>Convicted child killer [Shane Ertmoed](https://globalnews.ca/tag/shane-ertmoed), who is serving a life sentence, has been granted a 60-day unescorted temporary absence from prison to take cooking classes.
Too dangerous to parole. But letting him go free for 60 days is ok? wtaf
NoPantsSantaClaus on
She was 10.
calgeobar on
Who thought this was a good idea?…we used to be a serious nation.
keiths31 on
Sickening
Kills a child and gets to take cooking classes.
comox on
Sickening.
Clean_Sugar_7445 on
Cooking classes? He can learn to cook at Club William Head!
CoolstorySteve on
“The Parole Board acknowledges the seriousness of Ertmoed’s crime and his history of sexual behaviour involving children, but stated he has made progress in treatment, has been taking medication to reduce sexual arousal, and has completed previous escorted temporary absences without concern.”
Batshit insane
Never_51 on
He raped and murdered a ten year old girl. Why should he be allowed to have or do anything?
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bugabooandtwo on
He can take cooking classes in the prison kitchen.
lanAstbury on
I thought prison was supposed to be a form of punishment, not an opportunity for extended periods of unescorted leave and cooking classes. At some point, we have to ask whether sentences still carry any meaningful sense of accountability or consequence for the most serious crimes.
Horvo on
Certain crimes should have some Old Testament punishments.
Houserichmoneypoor on
The date was postponed, maybe the red seal chef he’s supposed to work with said “fuck this!”
Spyrothedragon9972 on
Disgusting
En4cr on
This kind of thing makes my blood boil. Crimes involving women & children should have zero leniency.
The judge who granted the leave has failed in every possible way. Who’s gonna be responsible for public safety with this scumbag on the loose, not to mention the family of the victim. The universe really needs to step in.
jellybean122333 on
C’mon. Besides the obvious, why should he get this training while non-prisoners don’t have the same opportunity? Is he paying for it?
Avelion2 on
Shouldn’t a program like this be a reward for model prisoners convicted of lesser crimes.
Yychoffner on
So he was denied a year ago because he was unfit, now a year later is magically better cause he’s medicated and can be out for 60 days? He didn’t commit a minor thing he kid a child!
charitelle on
He assulted and murdered a child. And This Canadian justice is having th socity pays for: A community living residential facility under 24-hour supervision (!!! Really. and the cost is?) and a job four-and-a-half hours a day, five-days-a-week with a Red Seal Chef; and counselling and other rehabilitation programs.
In the meantime, familys of the victim don’t get anything And sick people who live on the street, who arent’ criminal, don’t get lodging, a job or counselling and rehabilitation or any help.
Canadian ‘Justice’ is just so insane.
CreamySmegmaOnToast on
Who’s paying for this?
majamin on
> 10-year-old girl who was sexually assaulted and murdered
Heather:
* Will never get to have friends
* Won’t ever graduate high school
* Will never get to sing, cook, dance, nothing
This government, our judicial system:
> Let’s give this evil, sadistic monster, not only the ability to eat and breathe and walk around, but cooking classes out there in our community.
I am so ashamed of this system, the people that run it. What kind of evil do you have to be to think that this is ok?
thatgirl555 on
If hes in prison for life why does he even need to take cooking classes… its not like he is ever going to be cooking for people.. dude cant even get parole. He doesnt need to learn how to be a fancy chef.
Goodoflife on
This should only be for people who dismissed crimes, such as theft, etc, with Ankle Monitor supervision so that the offender cannot go into any property nor near any playgrounds.
Acrobatic-Glass6517 on
Crazy. I spent 3 months trapped in jury duty for this guy. He was completely unrepentant and in his allowed statement after being sentenced stood up and claimed he was innocent and being railroaded. Despite us being forced by the defence lawyer to listen to his video recorded weekend in jail ad nauseam, culminating in a confession complete with details about the event that were not released to the public. And this was without hearing some of the stuff that was judged too prejudicial to allow in court, such as that he had gotten into the same bed as a child that his then girlfriend was babysitting, or that he had confided to a therapist that he had urges involving children.
Utterly unrepentant.
coffeeinthecity on
>According to a Sept. 2 Parole Board of Canada decision, Shane Robert Ertmoed – convicted of first-degree murder in connection with the Oct. 1, 2000 death of Heather Thomas – applied for the UTA “for personal development for rehabilitative purposes.”
>Following a hearing, the board concluded he “will not pose an undue risk” of reoffending; a conclusion the case management team did not agree with.
>“Their view is that your risk cannot be managed safely on the proposed UTA,” the 11-page decision notes.
>The team pointed out that employment issues “were not a contributing factor in your offending and cooking skills do not align with your long-term goal to work as a plumber.”
Back to jail. WTF is going on with this. How can Reddit users help the family?
PlaneGoFlyFly on
Absolutely insane. Have someone go to the prison to teach cooking classes. Don’t let violent sexual offenders of 10 year old children out unsupervised for up to 60 days! What are we doing?!
Why does this even need to be said?!
Edit: read the article too quickly. He will be in a facility with 24 hour supervision
stop_banning_me_tx on
Every time I read something like this I become more open to capital punishment.
Aranxi_89 on
If he victimizes another child, or worse…
The blood is on that judge’s hands too.
BaronVonUberMeister on
How on earth is is justified that someone who took the life of a 10 year old, after sexually assaulting her, is even allowed to see the light of day?
master0jack on
This sounds absolutely insane to me. What are we even doing? This person raped and murdered a CHILD and we are giving them a 60 day leave to do COOKING CLASSES? What about these poor parents who have suffered in the jail of living without their child and knowing what a terrible end of life she had at his hands? They have a life sentence. I always tell my husband that if something happened to our child, I wouldn’t be able to continue on unless we had others I needed to stay for. I can’t imagine anything worse, there would be nothing worse than losing your child.
Imo, for cases like this bring back the death penalty. As a parent I felt crimes like this were reprehensible before kids, now that I have and am around a child 24/7 and have a first hand understanding of truly how vulnerable and innocent they are (I understood this before, but somehow I understand it even more now??), anybody who hurts a child deserves prison without release. Rape and murder? Death. There is no rehabilitating somebody who could harm such an innocent, vulnerable being. Fucking disgusting.
EhMapleMoose on
To take cooking classes???
Jumpforjoy1122 on
4 hours a day “working” with a Red Seal Chef…..what will he be doing for the rest of the day? Is this a cooking class that you have to pay for? This is ridiculous. So many questions…..
chuckmasterflexnoris on
This is absolutely unacceptable. I hope the people that made this decision lose their positions. They clearly cannot be trusted with the responsibility.
There must be thousands of young students that have not raped and murdered a child that would love the opportunity to learn from a red seal chef and may not be able to afford such and opportunity
What the fuck are we even doing anymore? Who is paying for this and how do we remove people from these positions when they cannot make simple common sense desicions that are in the best interest of the public?.
dahabit on
What am I reading? A convicted killer gets to go cooking with a red seal chef? What a fkn joke. I hope he dies on the way.
Few_Boysenberry_1321 on
Why do we have parole boards making decisions like this?
I really want to know how we got to this place where parole boards repeatedly make decisions that almost no person agrees with.
Isn’t all of government in a democracy supposed to serve the people and be set up in a way that most people support?
lemasei on
I bet the 10 year old he assaulted and murdered would have loved to take a class. Any class. School. Being a kid. Growing up…going to post secondary. He should rot in a windowless cell.
ashrules901 on
Imagine putting the teacher and other participants in that class through the trauma of working alongside a convicted child killer.
Couldn’t be a modern, just, and educated justice system like ours in Canada. Oh wait.
ChartBetter on
The absolute rage this headline gave me. My heart goes out to the family of the victim. What a disgrace our correctional system is.
GeriatricNeopet on
There is also a child killer on a 60 day unescorted leave from his life sentence in Victoria Bc as well. The victims family has Been warning us in local communities on Facebook.
PUBLIC SAFETY WARNING: Convicted Child Killer Transferred to British Columbia
Please share this to warn families, parents, and community groups across BC.
Douglas Floyd Lambier was convicted of second-degree murder for the horrifying 2005 smothering death of 9-year-old Brandon Burchell in Windsor, Ontario. He also has a prior criminal record involving the sexual assault of children.
He was quietly transferred from Ontario to a federal institution in BC in Victoria at William Head Institution because he requested to be transferred as people do not know him our his history . On Friday, September 11, he was denied full parole because he remains too dangerous—but he was granted a 60-day Unescorted Temporary Absence (UTA) to complete a program in the community.
This means he is currently living outside prison walls at a community facility/treatment centre @ the Salvation Army in Victora BC without physical guards. While he is legally barred from being near schools, parks, and places where children gather, the local community deserves to know exactly who is in their neighborhood.
Do not let him hide under a shield of anonymity across the country. Brandon should be celebrating his 31st birthday this September 20th. Instead, his family is still fighting to keep his killer known.
Please share this post to alert BC neighborhood watch groups, parent pages, and local residents. Know his name, know his face, and keep our children safe. Sorry there is no photo because parole board will not let us take a photo of him for his protection
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>Convicted child killer [Shane Ertmoed](https://globalnews.ca/tag/shane-ertmoed), who is serving a life sentence, has been granted a 60-day unescorted temporary absence from prison to take cooking classes.
>Ertmoed was [denied day parole last year](https://globalnews.ca/news/10948850/shane-ertmoed-denied-day-parole/) because he still posed a risk of serious harm to others.
Too dangerous to parole. But letting him go free for 60 days is ok? wtaf
She was 10.
Who thought this was a good idea?…we used to be a serious nation.
Sickening
Kills a child and gets to take cooking classes.
Sickening.
Cooking classes? He can learn to cook at Club William Head!
“The Parole Board acknowledges the seriousness of Ertmoed’s crime and his history of sexual behaviour involving children, but stated he has made progress in treatment, has been taking medication to reduce sexual arousal, and has completed previous escorted temporary absences without concern.”
Batshit insane
He raped and murdered a ten year old girl. Why should he be allowed to have or do anything?
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He can take cooking classes in the prison kitchen.
I thought prison was supposed to be a form of punishment, not an opportunity for extended periods of unescorted leave and cooking classes. At some point, we have to ask whether sentences still carry any meaningful sense of accountability or consequence for the most serious crimes.
Certain crimes should have some Old Testament punishments.
The date was postponed, maybe the red seal chef he’s supposed to work with said “fuck this!”
Disgusting
This kind of thing makes my blood boil. Crimes involving women & children should have zero leniency.
The judge who granted the leave has failed in every possible way. Who’s gonna be responsible for public safety with this scumbag on the loose, not to mention the family of the victim. The universe really needs to step in.
C’mon. Besides the obvious, why should he get this training while non-prisoners don’t have the same opportunity? Is he paying for it?
Shouldn’t a program like this be a reward for model prisoners convicted of lesser crimes.
So he was denied a year ago because he was unfit, now a year later is magically better cause he’s medicated and can be out for 60 days? He didn’t commit a minor thing he kid a child!
He assulted and murdered a child. And This Canadian justice is having th socity pays for: A community living residential facility under 24-hour supervision (!!! Really. and the cost is?) and a job four-and-a-half hours a day, five-days-a-week with a Red Seal Chef; and counselling and other rehabilitation programs.
In the meantime, familys of the victim don’t get anything And sick people who live on the street, who arent’ criminal, don’t get lodging, a job or counselling and rehabilitation or any help.
Canadian ‘Justice’ is just so insane.
Who’s paying for this?
> 10-year-old girl who was sexually assaulted and murdered
Heather:
* Will never get to have friends
* Won’t ever graduate high school
* Will never get to sing, cook, dance, nothing
This government, our judicial system:
> Let’s give this evil, sadistic monster, not only the ability to eat and breathe and walk around, but cooking classes out there in our community.
I am so ashamed of this system, the people that run it. What kind of evil do you have to be to think that this is ok?
If hes in prison for life why does he even need to take cooking classes… its not like he is ever going to be cooking for people.. dude cant even get parole. He doesnt need to learn how to be a fancy chef.
This should only be for people who dismissed crimes, such as theft, etc, with Ankle Monitor supervision so that the offender cannot go into any property nor near any playgrounds.
Crazy. I spent 3 months trapped in jury duty for this guy. He was completely unrepentant and in his allowed statement after being sentenced stood up and claimed he was innocent and being railroaded. Despite us being forced by the defence lawyer to listen to his video recorded weekend in jail ad nauseam, culminating in a confession complete with details about the event that were not released to the public. And this was without hearing some of the stuff that was judged too prejudicial to allow in court, such as that he had gotten into the same bed as a child that his then girlfriend was babysitting, or that he had confided to a therapist that he had urges involving children.
Utterly unrepentant.
>According to a Sept. 2 Parole Board of Canada decision, Shane Robert Ertmoed – convicted of first-degree murder in connection with the Oct. 1, 2000 death of Heather Thomas – applied for the UTA “for personal development for rehabilitative purposes.”
>Following a hearing, the board concluded he “will not pose an undue risk” of reoffending; a conclusion the case management team did not agree with.
>“Their view is that your risk cannot be managed safely on the proposed UTA,” the 11-page decision notes.
>The team pointed out that employment issues “were not a contributing factor in your offending and cooking skills do not align with your long-term goal to work as a plumber.”
[Source](https://vicnews.com/2026/09/24/surrey-child-killer-granted-unescorted-absence/)
Back to jail. WTF is going on with this. How can Reddit users help the family?
Absolutely insane. Have someone go to the prison to teach cooking classes. Don’t let violent sexual offenders of 10 year old children out unsupervised for up to 60 days! What are we doing?!
Why does this even need to be said?!
Edit: read the article too quickly. He will be in a facility with 24 hour supervision
Every time I read something like this I become more open to capital punishment.
If he victimizes another child, or worse…
The blood is on that judge’s hands too.
How on earth is is justified that someone who took the life of a 10 year old, after sexually assaulting her, is even allowed to see the light of day?
This sounds absolutely insane to me. What are we even doing? This person raped and murdered a CHILD and we are giving them a 60 day leave to do COOKING CLASSES? What about these poor parents who have suffered in the jail of living without their child and knowing what a terrible end of life she had at his hands? They have a life sentence. I always tell my husband that if something happened to our child, I wouldn’t be able to continue on unless we had others I needed to stay for. I can’t imagine anything worse, there would be nothing worse than losing your child.
Imo, for cases like this bring back the death penalty. As a parent I felt crimes like this were reprehensible before kids, now that I have and am around a child 24/7 and have a first hand understanding of truly how vulnerable and innocent they are (I understood this before, but somehow I understand it even more now??), anybody who hurts a child deserves prison without release. Rape and murder? Death. There is no rehabilitating somebody who could harm such an innocent, vulnerable being. Fucking disgusting.
To take cooking classes???
4 hours a day “working” with a Red Seal Chef…..what will he be doing for the rest of the day? Is this a cooking class that you have to pay for? This is ridiculous. So many questions…..
This is absolutely unacceptable. I hope the people that made this decision lose their positions. They clearly cannot be trusted with the responsibility.
There must be thousands of young students that have not raped and murdered a child that would love the opportunity to learn from a red seal chef and may not be able to afford such and opportunity
What the fuck are we even doing anymore? Who is paying for this and how do we remove people from these positions when they cannot make simple common sense desicions that are in the best interest of the public?.
What am I reading? A convicted killer gets to go cooking with a red seal chef? What a fkn joke. I hope he dies on the way.
Why do we have parole boards making decisions like this?
I really want to know how we got to this place where parole boards repeatedly make decisions that almost no person agrees with.
Isn’t all of government in a democracy supposed to serve the people and be set up in a way that most people support?
I bet the 10 year old he assaulted and murdered would have loved to take a class. Any class. School. Being a kid. Growing up…going to post secondary. He should rot in a windowless cell.
Imagine putting the teacher and other participants in that class through the trauma of working alongside a convicted child killer.
Couldn’t be a modern, just, and educated justice system like ours in Canada. Oh wait.
The absolute rage this headline gave me. My heart goes out to the family of the victim. What a disgrace our correctional system is.
There is also a child killer on a 60 day unescorted leave from his life sentence in Victoria Bc as well. The victims family has Been warning us in local communities on Facebook.
PUBLIC SAFETY WARNING: Convicted Child Killer Transferred to British Columbia
Please share this to warn families, parents, and community groups across BC.
Douglas Floyd Lambier was convicted of second-degree murder for the horrifying 2005 smothering death of 9-year-old Brandon Burchell in Windsor, Ontario. He also has a prior criminal record involving the sexual assault of children.
He was quietly transferred from Ontario to a federal institution in BC in Victoria at William Head Institution because he requested to be transferred as people do not know him our his history . On Friday, September 11, he was denied full parole because he remains too dangerous—but he was granted a 60-day Unescorted Temporary Absence (UTA) to complete a program in the community.
This means he is currently living outside prison walls at a community facility/treatment centre @ the Salvation Army in Victora BC without physical guards. While he is legally barred from being near schools, parks, and places where children gather, the local community deserves to know exactly who is in their neighborhood.
Do not let him hide under a shield of anonymity across the country. Brandon should be celebrating his 31st birthday this September 20th. Instead, his family is still fighting to keep his killer known.
Please share this post to alert BC neighborhood watch groups, parent pages, and local residents. Know his name, know his face, and keep our children safe. Sorry there is no photo because parole board will not let us take a photo of him for his protection
#PublicSafety #BritishColumbia #ChildSafety #BrandonBurchell #Share
The judiciary in this country keep losing credibility day after day…
First off – I’m disgusted. How was this allowed? Second – where is this cooking program? Will the community it’s in be notified?