Buyer wants receipt for less than he has to pay. Is this normal? All my alarmbells are going off. But i’m just not 100percent sure
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Buyer wants receipt for less than he has to pay. Is this normal? All my alarmbells are going off. But i’m just not 100percent sure
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Posted by Kennyvee98
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If it feels too good to be true, it’s usually a scam
Ik zou het gewoon laten voor wat het is, dan ben je altijd 100% zeker.
I feel like they’re going to pay you 490 in the end and then refer to the receipt to defend themselves.
It might not be a scam, it might just be fraud
Ist fraude and putting you at risk getting paid less.
Probably his intentions are not bad but it remains fraude
Yes. If you want, break it up into different line items.
To be clear i don’t know exactly what is going on but someone is never going to be able to match a 550 payment with a 490 invoice. Someone is playing fast and loose with the rules
Might still be a scam but this definitely is a thing if I’m not mistaken.
If you buy something with a invoice through your company starting at €500 you have to deal with depreciation. So definitely sketchy between him and the fiscus but he’s not just making stuff up.
Het is bizar, maar ik zie de scam niet.
Als hij/zij niet van plan is te betalen, dan is dit een onnodige tussenstap. Voor witwassen moet je juist meer op papier hebben dan je effectief betaald.
Mijn gok is dus dat het de waarheid is, en de koper effectief een soort aanbestedingsprocedure van z’n werkgever probeert te omzeilen. Ook een vorm van fraude natuurlijk, maar van een andere orde dan oplichting.
in general there is no advantage to making favours to people you don’t know and a lot of possible disadvantages. doing business often with this person? then you can start talking about favours
Laat hem gwn 550 betalen, en eens je het geld hebt zet je 490 op het factuur, einde.
It’s a thing. Just give the receipt after you accept the cash
I have similar rules at my job. I can buy certain furniture (even second hand) and file it as an expense. Done.
However, if it is over a certain price it is not covered by that program and I would need to motivate why I need it, my boss and his boss need to approve, I need to get an HR approval,… and I might never get an approval.
Thanks for the reactions. I will not go ahead and aid fraude.
How to get rid of 60 euros of black money.
Likely either tax fraud or trying to circumvent internal rules from the company. As an example of internal rules:
We used to have a 500 euro max spending power at my first job. Spending more meant inviting vendors etc, something we didn’t care for. So we just invited the vendor we wanted and asked to sell us their product in parts, each invoiced on their own invoice. Problem solved.
Sell him something else, cheaper, as well and overprice that with the 60 euro difference. Let him pay for both, and no take backsies etc ofcoz…
Don’t know what you’re selling, but can’t you split that thing in 2 (eg a desk sold as the counter top and later on selling the set of legs)?
Not a scam, just casual fraud. No risk to you if you let him pay first and then supply the invoice.
In the Netherlands this makes a difference. In Belgium you can put a 1700 euro apple phone in one year deduxtible with no questions asked.
Beside fraud, this also seems like someone without much knowledge of accountancy.
Als jij je geld krijgt, wat is het probleem dan. Onder 500 kan hij meteen in kost boeken, boven de 500 moet hij afschrijven over tien jaar. Aan boekhoudkundige kosten alleen al kost dat een smak geld.
The people saying this is fraud, yes technically it is.
However, my impression is that the buyer will be reimbursed for maximum 500 euro’s and if more would require approval.
So the buyer is probably paying 60 euro’s out of pocket and getting reimbursed for 490.
This is the type of “fraud” that doesn’t hurt anyone.
Gentle reminder though that this is an assumption based on the very limited information provided by OP.
A friend of mine got a 1000€ budget to make his home office, he can buy whatever he wants wherever he wants. But if he goes over budget with one item, he won’t get reimbursed for the whole item. It looks like your buyer has 490€ left of his budget, and wants the invoice to say 490, he’ll have to pay the remaining 60€ out of his own pocket.
If you get the money before sending the item, i would do it.
Just give them 2 receipts. One for 490 and then one for the remaining 60. What he then does with those receipts is not your problem 🤷
*Not financial or legal advice😋
So he is paying the extra from his own pocket. Why doesn’t he just tell the employer he is paying the upgrade over the budget?
OP. Just do what the guy wants you to do. He’s slightly ‘bending the rules’. This is how a lot of folks do stuff. it’s ok. No-one’s getting in trouble here.
I think it’s legit, the guy is just trying to purchase something as a company that is actually a personal expense.
In order to make it all a bit more hidden he wants to keep expenses lower so it can be booked under cost and doesn’t need to go on the balance sheet, then it becomes a write off.
The 500€ number is arbitrary I think, accountants give different advices for similar purchases
If your a private person I wouldn’t be bothered to do it, if your a company its a bit more shady on your books but both scenarios are small white collar crimes and for such low numbers I wouldn’t worry too much about risk but depends on your morality. It’s definitely not equal to murder more like a petty crime