Meh, of course there are protests. It’s a nothing-burger.
Weirdo9495 on
Good. I think Germany has a large enough population that it should do fine enough with professionals. And the male-only draft and should never see its full implementation. Constitution should be changed before it is ever mandatory to do a full draft of a generation. And in general politics should stop sidelining and ignoring young people to the extent it does if it wants to ask for their service like this.
Good to see young women organising this and taking part too – the real divide is between young people and the government, not men and women.
jajebivjetar on
Who is not ready to fight for freedom does not deserve freedom.
ChimeMeUp on
Classic mods, deleting the thread with 100 comments and keeping this one up
No_Feature_1184 on
ah yes the ‘Why die for Danzig/Plutot Hitler que le Front populaire’ crowd. Why take any measures when we can appease the fascists?
Talkjar on
Putin approves
sourflavouronice on
As I said before (and as I have been accused of being pro Russian), absolutely nobody from Western Europe will be appear for military service. The moment the back and forth talk from Western Europe about Russia aligns with Erdoğan’s subservience to the West, Turks may find themselves facing a path to death in Eastern Europe. And all to protect those who hate Turks and Turkey. That is why the average Turkish citizen must be extremely vigilant.
Kornaros on
Θα πηξ λα μουν…
Amadey on
oh my sweet summer child
zam0s on
They are fine with ukrainians dyeing but not them
merount1 on
“We are restricting your social media, you have to pay for our pensions, you have to accept immigrants, you have to start working more, oh and btw you have to serve in the army.”
Yeah I wonder why they aren’t excited.
atomymcmanus on
Germany may suck for them, they’re not wrong to think that way. But, wait till they let Russia hammer them like they’re doing to Ukraine…
FlavorChamp on
Idiots.
Technicalforest on
I don’t know if there’s an english word or term for it, but in swedish there’s a term called “fredsskadad”. Pretty much “damaged by peace”. The idea or paradox that because of the wonder and beauty of long term peace and stability, which in turn exists thanks to older generations having to fight for it, people are now in denial about conflict and reality of war, and unwilling to defend the beautiful and rare peace and democracy that they have and that people once shed blood for.
danisindeedfat on
I got downvoted to hell for saying “enjoy your compulsory military service” to all the European celebrating my countries withdrawing from natoz. I. Told. You. So.
CrayonEatingBabyApe on
If Dirk Nowitzki can be conscripted and preform his mandatory military service. These stupid college kids can too.
TianZiGaming on
So far, the law is only for voluntary service; they should wait to see how many people sign up. Politicians should build up the country in a way that people want to fight for the country. If they did a good job, they should get enough volunteers.
MasterD_22 on
They can go and fuck themselves with their idiotic lives in comfort zone. Poor shaky flowers. Until a dictator’s army knock on their parent’s homes and take them to die. Without any fighting.
Far-Iron-4281 on
This is Russia’s huge advantage over Europe.
Rockaroller- on
Europe spent decades shitting on Germany identity and pride after World War 2. Its hard to motivate individuals to fight the nebulous concept of state. When you spent decades dismantling it for the very fear that Germany would become a threat again. Its only being a whole country for less than 40 years.
butternutflies on
People aren’t patriotic because they’re too comfortable. People aren’t patriotic because there’s nothing really worthy of fighting for anymore.
Great, so let’s all go bleed on a battlefield for a while just so we can go back to..…let’s see..…ah yes, to an overpriced rented apartment, to paying back massive student loans, to a shitty job market, to living paycheck to paycheck… Yeah, how enticing…
There’s a reason they keep copy/pasting the “You’ll own nothing and you’ll be happy”, because that’s the world young people are forced to live in. Can’t really fucking blame them…
RayCumfartTheFirst on
Happy to send mountains of weapons and cash to a country to forcibly mobilize its population, but doesn’t want to mobilize themselves. What fucking hypocrisy.
SubjectBubbly9072 on
Trump is clapping his hands rn
wanghuli on
Try picketing at redsquare. I dont think Ukraine tried that one yet
ZeroLow on
We need soldiers to defend Germany. Our chancellor just isn’t very good at explaining that to students. Otherwise, I’m sure they’d all be thrilled to fight for him and the nation.
Icy-Personality-511 on
Send the new Europeans 🥱
TheGalator on
Wouldn’t even be that mad about draft if it wasn’t sending people to die based on whats in their pants
Equality looks different
Radiant_Client1458 on
Unironically there is nothing worth dying for in modern Europe.
When Germans are going to be a minority in Germany by the end of your lifetime what are you fighting to protect?
Cringsix on
Maybe AFD will shut it down.
CliodynCycwatch on
Either produce brilliant geo-politicians who can effectively disincentivize gangster states Russia, China & Iran from aggression, or have a military that can project FUGGEDABOUTIT.
More realistically, best to have the right mix of both the above.
Embarrassed-Log-9628 on
What did you expect when the allied powers thoroughly removed the German will to fight from the psyche of the people?
Is Woden still in there?
noatoms on
Young people don’t feel represented, the odds are stacked against them economically, it’s hard for them to get a start in life. I understand why they don’t want to fight for the system that just calls on them to be cannon fodder.
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Meh, of course there are protests. It’s a nothing-burger.
Good. I think Germany has a large enough population that it should do fine enough with professionals. And the male-only draft and should never see its full implementation. Constitution should be changed before it is ever mandatory to do a full draft of a generation. And in general politics should stop sidelining and ignoring young people to the extent it does if it wants to ask for their service like this.
Good to see young women organising this and taking part too – the real divide is between young people and the government, not men and women.
Who is not ready to fight for freedom does not deserve freedom.
Classic mods, deleting the thread with 100 comments and keeping this one up
ah yes the ‘Why die for Danzig/Plutot Hitler que le Front populaire’ crowd. Why take any measures when we can appease the fascists?
Putin approves
As I said before (and as I have been accused of being pro Russian), absolutely nobody from Western Europe will be appear for military service. The moment the back and forth talk from Western Europe about Russia aligns with Erdoğan’s subservience to the West, Turks may find themselves facing a path to death in Eastern Europe. And all to protect those who hate Turks and Turkey. That is why the average Turkish citizen must be extremely vigilant.
Θα πηξ λα μουν…
oh my sweet summer child
They are fine with ukrainians dyeing but not them
“We are restricting your social media, you have to pay for our pensions, you have to accept immigrants, you have to start working more, oh and btw you have to serve in the army.”
Yeah I wonder why they aren’t excited.
Germany may suck for them, they’re not wrong to think that way. But, wait till they let Russia hammer them like they’re doing to Ukraine…
Idiots.
I don’t know if there’s an english word or term for it, but in swedish there’s a term called “fredsskadad”. Pretty much “damaged by peace”. The idea or paradox that because of the wonder and beauty of long term peace and stability, which in turn exists thanks to older generations having to fight for it, people are now in denial about conflict and reality of war, and unwilling to defend the beautiful and rare peace and democracy that they have and that people once shed blood for.
I got downvoted to hell for saying “enjoy your compulsory military service” to all the European celebrating my countries withdrawing from natoz. I. Told. You. So.
If Dirk Nowitzki can be conscripted and preform his mandatory military service. These stupid college kids can too.
So far, the law is only for voluntary service; they should wait to see how many people sign up. Politicians should build up the country in a way that people want to fight for the country. If they did a good job, they should get enough volunteers.
They can go and fuck themselves with their idiotic lives in comfort zone. Poor shaky flowers. Until a dictator’s army knock on their parent’s homes and take them to die. Without any fighting.
This is Russia’s huge advantage over Europe.
Europe spent decades shitting on Germany identity and pride after World War 2. Its hard to motivate individuals to fight the nebulous concept of state. When you spent decades dismantling it for the very fear that Germany would become a threat again. Its only being a whole country for less than 40 years.
People aren’t patriotic because they’re too comfortable. People aren’t patriotic because there’s nothing really worthy of fighting for anymore.
Great, so let’s all go bleed on a battlefield for a while just so we can go back to..…let’s see..…ah yes, to an overpriced rented apartment, to paying back massive student loans, to a shitty job market, to living paycheck to paycheck… Yeah, how enticing…
There’s a reason they keep copy/pasting the “You’ll own nothing and you’ll be happy”, because that’s the world young people are forced to live in. Can’t really fucking blame them…
Happy to send mountains of weapons and cash to a country to forcibly mobilize its population, but doesn’t want to mobilize themselves. What fucking hypocrisy.
Trump is clapping his hands rn
Try picketing at redsquare. I dont think Ukraine tried that one yet
We need soldiers to defend Germany. Our chancellor just isn’t very good at explaining that to students. Otherwise, I’m sure they’d all be thrilled to fight for him and the nation.
Send the new Europeans 🥱
Wouldn’t even be that mad about draft if it wasn’t sending people to die based on whats in their pants
Equality looks different
Unironically there is nothing worth dying for in modern Europe.
When Germans are going to be a minority in Germany by the end of your lifetime what are you fighting to protect?
Maybe AFD will shut it down.
Either produce brilliant geo-politicians who can effectively disincentivize gangster states Russia, China & Iran from aggression, or have a military that can project FUGGEDABOUTIT.
More realistically, best to have the right mix of both the above.
What did you expect when the allied powers thoroughly removed the German will to fight from the psyche of the people?
Is Woden still in there?
Young people don’t feel represented, the odds are stacked against them economically, it’s hard for them to get a start in life. I understand why they don’t want to fight for the system that just calls on them to be cannon fodder.