The current structure and scale is obviously not viable.
Heggy5 on
And they still have the balls to remove “offensive” shows from iPlayer this week.
I miss the days when business was business. Rather than the higher ups getting upset and blaming us for not wanting to pay for a TV licence.
Gremlin8181 on
I feel like for someone like me the BBC has been irrelevant for years now. I used to watch MOTD. Now watch football highlights on YT. Dont watch dance programmes, crime dramas, or soaps. Documentaries are better on YT these days. Used to watch old Top Gear but that went down the swanny. Maybe I’m a forty something dinosaur now lol. Still have to pay the TV licence though 🙄
thoughthesaintsdubus on
I sincerely hope they don’t mess with the world service and the international offerings – the soft power they provide would be irreversible if lost
GlancingBlame on
Yikes. No ads please. For all that is sacred, please, no ads.
Scary-Spinach1955 on
So when do we finally admit this current approach for funding is not working?
Never?
Alright cool. See you in a few months when they have to cut more things
No_Wolf4283 on
Slowly but surely being erased by the people who hate it and dont want it when its still the best broadcasting Corp in the worldÂ
Ridiculous its under attackÂ
ultraboomkin on
Split the BBC into public services and entertainment.
BBC Public Services can be funded by tax. It includes news and educational stuff. An independent news broadcaster is important, and a lot of the educational stuff is great for kids compared to YouTube brainrot.
BBC Entertainment can be run as a private company. It includes all the sports, reality TV, soap operas, dramas and whatever else. They can use ads, go to a subscription model, create new shows and cancel ones with low ratings. Run it however they see fit to stay profitable.
Reddit assures me that most people find the BBC highly valuable so I’m sure they won’t have trouble being a profitable company.
Charming_Storm_9937 on
even though it makes me laugh, bbc pidgin needs to go
FourthGroup on
America is just taking Britain apart piece by piece.
This is collateral damage.
mixxituk on
Id happily sub to a European YouTube, mail and social media alternative ran by the beeb
MunroeMuncher on
I would pay more for the BBC if it was a tax, Cbeebies etc was on all the time at my house when I was small as we had no pay TV and I want that for other people
Exxtraa on
I saw an article saying ministers were talking about putting the cost of tv license on to our broadband bills. Prob click bait but they can get to fuck with that idea right now.
LostTheGameOfThrones on
I really hope they don’t end up massively cutting the local radio services. BBC local radio stations consistently offer the best local sports coverage, especially for sports that aren’t televised.
flossgoat2 on
So short sighted to slowly strangle them of funding.
In spite of its flaws, it is a powerhouse for creative industries, developing new talent and sustaining independent production. So many jobs. So much global cultural influence.
On the one hand you have the right wing banging on about promoting culture and Britishness… Yet they want to destroy one of the main sources for positive modern British culture. Make it make sense.
Redvat on
They should consolidate into one channel. Original content is currently too thinly spread over multiple channels. One channel would reduce the need to run repeats.
RockTheBloat on
I bet they’re going to axe the things they should be doing and preserve the things that we don’t need them to do
joeyjiggle on
When they win 10 Billion USD from Trump, it should keep them going for a bit.
AlAlfa on
BBC 3 & 4 are a waste of time now and a money sink. They both used to be fantastic channels with the proper investment though.
Unlucky-Tale-3387 on
I wouldn’t even notice it reckon. I havent had an aerial plugged in for decades. And rarely listen to the actual broadcasted radio nowadays. I rarely ever see live tv round someone’s house too
I have a pc connected to my tv at home and its my media machine. Has access to everything id want and zero adverts on anything. Its all I need.
2breel on
The last few years have been absolutely awful for the BBC’s reputation. Greg Wallace, Scott Mills, Tim Westwood, Huw Edwards – and those are just the high profile cases. They had irreversible damage to deal with after Yew Tree and Saville and they clearly didn’t prioritise safe guarding after that. Horrendous to think that tax payers have funded the careers and later pensions of these horrible individuals.
2breel on
I see the “What has the BBC ever done for me?” campaign went well then.
Mediocre_East4644 on
Hopefully the dusty, desperado that is bbc one will get shut down and everything else, that has some cultural foresight (bbc radio 3, 4, 4
Extra, 6 music, bbc 2, bbc 4, regional etc), will be allowed to >!flourish? Way too many sports radio/dildo talk show stations.!<
Redhosky on
Just close their pretence at news and politics offerings and concentrate funds on entertainment and documentaries.
PlatJC on
The BBC doesn’t have enough content to compete against Netflix, Amazon, and so on. Convenient and on demand shows will always beat scheduled broadcasting in the world we live in, because we want things when we are able to consume them. I know not everybody feels this way, but a lot do.
The BBC has some great shows, it would be a shame to see them gutted but eventually I can binge them either on their social media pages, the shows own social media pages, or the DVD release. Yes, I know iPlayer exists, I’m referring to none BBC license methods.
BBC should be split as others have suggested. I’d hope that the children’s channels and educational content on their website get bundled into the tax paid public one, if it happened, and not the subscription model. BBCs children shows are 100% times better than Netflix and so on, as they are less stimulating and usually are about being good people. Feel like it should be free for the world.
Grand_Pop_7221 on
I don’t know why they can’t just expand internationally. Some of my family have moved abroad, and they can’t even get BBC content without piracy or third-party bullshit. They’d be happy to pay, but it isn’t available. So many funding avenues are being left off the table.
We don’t need to be paying Crapita over the odds to chase down grannies for their license fee. It’s not just emigrants who’d be willing to pay for what the BBC Entertainment arm has to offer.
UnspentGains on
Get rid of BBC TWO/BBC FOUR/BBC THREE channels, only have BBC One for entertainment/Docs, there isn’t enough content to warrant three channels now, and tbh never was, it was all repeats. Get rid of the pointless daytime TV stuff and broadcast BBC FOUR/TWO content then, people might then be more informed rather than what Celebrity x is doing this week. Most will watch what they want on iPlayer anyway, fixed broadcast times are old hat now with on-demand content readily available anytime.
There is so much replication of live paid presenters across the different radio stations like Jeremy Vine on Radio2, when you pretty much had the exact same thing running all morning with Nicky Campbell on Five Live, this is also the same across multiple BBC Radio outlets at different times of the day. Why there’s a phone-in on an easy listening music station at lunchtime still baffles me to this today.
The BBC RAJAR million figures are also very misleading, it only takes someone to listen for 5 minutes a week for it to register, and are not daily figures, so once you know that, it’s not so impressive at all.
Radio 1: 7.03m weekly – 267,000 at any given moment
Radio 2: 12.57m weekly – 792,000 at any given moment
Radio 3: 2.06m weekly – 96,000 at any given moment
Radio 4: 9.15m weekly – 643,000 at any given moment
5 Live: 5.36m weekly – 385,000 at any given moment
6 Music: 2.65m weekly – 183,000 at any given moment
Radio 1 & Radio 2, get rid of all the highly paid DJs to save ÂŁ10 million a year, and should seriously consider just having automated playout, controversial, I know, but most of the commercial music radio stations pretty much do this now, and they do it for a very good reason.
I will give you an example, driving into town the other day, I tried to listen to music on Radio 1 and Radio 2 and there was only ‘chat’ for the entire time, 40 minutes across the two stations, now, I know what folk will say, ‘do you not like listening to talk on the radio, is it not interesting to you?’, yes it would be, normally, and absolutely have all the music docs, special shows etc. in the evenings, but during the day while most people are driving in their cars, you tune into a music radio station for…wait for it…music! and not listening to overly paid presenters talking shite all day about their weekend and when they went to see Ed Sheeran in Leeds.
Radio 3 & 6 Music need to to axed with 5 Live maybe only having recorded sports content when there is no live Sports/Football on to save on overly expensive live presenters.
Radio 4 is the jewel in the crown of BBC Radio (World Service aside, that is not necessarily for a domestic audience, which is also excellent) should remain, their presenters cost around ÂŁ10 Million per annum but this is high quality news with well-informed presenters who are, in most cases journalists, and this should be the only place for phone-ins IMO.
Squidgical on
Reminder to cancel your TV license if you haven’t already
Any-Republic-4269 on
The big thing is to bridge that gap between the 95% of people using the BBC and the 80% of people paying for it. Basically how do you stop the freeloaders (hint: they aren’t simply listening to the radio and Netflix manages to limit watching Netflix to subscribers)
Stunning_Paper9540 on
I was a fan of the BBC until their unapologetic support of the genocidal isreali regime. now they can all go fuck right off. if your organization defends the murderers of a single child, never mind 20,000, your organization needs to be destroyed
Wooden_Alarm9529 on
That’s BBC 3 gone again… But not been the same since it was axed the first time
Asdam90 on
I heard they were considering removing away coverage from the local football radio teams, instead opting to play the home teams commentators only.
damhack on
Lets hope they don’t pollaxe the medium-wave transmitters or we’re all screwed if the Interwebs go down for a long time.
duvagin on
social conditioning and NLP has shifted to modern platforms, the BBC must adapt to the landscape
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The current structure and scale is obviously not viable.
And they still have the balls to remove “offensive” shows from iPlayer this week.
I miss the days when business was business. Rather than the higher ups getting upset and blaming us for not wanting to pay for a TV licence.
I feel like for someone like me the BBC has been irrelevant for years now. I used to watch MOTD. Now watch football highlights on YT. Dont watch dance programmes, crime dramas, or soaps. Documentaries are better on YT these days. Used to watch old Top Gear but that went down the swanny. Maybe I’m a forty something dinosaur now lol. Still have to pay the TV licence though 🙄
I sincerely hope they don’t mess with the world service and the international offerings – the soft power they provide would be irreversible if lost
Yikes. No ads please. For all that is sacred, please, no ads.
So when do we finally admit this current approach for funding is not working?
Never?
Alright cool. See you in a few months when they have to cut more things
Slowly but surely being erased by the people who hate it and dont want it when its still the best broadcasting Corp in the worldÂ
Ridiculous its under attackÂ
Split the BBC into public services and entertainment.
BBC Public Services can be funded by tax. It includes news and educational stuff. An independent news broadcaster is important, and a lot of the educational stuff is great for kids compared to YouTube brainrot.
BBC Entertainment can be run as a private company. It includes all the sports, reality TV, soap operas, dramas and whatever else. They can use ads, go to a subscription model, create new shows and cancel ones with low ratings. Run it however they see fit to stay profitable.
Reddit assures me that most people find the BBC highly valuable so I’m sure they won’t have trouble being a profitable company.
even though it makes me laugh, bbc pidgin needs to go
America is just taking Britain apart piece by piece.
This is collateral damage.
Id happily sub to a European YouTube, mail and social media alternative ran by the beeb
I would pay more for the BBC if it was a tax, Cbeebies etc was on all the time at my house when I was small as we had no pay TV and I want that for other people
I saw an article saying ministers were talking about putting the cost of tv license on to our broadband bills. Prob click bait but they can get to fuck with that idea right now.
I really hope they don’t end up massively cutting the local radio services. BBC local radio stations consistently offer the best local sports coverage, especially for sports that aren’t televised.
So short sighted to slowly strangle them of funding.
In spite of its flaws, it is a powerhouse for creative industries, developing new talent and sustaining independent production. So many jobs. So much global cultural influence.
On the one hand you have the right wing banging on about promoting culture and Britishness… Yet they want to destroy one of the main sources for positive modern British culture. Make it make sense.
They should consolidate into one channel. Original content is currently too thinly spread over multiple channels. One channel would reduce the need to run repeats.
I bet they’re going to axe the things they should be doing and preserve the things that we don’t need them to do
When they win 10 Billion USD from Trump, it should keep them going for a bit.
BBC 3 & 4 are a waste of time now and a money sink. They both used to be fantastic channels with the proper investment though.
I wouldn’t even notice it reckon. I havent had an aerial plugged in for decades. And rarely listen to the actual broadcasted radio nowadays. I rarely ever see live tv round someone’s house too
I have a pc connected to my tv at home and its my media machine. Has access to everything id want and zero adverts on anything. Its all I need.
The last few years have been absolutely awful for the BBC’s reputation. Greg Wallace, Scott Mills, Tim Westwood, Huw Edwards – and those are just the high profile cases. They had irreversible damage to deal with after Yew Tree and Saville and they clearly didn’t prioritise safe guarding after that. Horrendous to think that tax payers have funded the careers and later pensions of these horrible individuals.
I see the “What has the BBC ever done for me?” campaign went well then.
Hopefully the dusty, desperado that is bbc one will get shut down and everything else, that has some cultural foresight (bbc radio 3, 4, 4
Extra, 6 music, bbc 2, bbc 4, regional etc), will be allowed to >!flourish? Way too many sports radio/dildo talk show stations.!<
Just close their pretence at news and politics offerings and concentrate funds on entertainment and documentaries.
The BBC doesn’t have enough content to compete against Netflix, Amazon, and so on. Convenient and on demand shows will always beat scheduled broadcasting in the world we live in, because we want things when we are able to consume them. I know not everybody feels this way, but a lot do.
The BBC has some great shows, it would be a shame to see them gutted but eventually I can binge them either on their social media pages, the shows own social media pages, or the DVD release. Yes, I know iPlayer exists, I’m referring to none BBC license methods.
BBC should be split as others have suggested. I’d hope that the children’s channels and educational content on their website get bundled into the tax paid public one, if it happened, and not the subscription model. BBCs children shows are 100% times better than Netflix and so on, as they are less stimulating and usually are about being good people. Feel like it should be free for the world.
I don’t know why they can’t just expand internationally. Some of my family have moved abroad, and they can’t even get BBC content without piracy or third-party bullshit. They’d be happy to pay, but it isn’t available. So many funding avenues are being left off the table.
We don’t need to be paying Crapita over the odds to chase down grannies for their license fee. It’s not just emigrants who’d be willing to pay for what the BBC Entertainment arm has to offer.
Get rid of BBC TWO/BBC FOUR/BBC THREE channels, only have BBC One for entertainment/Docs, there isn’t enough content to warrant three channels now, and tbh never was, it was all repeats. Get rid of the pointless daytime TV stuff and broadcast BBC FOUR/TWO content then, people might then be more informed rather than what Celebrity x is doing this week. Most will watch what they want on iPlayer anyway, fixed broadcast times are old hat now with on-demand content readily available anytime.
There is so much replication of live paid presenters across the different radio stations like Jeremy Vine on Radio2, when you pretty much had the exact same thing running all morning with Nicky Campbell on Five Live, this is also the same across multiple BBC Radio outlets at different times of the day. Why there’s a phone-in on an easy listening music station at lunchtime still baffles me to this today.
The BBC RAJAR million figures are also very misleading, it only takes someone to listen for 5 minutes a week for it to register, and are not daily figures, so once you know that, it’s not so impressive at all.
Radio 1: 7.03m weekly – 267,000 at any given moment
Radio 2: 12.57m weekly – 792,000 at any given moment
Radio 3: 2.06m weekly – 96,000 at any given moment
Radio 4: 9.15m weekly – 643,000 at any given moment
5 Live: 5.36m weekly – 385,000 at any given moment
6 Music: 2.65m weekly – 183,000 at any given moment
Radio 1 & Radio 2, get rid of all the highly paid DJs to save ÂŁ10 million a year, and should seriously consider just having automated playout, controversial, I know, but most of the commercial music radio stations pretty much do this now, and they do it for a very good reason.
I will give you an example, driving into town the other day, I tried to listen to music on Radio 1 and Radio 2 and there was only ‘chat’ for the entire time, 40 minutes across the two stations, now, I know what folk will say, ‘do you not like listening to talk on the radio, is it not interesting to you?’, yes it would be, normally, and absolutely have all the music docs, special shows etc. in the evenings, but during the day while most people are driving in their cars, you tune into a music radio station for…wait for it…music! and not listening to overly paid presenters talking shite all day about their weekend and when they went to see Ed Sheeran in Leeds.
Radio 3 & 6 Music need to to axed with 5 Live maybe only having recorded sports content when there is no live Sports/Football on to save on overly expensive live presenters.
Radio 4 is the jewel in the crown of BBC Radio (World Service aside, that is not necessarily for a domestic audience, which is also excellent) should remain, their presenters cost around ÂŁ10 Million per annum but this is high quality news with well-informed presenters who are, in most cases journalists, and this should be the only place for phone-ins IMO.
Reminder to cancel your TV license if you haven’t already
The big thing is to bridge that gap between the 95% of people using the BBC and the 80% of people paying for it. Basically how do you stop the freeloaders (hint: they aren’t simply listening to the radio and Netflix manages to limit watching Netflix to subscribers)
I was a fan of the BBC until their unapologetic support of the genocidal isreali regime. now they can all go fuck right off. if your organization defends the murderers of a single child, never mind 20,000, your organization needs to be destroyed
That’s BBC 3 gone again… But not been the same since it was axed the first time
I heard they were considering removing away coverage from the local football radio teams, instead opting to play the home teams commentators only.
Lets hope they don’t pollaxe the medium-wave transmitters or we’re all screwed if the Interwebs go down for a long time.
social conditioning and NLP has shifted to modern platforms, the BBC must adapt to the landscape