Economic ignorance is very bad in a leader; autocratic aspirations are worse. So it’s weird to think, given how much autocratic aspiration the president has gotten away with, that it’s his simple economic ignorance that now seems far more likely to sink his political project. Americans, who pride themselves on their allergy to tyrants, proved willing to put up with astonishing amounts of would-be tyranny from a president who tried to steal an election, who has tried to prosecute his political enemies, who has inhaled vast sums of corrupt money in America and around the world, who has deliberately turned America into a global leader of economic shakedowns. But we draw the line, apparently, when gas and grocery prices go up.
Aware_Cheesecake_519 on
Trump is ignoring this.
MaximumEffort433 on
In 2024 Democrats campaigned *hard* on the notion that American democracy was on the line, that we couldn’t let an insurrectionist felon and his enablers have control of the federal government again…
…but people were too caught up in the price of eggs to care about any of that, so now we’ve got fascism *and* high gas prices, a real double whammy.
75,019,230 of us showed up to try to protect our democracy in 2024, hopefully even more will show up in 2026 and 2028 now that people know what’s at stake.
Rotanen on
Those who would give up essential liberty to attain a little cheap gas will have neither liberty nor cheap gas.
stvlsn on
It’s shockingly true.
Trump *openly* tried to steal an election in 2020. He was re elected in 2024.
But – gas prices go up? Trump’s approval hits a historic low.
Americans are so dumb
WhatIsEvenRealDog on
Most people don’t care until it personally affects them.
MaximumNameDensity on
I’m not thrilled there are thousands of my fellow citizens who are only upset because it’s now directly affecting them.
But if that’s what gets them to the ballot box, I’ll take it.
Whose hand is this? Is it an AI hand? It doesn’t look real
noprophecies on
Well yeah, even the Founding Fathers knew this. Its not a uniquly american thing.: “Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and, accordingly, all experience has shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security” -declaration of independance
SgtBagels12 on
They were made dumb by decades of propaganda, cuts to education, and a deliberate decrease in people’s attention and what they find important. They are responsible, but so is the Government.
BasicPerson23 on
Yeah, no shit. They don’t care about anything but their cost of living.
kstargate-425 on
This from the “dOnT tReAd On Me” Tea party too lol
TheShipEliza on
Yes. Ppl dont care until things affect them. It isnt a but. It is a feature.
GarbagePailGrrrl on
So does every publication post their own stories now?
Mess
1_________________11 on
Duh bread and circuses.
downtofinance on
Replace “Prices” with “Cost” and you could use the same headline for the Boston Tea Party.
Grouchy-Click-2507 on
“It’s the economy, stupid.”
sexisdivine on
Terry Pratchett really called it.
knowingmonster on
Can’t be tyranny if white Americans the settlers are acting the way they always been.
MatthewUnplugged on
It will always be the economy, stupid. We waste so much time on everything else and lose when it’s really very simple.
Fritschya on
It’s the economy stupid
Constant_Flamingo828 on
There is a significant part of America that hates the idea of democracy. They have always wanted a dictatorship. As long as it’s their dictator.
Stimbes on
Because tyranny hurts the groups of people MAGA hates. Rising prices hurts MAGA.
ISuckAtFunny on
Tyranny didn’t affect them.
High prices do.
7figureipo on
They don’t view it as tyranny, because they’re dumb, mentally ill cultists.
RomanBlue_ on
Yeah but that’s thing – and this is why I think education is important – democracy isn’t just an ideal or an abstract idea, and if it is to most people, then it has already died.
The reason why you don’t want tyranny is precisely because it can lead to bad stuff happening for most people – because the people with power aren’t accountable to most people. Such as high prices because the people in charge use the economy for their own power instead of to help you.
That isn’t to say shared prosperity and democracy automatically happen, but you want some sort of government and institutions that tries to be inclusive and accounts for most people.
You support democracy because a healthy democracy with healthy institutions can create a healthy economy that helps to support most people. It’s a failure in civics education to just teach that democracy is just about who you vote for, who you “like” and one day of a year where you stand in line at a ballot box, or treat it as some sort of celebrity sport. Democracy is a culture, its a way of life, a set of institutions, that all together accounts for an opportunity for everyone to benefit through creating a cohesive social order together.
In a sense, the inability to tolerate rising prices and the sense that people are cheating you, anger at inequality and more, the feeling that your life should be better cared for, that IS democracy and that IS opposition to tyranny.
Angry_Foamy on
America is a country without values or morals.
AlexDaGreatful on
…As if cost of living isn’t one of the everyday ways political tyranny is typically felt by a populace? Weird false dichotomy. The prices are part of the oppression: He’s setting up for a permanent underclass.
Otherwise-Green3067 on
Yup… America summed up in a sentence
irespondwithmyface on
Yes, Capitalism…
XcuseMeMisISpeakJive on
Yes, it’s always the economy. Always.
stickscall on
Yes. This.
It’s incredibly revealing that you’re living through an historic collapse of American institutions, and the Democrats are either talking about the price of gas in the center or the price of healthcare on the left.
There’s nobody out here talking about democracy and American values. Those are fucking loser issues.
VocationalWizard on
Yup
alien88 on
After 9/11 Bush told Americans to “get down to Disney world” as an act of defiance against terrorism. This country has zero civic spirit anymore, it all eroded away as the country deindustrialized and the finanicialization of the nation took hold.
For about 40+ years the citizens of this country equate freedom with their freedom to consume unimpeded. One could argue it’s one of the few freedoms this country even still has. The last thing that Americans can equate with a “good life” is now being stripped away, so of course people are going to lose their minds. It also happened during the covid non-lockdown. People suddenly couldn’t go to Applebees and suddenly they’ve lost their sense of self and went crazy. So it’s not surprising that rising costs stemming from self inflicted failed policies is what’s making Trump mega unpopular.
meaniemeanie-poo-poo on
Are you surprised?
I am not.
zirwin_KC on
I mean, the whole start of the American revolution WAS mostly stoked by high taxes….
q_j- on
One byproduct of American capitalism is that money is our god. Always has been. It is the common denominator across all sexes, races, religions, whatever. It permeates every aspect of our lives.
opelui22 on
That’s the sad thing, in America it’s all about the selfish me. Me, myself, and I. What happens to ME. Sadly everywhere else in the world it’s about selflessness and service to each other. That’s why a single payer system here can’t get any traction because the same response is, “why should I pay for ____”. It’s sad and the selfishness is leading many down the path of destruction as Jesus talks about. A big part why Trump did so well with his supporters to start with because he talked about their selfish desires.
aggressive_tie_667 on
People keep telling me that there’s a limit to MAGAtS’ stupidity even as they’re actively being proven wrong. The limit does not exist. They would rather die than admit to being wrong.
ceej_22_ on
Yup been preaching it for years. Common theme at the end of his first term “he’s an asshole but my 401k and bank account are doing great.” They only care about themselves, their bank account, their mortgage, their health, their comfort, and their feelings and then expect everyone to care about them when they come on hard times.
Silent_Swing4673 on
Hare to break it to the author. It’s been that way for a long time.
jewboy916 on
I mean isn’t that pretty much true in most “tyrannical” countries? It’s easy to just Netflix and chill and block out the noise if you’re fed, clothed, and housed.
octatone on
Americans on the whole are pathologically self-centered. As a group they have not cared about kids in cages, deportations to Africa, abortion, gay/human rights, climate change, you name it. If it doesn’t affect them personally, they simply do not give a shit. America is devoid of empathy and compassion full stop. They hide behind Christianity as if that absolves them of their selfishness.
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Economic ignorance is very bad in a leader; autocratic aspirations are worse. So it’s weird to think, given how much autocratic aspiration the president has gotten away with, that it’s his simple economic ignorance that now seems far more likely to sink his political project. Americans, who pride themselves on their allergy to tyrants, proved willing to put up with astonishing amounts of would-be tyranny from a president who tried to steal an election, who has tried to prosecute his political enemies, who has inhaled vast sums of corrupt money in America and around the world, who has deliberately turned America into a global leader of economic shakedowns. But we draw the line, apparently, when gas and grocery prices go up.
Trump is ignoring this.
In 2024 Democrats campaigned *hard* on the notion that American democracy was on the line, that we couldn’t let an insurrectionist felon and his enablers have control of the federal government again…
…but people were too caught up in the price of eggs to care about any of that, so now we’ve got fascism *and* high gas prices, a real double whammy.
75,019,230 of us showed up to try to protect our democracy in 2024, hopefully even more will show up in 2026 and 2028 now that people know what’s at stake.
Those who would give up essential liberty to attain a little cheap gas will have neither liberty nor cheap gas.
It’s shockingly true.
Trump *openly* tried to steal an election in 2020. He was re elected in 2024.
But – gas prices go up? Trump’s approval hits a historic low.
Americans are so dumb
Most people don’t care until it personally affects them.
I’m not thrilled there are thousands of my fellow citizens who are only upset because it’s now directly affecting them.
But if that’s what gets them to the ballot box, I’ll take it.
[Nixon knew this over half a century ago.](https://youtu.be/wXbuiTrnqXY?is=uCb_QD4GpaoRTU1a)
Whose hand is this? Is it an AI hand? It doesn’t look real
Well yeah, even the Founding Fathers knew this. Its not a uniquly american thing.: “Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and, accordingly, all experience has shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security” -declaration of independance
They were made dumb by decades of propaganda, cuts to education, and a deliberate decrease in people’s attention and what they find important. They are responsible, but so is the Government.
Yeah, no shit. They don’t care about anything but their cost of living.
This from the “dOnT tReAd On Me” Tea party too lol
Yes. Ppl dont care until things affect them. It isnt a but. It is a feature.
So does every publication post their own stories now?
Mess
Duh bread and circuses.
Replace “Prices” with “Cost” and you could use the same headline for the Boston Tea Party.
“It’s the economy, stupid.”
Terry Pratchett really called it.
Can’t be tyranny if white Americans the settlers are acting the way they always been.
It will always be the economy, stupid. We waste so much time on everything else and lose when it’s really very simple.
It’s the economy stupid
There is a significant part of America that hates the idea of democracy. They have always wanted a dictatorship. As long as it’s their dictator.
Because tyranny hurts the groups of people MAGA hates. Rising prices hurts MAGA.
Tyranny didn’t affect them.
High prices do.
They don’t view it as tyranny, because they’re dumb, mentally ill cultists.
Yeah but that’s thing – and this is why I think education is important – democracy isn’t just an ideal or an abstract idea, and if it is to most people, then it has already died.
The reason why you don’t want tyranny is precisely because it can lead to bad stuff happening for most people – because the people with power aren’t accountable to most people. Such as high prices because the people in charge use the economy for their own power instead of to help you.
That isn’t to say shared prosperity and democracy automatically happen, but you want some sort of government and institutions that tries to be inclusive and accounts for most people.
You support democracy because a healthy democracy with healthy institutions can create a healthy economy that helps to support most people. It’s a failure in civics education to just teach that democracy is just about who you vote for, who you “like” and one day of a year where you stand in line at a ballot box, or treat it as some sort of celebrity sport. Democracy is a culture, its a way of life, a set of institutions, that all together accounts for an opportunity for everyone to benefit through creating a cohesive social order together.
In a sense, the inability to tolerate rising prices and the sense that people are cheating you, anger at inequality and more, the feeling that your life should be better cared for, that IS democracy and that IS opposition to tyranny.
America is a country without values or morals.
…As if cost of living isn’t one of the everyday ways political tyranny is typically felt by a populace? Weird false dichotomy. The prices are part of the oppression: He’s setting up for a permanent underclass.
Yup… America summed up in a sentence
Yes, Capitalism…
Yes, it’s always the economy. Always.
Yes. This.
It’s incredibly revealing that you’re living through an historic collapse of American institutions, and the Democrats are either talking about the price of gas in the center or the price of healthcare on the left.
There’s nobody out here talking about democracy and American values. Those are fucking loser issues.
Yup
After 9/11 Bush told Americans to “get down to Disney world” as an act of defiance against terrorism. This country has zero civic spirit anymore, it all eroded away as the country deindustrialized and the finanicialization of the nation took hold.
For about 40+ years the citizens of this country equate freedom with their freedom to consume unimpeded. One could argue it’s one of the few freedoms this country even still has. The last thing that Americans can equate with a “good life” is now being stripped away, so of course people are going to lose their minds. It also happened during the covid non-lockdown. People suddenly couldn’t go to Applebees and suddenly they’ve lost their sense of self and went crazy. So it’s not surprising that rising costs stemming from self inflicted failed policies is what’s making Trump mega unpopular.
Are you surprised?
I am not.
I mean, the whole start of the American revolution WAS mostly stoked by high taxes….
One byproduct of American capitalism is that money is our god. Always has been. It is the common denominator across all sexes, races, religions, whatever. It permeates every aspect of our lives.
That’s the sad thing, in America it’s all about the selfish me. Me, myself, and I. What happens to ME. Sadly everywhere else in the world it’s about selflessness and service to each other. That’s why a single payer system here can’t get any traction because the same response is, “why should I pay for ____”. It’s sad and the selfishness is leading many down the path of destruction as Jesus talks about. A big part why Trump did so well with his supporters to start with because he talked about their selfish desires.
People keep telling me that there’s a limit to MAGAtS’ stupidity even as they’re actively being proven wrong. The limit does not exist. They would rather die than admit to being wrong.
Yup been preaching it for years. Common theme at the end of his first term “he’s an asshole but my 401k and bank account are doing great.” They only care about themselves, their bank account, their mortgage, their health, their comfort, and their feelings and then expect everyone to care about them when they come on hard times.
Hare to break it to the author. It’s been that way for a long time.
I mean isn’t that pretty much true in most “tyrannical” countries? It’s easy to just Netflix and chill and block out the noise if you’re fed, clothed, and housed.
Americans on the whole are pathologically self-centered. As a group they have not cared about kids in cages, deportations to Africa, abortion, gay/human rights, climate change, you name it. If it doesn’t affect them personally, they simply do not give a shit. America is devoid of empathy and compassion full stop. They hide behind Christianity as if that absolves them of their selfishness.