Close our eyes, cover our ears lalalalala. Anyone who disagrees with me is XorYphobic and wrong.
pubemaster_uno on
He has specifically drawn a line between “radicals” and Muslims in general. It’s an own-goal to re-conflate the two by equating dislike of radicalism to Islamophobia.
SomeRedditorTosspot on
Is he wrong? It’s always the ones with the full veil that are pushing the double prams.
The radicals believe a womans only jobs is procreation, and associated activities.
Goodspheed on
Whether they are radicals or not this country’s culture will eventually disappear through a combination of mass immigration and then those immigrants having a lot more children than White British do.
Hombarume80 on
He is speaking the reality .You can close your ears or eyes but thats what’s happening.Ignore the “xphobia” until it’s too late to turn the tide.
What is an “….phobic” trope today is tomorrow’s reality
Blacksmith_Heart on
If he’d said ‘Jews are out-breeding us and will replace us’, we’d all know what that is. Why is it acceptable to say it about Muslims?
Also, Catholics have enormous families and enforce teenage pregnancy through reproductive ignorance, there are wacky Christian sects who literally don’t even allow birth control. But they’re not scary – because they’re white.
Sounds like the fragile whining of someone whose ‘British values’ have been revealed to be a thinly-veiled collection of 1950s bigotries that they can’t persuade anyone to hang onto any more.
Tight-Round-5100 on
Europe is waking up. It’s not about how many children they have, it’s about Islam. We reject it and it’s okay to do so. It’s okay to say so. Islam is a regressive doctrine. We went through our own backwards centuries of religious submission – literally called the Dark Ages by how much it stalled progress – and broke free. Let’s stay free.
ONE_deedat on
If you talk against the type of bigotry you read in this post, they actively ban you.
Rule_Brittania56 on
It appears basic understanding of demographic change is islamophobia
krose1980 on
No point spitting our worries here. Wokes and unicorn liberals and mass media rules today. No common sense will prevail, only constant debating, neverending agruments and views from each angle trying to please everyone and be ok with everyone. Except this approach doesnt work. You need to make tough and unpopular decisions…but whoever does it is shut down and called enemy of humanity…stfuuu.
There is soooo many muslim countries that are beyond rich! Why they don’t open their gates with big huminarian hearts and thick wallets??
I didnt read his full speech, but he is exact right about procreation, thats simple maths…that will take full effect in future…
I can’t see people worrying about climate, panicking about future being called climatechangephobics…they are taken more less seriously..:)
MemorialGangbang on
Religious people will outbreed and replace non-religious people over time. This is well established fact. The concept of the “IQ shredder” cities is well known.
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EastOfArcheron on
I don’t care what your religion is is, or your skin colour. I do not want sharia law, Jewish Law, Christian Law, or any other backwards, bronze age rubbish.
Seperation of religion and state.
No fgm
No honour killings
No forced marriages
No first cousin married
No forcing of female children to cover their head, face and body until they are made to believe it’s their own choice
No proselytising on the street of any religion
Monitoring of mosques, synagogues and churches that promote hate speech and terrorism
Kick the Bishops out of the house of Lords
Strict deportation for anyone who preaches hate against our way of life
This is now a culture war in certain places, there needs to be integration and understanding on both sides.
Religion is a curse
Defiant-Traffic5801 on
Religious fundamentalists are having more children than others, and it has an impact on society and élections, something they’re very keen on. How is that even remotely controversial?
By the way this is true in Israel too, where Jewish fundamentalists now malke or break governments.
PS having said that his maths and thinking are completely off. The fact that a man married several wives has little impact on population growth. It’s the number of children per woman that counts.
Ok_Fly_9544 on
Gaddafi told us this decades ago. It is true whether you think it is good or not.
Bod9001 on
I feel like this comment sections turned into the daily mail’s xD
Significant-Soft-100 on
I mean a lot of them when they protest which is basically rioting openly say they are taking over they are proud and glad to be destroying our country and way of lives. The comments I read under a lot of the Palestine videos was them openly bragging and saying stuff like this it was blood boiling to read.
surfing_on_thino on
It’s true, I’ve been pumping out communist babies in preparation for the revolution
Ok-Imagination-3666 on
All say on benefits too. The natives cant afford to have kids cause they pay for the ‘new europeans’ to have them
WillWatsof on
>“On past trends, Birmingham and nine other English local authorities will be majority Muslim by 2031. The radicals’ plan is to wait until they can take us over through the power of the womb and the ballot box.”
We’re a very stupid country in many ways. This is the Great Replacement conspiracy said in a flowery turn of phrase, and because of that language people will see it being a more respectable, civilised, logical point despite it being just as dumb as when it’s yelled by a drunk Tommy Robinson on a street corner.
KombuchaBot on
Lol he chose the most normal possible way of expressing this, of course.
What a weirdo.
dazb84 on
I think there’s important context missing here. I’ve read the full quote in the article but nobody seems to have asked the guy exactly what he meant because there’s some uncertainty behind the motivation from what I can see.
For example, if the rationale is simply a fear of change and that’s as deep as it goes, then I can see how that could be seen as an irrational phobia. If the rationale is something like we can demonstrate that there’s a fundamental shared reality and certain ideas that are demonstrably in conflict with what are problematic and should be avoided of which Islam and many other religions can objectively be categorised as such, then I would conclude that it is a completely rational fear. How can diverging from what we can demonstrate to be true be anything but a problem that needs correcting? Do you want to live in a world based on lies, or one based on objective and empirical truth? It’s like asking if it’s better to make policy based on data and facts, or make policy based on guesses. Guessing can be right some of the time but if you want to maximise your probabilities of successful outcomes, you need a methodology based on empiricism and that means stamping out stupid shit like Islam, Christianity and a number of other demonstrably problematic world views that have tenets and dogma that are not at all empirical.
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Close our eyes, cover our ears lalalalala. Anyone who disagrees with me is XorYphobic and wrong.
He has specifically drawn a line between “radicals” and Muslims in general. It’s an own-goal to re-conflate the two by equating dislike of radicalism to Islamophobia.
Is he wrong? It’s always the ones with the full veil that are pushing the double prams.
The radicals believe a womans only jobs is procreation, and associated activities.
Whether they are radicals or not this country’s culture will eventually disappear through a combination of mass immigration and then those immigrants having a lot more children than White British do.
He is speaking the reality .You can close your ears or eyes but thats what’s happening.Ignore the “xphobia” until it’s too late to turn the tide.
What is an “….phobic” trope today is tomorrow’s reality
If he’d said ‘Jews are out-breeding us and will replace us’, we’d all know what that is. Why is it acceptable to say it about Muslims?
Also, Catholics have enormous families and enforce teenage pregnancy through reproductive ignorance, there are wacky Christian sects who literally don’t even allow birth control. But they’re not scary – because they’re white.
Sounds like the fragile whining of someone whose ‘British values’ have been revealed to be a thinly-veiled collection of 1950s bigotries that they can’t persuade anyone to hang onto any more.
Europe is waking up. It’s not about how many children they have, it’s about Islam. We reject it and it’s okay to do so. It’s okay to say so. Islam is a regressive doctrine. We went through our own backwards centuries of religious submission – literally called the Dark Ages by how much it stalled progress – and broke free. Let’s stay free.
If you talk against the type of bigotry you read in this post, they actively ban you.
It appears basic understanding of demographic change is islamophobia
No point spitting our worries here. Wokes and unicorn liberals and mass media rules today. No common sense will prevail, only constant debating, neverending agruments and views from each angle trying to please everyone and be ok with everyone. Except this approach doesnt work. You need to make tough and unpopular decisions…but whoever does it is shut down and called enemy of humanity…stfuuu.
There is soooo many muslim countries that are beyond rich! Why they don’t open their gates with big huminarian hearts and thick wallets??
I didnt read his full speech, but he is exact right about procreation, thats simple maths…that will take full effect in future…
I can’t see people worrying about climate, panicking about future being called climatechangephobics…they are taken more less seriously..:)
Religious people will outbreed and replace non-religious people over time. This is well established fact. The concept of the “IQ shredder” cities is well known.
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I don’t care what your religion is is, or your skin colour. I do not want sharia law, Jewish Law, Christian Law, or any other backwards, bronze age rubbish.
Seperation of religion and state.
No fgm
No honour killings
No forced marriages
No first cousin married
No forcing of female children to cover their head, face and body until they are made to believe it’s their own choice
No proselytising on the street of any religion
Monitoring of mosques, synagogues and churches that promote hate speech and terrorism
Kick the Bishops out of the house of Lords
Strict deportation for anyone who preaches hate against our way of life
This is now a culture war in certain places, there needs to be integration and understanding on both sides.
Religion is a curse
Religious fundamentalists are having more children than others, and it has an impact on society and élections, something they’re very keen on. How is that even remotely controversial?
By the way this is true in Israel too, where Jewish fundamentalists now malke or break governments.
PS having said that his maths and thinking are completely off. The fact that a man married several wives has little impact on population growth. It’s the number of children per woman that counts.
Gaddafi told us this decades ago. It is true whether you think it is good or not.
I feel like this comment sections turned into the daily mail’s xD
I mean a lot of them when they protest which is basically rioting openly say they are taking over they are proud and glad to be destroying our country and way of lives. The comments I read under a lot of the Palestine videos was them openly bragging and saying stuff like this it was blood boiling to read.
It’s true, I’ve been pumping out communist babies in preparation for the revolution
All say on benefits too. The natives cant afford to have kids cause they pay for the ‘new europeans’ to have them
>“On past trends, Birmingham and nine other English local authorities will be majority Muslim by 2031. The radicals’ plan is to wait until they can take us over through the power of the womb and the ballot box.”
We’re a very stupid country in many ways. This is the Great Replacement conspiracy said in a flowery turn of phrase, and because of that language people will see it being a more respectable, civilised, logical point despite it being just as dumb as when it’s yelled by a drunk Tommy Robinson on a street corner.
Lol he chose the most normal possible way of expressing this, of course.
What a weirdo.
I think there’s important context missing here. I’ve read the full quote in the article but nobody seems to have asked the guy exactly what he meant because there’s some uncertainty behind the motivation from what I can see.
For example, if the rationale is simply a fear of change and that’s as deep as it goes, then I can see how that could be seen as an irrational phobia. If the rationale is something like we can demonstrate that there’s a fundamental shared reality and certain ideas that are demonstrably in conflict with what are problematic and should be avoided of which Islam and many other religions can objectively be categorised as such, then I would conclude that it is a completely rational fear. How can diverging from what we can demonstrate to be true be anything but a problem that needs correcting? Do you want to live in a world based on lies, or one based on objective and empirical truth? It’s like asking if it’s better to make policy based on data and facts, or make policy based on guesses. Guessing can be right some of the time but if you want to maximise your probabilities of successful outcomes, you need a methodology based on empiricism and that means stamping out stupid shit like Islam, Christianity and a number of other demonstrably problematic world views that have tenets and dogma that are not at all empirical.