the Federal Council and Parliament to stop the outsourcing. Because both companies are majority owned by the federal government – it could prevent the relocation.

    Federally affiliated companies such as the Post Office and Swisscom are majority owned by the federal government – and therefore by the Swiss population. Nevertheless, both companies are constantly relocating jobs and specialist knowledge abroad.

    Since 2022, Swiss Post has outsourced 130 IT positions to Lisbon. Swisscom has relocated over 600 jobs to Latvia and the Netherlands and has also set up locations in Kosovo, Poland and Bulgaria.

    And it continues: Swisscom recently announced that it would be opening a new location in Lisbon. The Post has initially postponed plans to expand its existing location in Lisbon until the summer of 2027 under public pressure. Nevertheless, several hundred new jobs could be created in the Portuguese capital, which would then be lost in Switzerland.

    https://www.transfair.ch/de/aktuelles/service-public-transfair-lanciert-petition-gegen-offshoring

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    1. DragonflyFuture4638 on

      **AXPO passt ins gleiche Muster.** Wenn ein Unternehmen mehrheitlich dem Staat gehört, dann sollte es auch mehrheitlich dem Staat nutzen – und zwar, indem es Arbeitsplätze und Know-how hier behält.

      Die Petition von transfair ist ein guter Anfang. Druck wirkt – wie man an der Post sieht. Aber die eigentliche Lösung ist politisch: Entweder der *Service Public*-Auftrag wird durchgesetzt oder die Unternehmen werden privatisiert.

    2. They should just sell the remaining stake in Swisscom. For post just keep the essential service but sell PostFinance.

    3. Plenty of ways to reason about this.

      Should Swisscom also increase the salaries of its employees ? Or should they hire more people than they actually need , to lower the unemployment rate? Or should they cut prices, to help us get cheap internet services, given it is majority state owned? Should the government increase federal taxes to finance these initiatives? Or should Swisscom just get in the red because private competitors are cheaper while being more efficient (hence no dividend to the Confederation, hence some gap in public finances that needs to be covered some other way)? Should we all switch to Swisscom to help them keep IT jobs in Switzerland, even if it is more expensive than Salt and Sunrise and Yallo? Or should we boycott it, at the risk of initiating more cost cuts?

      Should the Post use the money it saves outsourcing IT to hire more postmen in Switzerland, the roles that really can not be outsourced? Should they increase the frequency of the Post Bus arriving at your village instead? What about a lower mortgage? Or should they give you 0.2% more on your savings account? Or just pay a bigger dividend to the State?

    4. Nestle Philipp Morris and co do the same… didnt switzerland even vote against corporate responsibility… what do you expect?

    5. onehandedbackhand on

      The problem is that both of these companies are in competition with privately-owned companies (for large parts of their business) that do the same thing. And both of these companies are expected to operate without subsidies and generate profits that are paid out as dividends into the federal budget…

    6. WillingnessFinal1411 on

      It’s not like this petition is uncovering some hidden ethical truth. We all know this kind of business practice isn’t ethical.

      This is like a game. Some companies started it, managed to save on costs and now everybody’s running towards it. Compete or die. They all dream of having a central slim competence centre with all the c level in expensive Switzerland and everything else in cheaper outside. Like it’s a competitive plus when everybody’s doing it.

      But there are so many issues already! Talent out there isn’t unlimited. Actually, very often the cost of a real talent is comparable to swiss salaries. People there are very much aware they’re the exploited ones and don’t have the company belonging emotions. Just a job. The inside knowledge is getting lost, the tech advancements are stopping. Cybersecurity is questionable. The house of cards will inevitably crash. Consultants and services here or there but nearshoring a significant part of the company? A company without employees is the dream, isnt it? Products without production costs. 

      We don’t need another Jesus to tell us that we should compete in good things, not in the bad ones. Socialism won’t help here. Companies need to figure out that they’re losing competitively if not focusing on employees. 

      Employees ARE the service, ARE the product – not the cost data.

    7. While I agree with the petition I don’t think there is any union or other body to prevent the outsourcing. For every business the only two things that matter is top and bottom line. IT is a commodity and as such it will be sold to the cheapest bidder, sad but true.

      (written as a restructured IT guy)

    8. Elric_the_seafarer on

      Can’t we just stop having these crazy high salaries?

      Companies are not willing to pay them and we local don’t want to fight with the rest of the world attracted by them for every fking job out there.

    9. Just buy them back completely and have proper public services. Competition to improve the services is something from the past, not everything has to be profitable. We learned what’s good and what isn’t and we have competent experts to lead researches on improvement. But private companies and a few people profiting from the situation will cry if it’s done and we don’t want them to be sad

    10. DragonflyFuture4638 on

      I would also add FINMA to that mix. They’re supposed to regulate banks and be the experts who keep our financial system afloat and safe. They frequently have meetings with Banks and do Fire-drills to check that those banks can operate in a crisis. Do you know who leads those meetings and fire drills? It’s not FINMA employees…. it’s Ernst & Young (some of their employees here and some abroad). So our super regulator outsources their key functions just to cover their ass when something like the CS debacle happens.