But but these riots were about taking back our country and showing it to those lazy immigrants/s
JayR_97 on
Care homes might actually have to pay more than minimum wage to find staff now
Muted-Landscape-2717 on
No doubt all those gentlemen who made verbal and physical expressions last week about taking Thier country back. Will be lining up to do Thier patriotic duty and helping out at the local care home.
Nope, they’re just going to import foreign slave labourers instead and call anyone who doesn’t like it racist 👍
Moiukal on
Does that mean less forgetful people and less abuse physical from imported humans
jamila169 on
Speaking purely about my local area, a lot of employers either won’t sponsor anyone, or won’t sponsor anyone else. It’s incredibly difficult for anyone who is on a care limited visa to move on from a place they aren’t happy in so they’re effectively trapped in jobs that were painted as something other than what they’ve got, it’s not good for the workers or the clients.
Johnny_Wilde_001 on
Okay, then Labour needs to set something up with the DWP.
You either train for a job and get it guaranteed or get a guaranteed job or instant sanction for a year.
Which means you get one of the many jobs available guaranteed from a list.
That way, we get many claimants who are able to work into work quickly and efficiently.
Choco_PlMP on
I wouldn’t mind working in care, but would want £20p/h
plnterior on
Literally no agencies or care homes are offering sponsorships in my area any more. You go on indeed and most of the care jobs listed have “NO SPONSORSHIP” in all caps right at the top.
most_crispy_owl on
My girlfriend’s mum works as a nurse in a care home. She is from another country but is against immigration into these positions. She was saying that a lot of people just say they work in care in their home country in order to move here under this route. In her experience they’re lbad at the jobs, no way near NHS standards from when she worked for the NHS. Anecdotal, but I find it annoying that it’s a route over here. The issue is the pay isn’t high enough to attract decent people.
Relatives pay thousands a week to have bad employees, it’s mental. I hope this isn’t the norm
Cheap_Answer5746 on
The poorest age quicker so it won’t affect Tory politicians that supported this
Fatkante on
Been working in health care sector for 15 years . My take is if carers are paid what’s their job is actually worth , you don’t have to import workers from abroad .Same as nurses and doctors .
brick-bye-brick on
Good and good.
We will simultaneously have to raise wages AND respect those that come to the cuntry to work.
Win win so fuck it. Just because we get external workers doesn’t mean we should pay them less. We should pay them what they are fucking worth. And they are worth paying people the amount deserved for keeping our loved ones alive.
If you don’t like that, do it yourself. It’s hard, it’s long and it requires training. Up the wage
DOPEYDORA_85 on
Well at least those on the dole, will have no excuse when they say they only come for our jobs.
By the way I don’t believe that statement, they only come for our jobs. I firmly believe we wouldn’t function as a country without legal migration, they do a stand up job and I am thankful for the care I received from a lovely nurse from Ghana
palewretch on
In my experience, and for the job I was doing at the time, which meant I interacted with care workers on a daly basis, the worst were the foreign workers. They were uncooperative, unhelpful and didn’t know basic things about the patients we were discussing such as mental competency or DNAPCR status. Mostly due to language issues.
The best were women. and they deserved better pay and conditions particulalry during Covid.
EDIT
I better add I don’t blame people for emigrating for more money, I blame the care companies for putting people who couldn’t speak English well as overnight staff in care homes. It does have knock on effects, in delayed care for patients and increased costs for the NHS.
It’s just another part of the UK that is just a mess, and I don’t know how you fix it. You can’t make people be good care workers, because it’s a demanding job that requires skills that can’t really be learnt, and the pay and conditions are terrible.
InternationalRich150 on
I work in domiciliary care and we are so short staffed My rota makes me want to cry daily.
I wish all these immigrants would come and steal some of my work and give me a lighter load.
WeakTrip5158 on
Instead of bringing immigrants to come and look after the old, maybe we should offshore the old to places where they can be looked after.
Has anyone suggested this?
jareer-killer1 on
I use carer’s as a disabled male (23) and majority of the ones who have cared for me are from abroad here on visas from places like Africa, India and Pakistan.
All I can say is they are definitely being underpaid, majority of the ones I have met are literally struggling to make ends meet.
Hell one of them was from India literally struggling and I believe he was calling his wife and kids over but had literally one bed. At that point we was throwing out used furniture so gave him it instead and the guy was over the moon.
It’s obvious now that the number of them coming in on visas is dropping they’ll have to start paying them higher wages, in turn making either more councils bankrupt or more cuts made for people needing care.
Ticklishchap on
My mother has dementia and is now in a very good care home five minutes away from us. I am eternally grateful to the immigrant carers – from Southeast Asia, India, Africa, the Caribbean and Eastern Europe – who are compassionate, kind and come from cultures where older people are respected. Without them, the care sector would collapse.
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But but these riots were about taking back our country and showing it to those lazy immigrants/s
Care homes might actually have to pay more than minimum wage to find staff now
No doubt all those gentlemen who made verbal and physical expressions last week about taking Thier country back. Will be lining up to do Thier patriotic duty and helping out at the local care home.
Cool – Maybe they’ll start actually offering a fair wage then.
Nope, they’re just going to import foreign slave labourers instead and call anyone who doesn’t like it racist 👍
Does that mean less forgetful people and less abuse physical from imported humans
Speaking purely about my local area, a lot of employers either won’t sponsor anyone, or won’t sponsor anyone else. It’s incredibly difficult for anyone who is on a care limited visa to move on from a place they aren’t happy in so they’re effectively trapped in jobs that were painted as something other than what they’ve got, it’s not good for the workers or the clients.
Okay, then Labour needs to set something up with the DWP.
You either train for a job and get it guaranteed or get a guaranteed job or instant sanction for a year.
Which means you get one of the many jobs available guaranteed from a list.
That way, we get many claimants who are able to work into work quickly and efficiently.
I wouldn’t mind working in care, but would want £20p/h
Literally no agencies or care homes are offering sponsorships in my area any more. You go on indeed and most of the care jobs listed have “NO SPONSORSHIP” in all caps right at the top.
My girlfriend’s mum works as a nurse in a care home. She is from another country but is against immigration into these positions. She was saying that a lot of people just say they work in care in their home country in order to move here under this route. In her experience they’re lbad at the jobs, no way near NHS standards from when she worked for the NHS. Anecdotal, but I find it annoying that it’s a route over here. The issue is the pay isn’t high enough to attract decent people.
Relatives pay thousands a week to have bad employees, it’s mental. I hope this isn’t the norm
The poorest age quicker so it won’t affect Tory politicians that supported this
Been working in health care sector for 15 years . My take is if carers are paid what’s their job is actually worth , you don’t have to import workers from abroad .Same as nurses and doctors .
Good and good.
We will simultaneously have to raise wages AND respect those that come to the cuntry to work.
Win win so fuck it. Just because we get external workers doesn’t mean we should pay them less. We should pay them what they are fucking worth. And they are worth paying people the amount deserved for keeping our loved ones alive.
If you don’t like that, do it yourself. It’s hard, it’s long and it requires training. Up the wage
Well at least those on the dole, will have no excuse when they say they only come for our jobs.
By the way I don’t believe that statement, they only come for our jobs. I firmly believe we wouldn’t function as a country without legal migration, they do a stand up job and I am thankful for the care I received from a lovely nurse from Ghana
In my experience, and for the job I was doing at the time, which meant I interacted with care workers on a daly basis, the worst were the foreign workers. They were uncooperative, unhelpful and didn’t know basic things about the patients we were discussing such as mental competency or DNAPCR status. Mostly due to language issues.
The best were women. and they deserved better pay and conditions particulalry during Covid.
EDIT
I better add I don’t blame people for emigrating for more money, I blame the care companies for putting people who couldn’t speak English well as overnight staff in care homes. It does have knock on effects, in delayed care for patients and increased costs for the NHS.
It’s just another part of the UK that is just a mess, and I don’t know how you fix it. You can’t make people be good care workers, because it’s a demanding job that requires skills that can’t really be learnt, and the pay and conditions are terrible.
I work in domiciliary care and we are so short staffed My rota makes me want to cry daily.
I wish all these immigrants would come and steal some of my work and give me a lighter load.
Instead of bringing immigrants to come and look after the old, maybe we should offshore the old to places where they can be looked after.
Has anyone suggested this?
I use carer’s as a disabled male (23) and majority of the ones who have cared for me are from abroad here on visas from places like Africa, India and Pakistan.
All I can say is they are definitely being underpaid, majority of the ones I have met are literally struggling to make ends meet.
Hell one of them was from India literally struggling and I believe he was calling his wife and kids over but had literally one bed. At that point we was throwing out used furniture so gave him it instead and the guy was over the moon.
It’s obvious now that the number of them coming in on visas is dropping they’ll have to start paying them higher wages, in turn making either more councils bankrupt or more cuts made for people needing care.
My mother has dementia and is now in a very good care home five minutes away from us. I am eternally grateful to the immigrant carers – from Southeast Asia, India, Africa, the Caribbean and Eastern Europe – who are compassionate, kind and come from cultures where older people are respected. Without them, the care sector would collapse.