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    Germany’s AfD is so extreme it’s putting off other far-right parties

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    2. Ok-Cap1727 on

      I feel so much discomfort looking at these people even without knowing what party. Politicians just have these villain vibes nowadays. Is it the fake-smiles or the psychotic stare?

    6. Excellent_Walk7821 on

      An interesting perspective on the recent Berlin election TDLR – the left is mimicking techniques used by the far right

      The closer Germans are to the Nazi era by age, the more likely they are to see the taboo breach as a threat to cherished liberties; the younger they are, the more likely they are to see it as a subversive act in the name of a free nation.
      A similar dynamic is evolving on the left of politics. It also sees the old taboos around language as detrimental to freedom. The difference is that, according to this narrative, linguistic taboos are maintaining a system of oppression with Germany as the perpetrator. And while AfD taboo-busting generally appeals to young males, the taboo-busting practised by Die Linke attracts a female audience.

      https://open.substack.com/pub/germanreview/p/what-die-linke-have-learned-from?r=8ahwm&utm_medium=ios

    8. Throwaway-645893 on

      The Confederation party in Poland is also pretty extreme as well, as is the Italian neo fascist party founded by Roberto Vannuci.

    11. ChocolateFormal8123 on

      One far right looking at the other far right
      How much is far and too far

      The parties that should be allowed to get elected must be top performers in maths and calculus and hold compatible views with democracy

      There is money in the system. So if you’re right you’ll grab it from the already poor or disprivileged people to kiss rich peoples bum and if you’re left you want to do the opposite

      Neither is the solution. You either borrow money and fix the core problems or you let people get angry and vote this or that made up of people who have no clue about governance

    12. Slackeee_ on

      The headline is misleading. It is not the extremism that put the other parties (which are not any less extreme) of, it is that they do not hide their extremism which disturbs the other parties efforts to hide their own extremism in order to be more appealing to non-extremist voters.
      Or in other words: the AfD not hiding behind masks makes the masks of the others more obvious.

    14. diener1 on

      Far right parties in other countries support other far right parties until they realize what happened to their own country the last time the far right was in power in Germany.

    15. Beyllionaire on

      It’s true, miss Le Pen doesn’t want to be associated with them even though her party was founded by some nazis.

    18. Medical_You2365 on

      A good chunk of what makes AfD “extreme” is lack of rethorical distance to nazis, i.e. something other european right wing parties wouldn’t be tempted or accused of. People call back to historical examples, and for german right wing thought there’s just the elephant in the room that some will tastelessly call back to. That doesn’t mean the party as a whole is in any way close to actual nazi politics.

      But of course there’s also the russia question.

    21. MrGee4real on

      When you compare them to other far-right parties like the one in the Netherlands or Austria (which were actual governments), the AfD comes off as gleefully nasty. They took a lot of inspiration from people like Orban.

    23. Any-Original-6113 on

      If you actually read the article instead of just going by the clickbait headline, it becomes clear that the parties in France and the UK didn’t congratulate the AfD only because they’re preparing for upcoming elections and catering to “borderline” potential voters.

       The main difference is just one thing- the attitude toward supporting Ukraine against Russia. In France and Britain, more people want Ukraine to keep fighting, hence, unlike in Germany, the National Rally and Reform place less emphasis on establishing ties with Russia. 

      At the same time, all three parties (in Germany, Britain, and France) welcome Trump’s policies and the MAGA movement.

    24. Sernk on

      People pushing the idea that other parties are simply concealing similar intentions are in my opinion mistaken, because far-right movements thrive on pushing the boundaries of what is acceptable discourse. If they manage to get a certain critical mass, they then have an inherent advantage because so many people are inherently sensitive to discourse pushing hatred against outgroups, as long as they feel allowed to show it. It’s thus good to always remind yourself that far-right parties could almost always be worse, and that the presence of a more moderate far-right helps suffocate the worst tendencies of the far-right. That far-right parties maintain a veneer of respectability is a decent outcome in the absence of a better alternative: Better Meloni than Salvini. Better Le Pen than Zemmour. Better Wilders than Baudet. Better Von Schleicher than Hitler, etc.

      We should be able to call a spade a spade: AfD is categorically worse than other major far-right parties in the EU. I can assure you that you don’t see such unabashed racism, irredentism, literal Nazi rhetoric, and complete lack of policing from the higher-ups in the RN. I’ll concede that part of it is vibes and that you could probably cherrypick the worst thing some members in other parties said to make an equivalence, but … man, just by listening to them you just know that they are a good deal more fucked up than parties like Vox or even the RN.

      And, well, there’s the historical context (Germans of all people should know better, and the fact that they visibly don’t is immensely damning) and the fact that Germans are immensely less fickle in their support for leaders, judging from how long popular chancellors can stay in power. Plus, the fact that a far-right surge is happening in the most powerful European country while it is in the course of rearming itself is inherently more threatening than if it was happening in Italy or even France, both countries that can barely maintain themselves afloat.

    27. Left-Ad-1250 on

      Why are we alsway the best in the most shitty things? (I’m german, not right or afd, just to be clear!)

    28. permanent_pixel on

      It’s heartbreaking to see society grow dumber, crueler, stranger, and less compassionate by the day.

    29. cuacuacuac on

      For as long as the “so-called moderated parties” keep denying problems exist, there will be fuel for extreme parties to grow. There are issues with immigration, with cultural differences, with energy prices, with jobs being destroyed, with housing being inaccessible… and so far the moderation has only given the unconditional closure of nuclear power (in the middle of an energy crisis) , rental price caps that make zero improvement to the housing market, and denying problems exist with Islamic expansion and extremism including a ramping crime rate.

      Keep denying the issues exist, keep seeing AfD and similar parties growing.

    30. Tomace83 on

      When will the German people learn that populist parties is not the solution to anything but destruction??

    31. Groupthink00859 on

      AfD is currently the fastest-growing and most popular political party in the country.

      It’s attracting people in droves because of its far-right leaning policies.

      This article, like nearly everything online is pretty separated from reality.

    33. IfuckAround_UfindOut on

      Nah they’re neither rightwing nor extrem enough. Don’t even want to get rid of the welfare state or representative democracy.

    35. Zdzisiu on

      In the last euro elections AFD invited our far-right Konfederacja into a party. They didn’t want to have anything to with Grzegorz Braun tho. He’s too much even for them xd

    36. waiting4singularity on

      > putting off other far right parties

      until the führer is in office, then they’ll desperately anschluß