Headline is slightly misleading, as it’s not as straightforward as “yes they can”:
> Ukrainian forces can use British weapons on Russian soil when defending itself, the Ministry of Defence has confirmed.
> An MoD spokesperson says Ukraine has a “clear right of self-defence against Russia’s illegal attacks…that does not preclude operations inside Russia”.
> “We make clear during the gifting process that equipment is to be used in line with international law,” they added.
> The policy means that anti-tank missiles, artillery, armoured vehicles and other UK weapons could be seen on the Russian battlefield.
> But the UK’s Storm Shadow missiles will remain off limits for use beyond Ukraine’s borders.
> Downing Street has previously said these long-range missiles can only be used for conflict within Ukraine’s borders.
crgssbu on
maaan fucks sakes just let them wreak havoc on everything in russia using our stuff. thatd probably be the greatest accomplishment we have achieved for ages
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RandomRecGoalie on
While Russia might have a right to exist as the country they are, even if we don’t agree with it as a democracy, invading Ukraine is the dumbest thing Europe has seen in a long time. We need to be careful with the threat of escalation but Russia needs to be shown it cannot get away with these pointless acts of aggression.
BobMonkhaus on
Jezza is gonna be upset. He politely asked them not to yesterday.
wkavinsky on
Here’s the thing.
They stopped being British weapons when we gave them to Ukraine.
They can do whatever the fuck they want with them.
Independent_Tour_988 on
This has been allowed since someone pointed out that weapons aren’t of much use against an invading army if they’re staring at you from across the border.
H7H8D4D0D0 on
I do wonder what Russia’s real red line is for using a tactical nuclear weapon. Can you imagine if Russia broke the nuclear taboo on its own territory?
manufan1992 on
It seems a bit silly to give Ukraine loads of capability but restrict what they can do with it. Let them get creative.
Happytallperson on
This isn’t really a big policy shift.
Russia insists Crimea is Russian.
British built & supplied cruise missiles have been blowing up chunks of Crimea for well over a year.
Frothar on
The only bit of tech we gave them that was beyond their existing capability was storm Shadow and we won’t let them use that on Russian territory so pretty meaningless. Let them loose with Storm Shadow on military targets so Russia can’t just chill with their back line logistics
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Headline is slightly misleading, as it’s not as straightforward as “yes they can”:
> Ukrainian forces can use British weapons on Russian soil when defending itself, the Ministry of Defence has confirmed.
> An MoD spokesperson says Ukraine has a “clear right of self-defence against Russia’s illegal attacks…that does not preclude operations inside Russia”.
> “We make clear during the gifting process that equipment is to be used in line with international law,” they added.
> The policy means that anti-tank missiles, artillery, armoured vehicles and other UK weapons could be seen on the Russian battlefield.
> But the UK’s Storm Shadow missiles will remain off limits for use beyond Ukraine’s borders.
> Downing Street has previously said these long-range missiles can only be used for conflict within Ukraine’s borders.
maaan fucks sakes just let them wreak havoc on everything in russia using our stuff. thatd probably be the greatest accomplishment we have achieved for ages
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While Russia might have a right to exist as the country they are, even if we don’t agree with it as a democracy, invading Ukraine is the dumbest thing Europe has seen in a long time. We need to be careful with the threat of escalation but Russia needs to be shown it cannot get away with these pointless acts of aggression.
Jezza is gonna be upset. He politely asked them not to yesterday.
Here’s the thing.
They stopped being British weapons when we gave them to Ukraine.
They can do whatever the fuck they want with them.
This has been allowed since someone pointed out that weapons aren’t of much use against an invading army if they’re staring at you from across the border.
I do wonder what Russia’s real red line is for using a tactical nuclear weapon. Can you imagine if Russia broke the nuclear taboo on its own territory?
It seems a bit silly to give Ukraine loads of capability but restrict what they can do with it. Let them get creative.
This isn’t really a big policy shift.
Russia insists Crimea is Russian.
British built & supplied cruise missiles have been blowing up chunks of Crimea for well over a year.
The only bit of tech we gave them that was beyond their existing capability was storm Shadow and we won’t let them use that on Russian territory so pretty meaningless. Let them loose with Storm Shadow on military targets so Russia can’t just chill with their back line logistics