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    English Defence League could be proscribed as terror organisation, suggests Angela Rayner
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    English Defence League could be proscribed as terror organisation, suggests Angela Rayner

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    1. Asthemic on

      In before the idiots start piling in saying that the EDL were disbanded.

      The real media are reporting that EDL supporters were organising the riots yesterday, not EDL, **EDL SUPPORTERS**.

    2. nate390 on

      Somehow everyone in that article header picture looks exactly how I’d expect an EDL supporter to look.

    3. Ok_Fly_9544 on

      This will just make more people want to join a renamed group. There is nothing quite like perceived persecution to fire up the people.

    5. sortofhappyish on

      Elephant Dick Lovers (EDL) are going to be banned?

      Well thats my plan out the window to make a fortune selling bootleg Dumbo boxed set DVDs.

    6. Jammoth1993 on

      Maybe if we stopped marginalising people who have concerns over the levels of net migration and failed multiculturalism projects in deprived areas they wouldn’t have to rub shoulders with ultranationalists to feel like they’re being listened to… Just a thought.

      EDIT: The reactions to this comment are exactly what I’m talking about. People hear what they wanna hear and froth at the mouth to call you a far-right extremist. I’m not defending the EDL. I’m pointing out the reason they haven’t gone away – their members started out as regular people with genuine concerns but found a home with the EDL when they realised they can’t voice their opinion without being scorned. When they enter the EDL they get radicalised and pushed down the road of *actual* racism and ultranationalism.

      Proscribing the EDL as a terror organisation sounds good on the surface, but it doesn’t address the reason it exists in the first place, or why regular people find it attractive.

    7. char2074DCB on

      So I suppose all of the people wanting us to listen to the core concerns of these people feel the same about the riots last week, or the school protests in Birmingham?

      Or is it only the (wh)right people that deserve to be listened to?

    8. Extreme_Marketing865 on

      Having a bulwark against other more cancerous ideologies spreading in the UK isn’t necessary a bad thing. Time will tell. 

    9. Aaargh_Bees on

      They are a cancerous tumour on society.

      Should have been proscribed as a terrorist group a long time ago.

    10. Ok-County608 on

      I wonder if Paddy Power are taking bets on the results of the impending race war?

    11. ash_ninetyone on

      People here are conflating concerns about immigration with smashing up a mosque.

      One is a debate to be had.

      The other is being a thug, targetting a minority who is being tarred with the same brush.

      You can’t get defensive at people saying “White people are racist,” but then act like “All Muslims are terrorists”

    12. Thetwitchingvoid on

      I mean.

      I don’t really see how that would help tbh.

      It’s very much tackling the symptom and not the cause. Okay, so you label the EDL terrorists (which is pretty dumb tbh) – but what are you going to do about the issues that are causing this?

      In an ideal world you’d have the PM meet these people and actually talk to them and listen to them.

    13. salamanderwolf on

      They should be.

      They didn’t come down to help the parents. They gave less than a shit about them grieving, at the rawest time possible. They gave less than a shit about those 6-9 yr olds who suddenly understood the world wasn’t a safe place and were traumatised. They came to be violent.

      And they attacked a place and people, *that had nothing to do with the attack*. They attacked and injured emergency services that again, *had nothing to do with it*.

      They wanted to spread pain, and violence and fear. They wanted to hurt people who were already hurting, just because they have different coloured skin. They wanted to hurt people because they are racists.

      Thugs to good a word for them.

    14. PrometheusIsFree on

      If there were no Muslims, Blacks, or Asians, these arseholes would just find someone else to hate. They just like fighting, hating the police, and flag shagging. In a few weeks time they’ll be waiting around the corner from the train station, to beat up visiting away fans. Southport is just an excuse to get drunk and kick off.

    15. Psy_Kikk on

      This is not dealing with the people that spread misinformation on social media. And there is no point pretending that if you go after individuals russians bots can’t just fill the gap.

      Make more of an effort to humiliate peoole who get their news from social media. Teach people it’s a genuinely embarassing way to get information, and do not hold back. You can’t take away freedom of speech, but you can absolutely ridicule certain kinds of it, and educate against it.

      If you’re downvoting this because you get news from reddit of all places, hang your head in shame. Ffs.

    16. Wooden-Race-9889 on

      Unfortunately I dont think it will even matter to these people, they’ll just change the way they work a la National Action.

    17. bertiebasit on

      About time…and I also want to see all those involved yesterday brought to justice.

    18. Original_Bad_3416 on

      Is the going to be known as the Summer of Madness in the history books?

    19. MGD109 on

      Honestly good. They’ve been mollycoddled for to long. We need a mass crackdown on these sorts of groups, their supporters and their instigators.

      I know some will say this will just make them fight back worse. But look around their already getting worse. Right now we’re still able to beat them back. Why give up anymore ground to these thugs?

    20. EsotericAnglism on

      Don’t you have to plan a terror attack to be proscribed as a terrorist group? Is rioting enough? Has any non far right group ever been proscribed for rioting?

    22. AnotherYadaYada on

      I have watched various news on this.

      The time to remain presidential or prime ministerial has gone.

      These people should be labelled as SCUM.

      Every single person that was there.

      Fucking Scum!

    23. SlightWerewolf4428 on

      Anyone else get the feeling that this has got almost as much attention and screams of outrage than the original murder of the 3 girls?

      And it’s the same thing every time there’s a terror attack.

      These people may be unsavoury, but for goodness sake, get your priorities straight.

      (And no, I am not siding with this mob, nor any lawlessness, nor any targeting of random innocent Muslims or others for any reason)

    24. Zmoorhs on

      It’s kinda strange to me that you seem to have more people upset and angry over a riot than the stabbing and killing of kids. But I’m not from the UK so what do I know.

    25. Reasonable-Horse1552 on

      I agree, they are terrorists. The majority of the rioters in Southport were EDL .

    27. Willing-Noise-5881 on

      No extremist, radical murdering scumbags should ever think of coming to Northern Ireland, I don’t care what race or religion it won’t be tolerated here like everywhere else.

    28. CAOCDO on

      This doesn’t really make sense to me. EDL in Liverpool? Unlikely of scousers to be in the EDL and unlikely from non scousers who are in the EDL to go to Liverpool…