This is why in 1979 IBM said, “A computer can never be held accountable, therefore a computer must never make a management decision.”
jmanbam on
Start towing them and make the company pay to get them out.
ClashSavant on
Just don’t understand why PEs are held liable when they stamp designs but there isn’t an equivalent in the case of technology. It’s infuriating.
jakeupowens on
You absolutely can ticket a car that has no driver. You could tow it too. It’s registered and has a license plate, no? If a person stuck a brick on the gas pedal and let their car go through the market, the police wouldn’t suddenly say “oh well there was no driver so how can we possibly ticket anyone?” Give me a break.
arkansaslax on
Ticket the car? If Waymo can’t control their vehicles to operate within the bounds of law for driver operated vehicles then cease and desist right? Why are we so afraid of holding companies responsible for their products?
dallasdude on
So go to Waymo office and bring handcuffs
This isn’t complicated
If I built a robot that did crimes, I would go to jail. What’s different here
tc100292 on
But Waymo’s dipshit defenders will argue that the car was going slow so it’s okay because a human driver doing that would have, uh, probably not done that at all.
AlwaysRushesIn on
The red light camera doesn’t care who is drivong my car when it runs a red light. I still get the ticket.
TheDonnARK on
You fine the company via court.
PhoenixScorpion on
Use to drive for ups, all parking tickets from Denver went to ups, any license plate tickets went to ups, if you were dumb enough to get a speeding ticket that was on you, and was not worth losing your job or the trouble you were in if caught speeding to save the company time, so I never got a speeding ticket. But I got parking tickets, red light tickets, that sort of thing all the time. They even booted my truck once for unpaid parking tickets. The company made a deal to just send a check for a % of the tickets every once in a while.
thatirishguyyyyy on
The license plate is registered to somebody.
This is just the police being lazy again.
What the lawsuits fly!
MrSanford on
Somebody fuckin owns it
HurtFeeFeez on
Photo radar speeding tickets get issued to the vehicle’s registered owner. Seems like the same mechanism could be applied here.
Dismal_Guidance_2539 on
Can we stop this unnecessary conversation ?? Waymo got a lot of ticket in California and other states. This is solely a problem in Colorado. Just make a new law like any other state. That it.
iusedtohavepowers on
Weird. If I built something that did this in my back yard they’d have no trouble finding and ticketing me.
dope_sheet on
Ticket the people who made the car.
Buck_Folton on
Hey, if corporations are people…
mobocrat707 on
Sure, send the tickets to Waymo. They can afford it, it’s just the cost of doing business. We need real repercussions for these companies, not just a slap on the wrist and an article that will be forgotten in 2 days.
West-Abalone-171 on
The person who chose to put the software in charge of the car is responsible for what the car does.
“Crime + i did the crime with a convoluted tool = no crime” isn’t remotely coherent
BluehibiscusEmpire on
Someone pens the car. Seize the car till they post, if not too difficult
EwokNuggets on
I’d argue yes, you can ticket Waymo. And you ticket them HARD.
K_Linkmaster on
Yes there is. The owners are responsible. Charge the owners. If you want to get real specific, jail the company. The company is it’s board of directors. There ya go. It’s pretty easy
AnxiousReward1715 on
you cite the vehicle operator, in this case waymo…. then you stop and tow them all because a corporation can’t have a driver’s license so every one is being operated by an unlicensed driver… DUH If Waymo were a minority instead of a corporation there would have already been a no knock raid on a neighbors house 3 streets away where they killed a baby
gfxprotege on
Impound the car and then ticket whoever wants to pick it up
SuperDoubleDecker on
There’s no laws to punish corporations in general.
Appropriate_Log5389 on
Owner is the responsible party!!
divestblank on
Simple, ticket the CEO for every infraction.
TunaOnWytNoCrust on
Send a ticket to the person or entity that owns the registration for the vehicle. That vehicle is their responsibility and what it does is their fault.
DenverNugs on
>”Shame, shame, Colorado,” said Missy Cummings
Shame, shame, shame on you. I’d rather just ban the autonomous cars all together. I don’t care about another person becoming a billionaire. Waymo can get the fuck out of Denver.
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This is why in 1979 IBM said, “A computer can never be held accountable, therefore a computer must never make a management decision.”
Start towing them and make the company pay to get them out.
Just don’t understand why PEs are held liable when they stamp designs but there isn’t an equivalent in the case of technology. It’s infuriating.
You absolutely can ticket a car that has no driver. You could tow it too. It’s registered and has a license plate, no? If a person stuck a brick on the gas pedal and let their car go through the market, the police wouldn’t suddenly say “oh well there was no driver so how can we possibly ticket anyone?” Give me a break.
Ticket the car? If Waymo can’t control their vehicles to operate within the bounds of law for driver operated vehicles then cease and desist right? Why are we so afraid of holding companies responsible for their products?
So go to Waymo office and bring handcuffs
This isn’t complicated
If I built a robot that did crimes, I would go to jail. What’s different here
But Waymo’s dipshit defenders will argue that the car was going slow so it’s okay because a human driver doing that would have, uh, probably not done that at all.
The red light camera doesn’t care who is drivong my car when it runs a red light. I still get the ticket.
You fine the company via court.
Use to drive for ups, all parking tickets from Denver went to ups, any license plate tickets went to ups, if you were dumb enough to get a speeding ticket that was on you, and was not worth losing your job or the trouble you were in if caught speeding to save the company time, so I never got a speeding ticket. But I got parking tickets, red light tickets, that sort of thing all the time. They even booted my truck once for unpaid parking tickets. The company made a deal to just send a check for a % of the tickets every once in a while.
The license plate is registered to somebody.
This is just the police being lazy again.
What the lawsuits fly!
Somebody fuckin owns it
Photo radar speeding tickets get issued to the vehicle’s registered owner. Seems like the same mechanism could be applied here.
Can we stop this unnecessary conversation ?? Waymo got a lot of ticket in California and other states. This is solely a problem in Colorado. Just make a new law like any other state. That it.
Weird. If I built something that did this in my back yard they’d have no trouble finding and ticketing me.
Ticket the people who made the car.
Hey, if corporations are people…
Sure, send the tickets to Waymo. They can afford it, it’s just the cost of doing business. We need real repercussions for these companies, not just a slap on the wrist and an article that will be forgotten in 2 days.
The person who chose to put the software in charge of the car is responsible for what the car does.
“Crime + i did the crime with a convoluted tool = no crime” isn’t remotely coherent
Someone pens the car. Seize the car till they post, if not too difficult
I’d argue yes, you can ticket Waymo. And you ticket them HARD.
Yes there is. The owners are responsible. Charge the owners. If you want to get real specific, jail the company. The company is it’s board of directors. There ya go. It’s pretty easy
you cite the vehicle operator, in this case waymo…. then you stop and tow them all because a corporation can’t have a driver’s license so every one is being operated by an unlicensed driver… DUH If Waymo were a minority instead of a corporation there would have already been a no knock raid on a neighbors house 3 streets away where they killed a baby
Impound the car and then ticket whoever wants to pick it up
There’s no laws to punish corporations in general.
Owner is the responsible party!!
Simple, ticket the CEO for every infraction.
Send a ticket to the person or entity that owns the registration for the vehicle. That vehicle is their responsibility and what it does is their fault.
>”Shame, shame, Colorado,” said Missy Cummings
Shame, shame, shame on you. I’d rather just ban the autonomous cars all together. I don’t care about another person becoming a billionaire. Waymo can get the fuck out of Denver.