We’re going to have the most competitive steel production in the world with our regulations and world beating high electricity prices.
We’ll be a green powerhouse.
IgneousJam on
Renationalising an industry that’s dead. Another fine way to waste taxpayer’s money. GB sits on a bed of coal – but won’t use any of it to make its own steel. This country’s industrial policy of the past 50 years has been suicidal
Harrry-Otter on
Still got time to start making plans for Nigel then?
Salty_Nutbag on
Just so I’m clear, this is the anti-nationalising post?
And the railways one is for the pro-nationalisation people?
I like this. Keep the two sides separated in different posts, and then there’s none of that dreadful arguing.
Moiukal on
Didn’t we sell it to the Chinese and then have a televised mockery of Chinese business meeting with the royals,
ThePolymath1993 on
I’m pretty sure nationalisation would be breaking the law in this day and age. If they could find a way to do it, I guess it’d prove you don’t need to be old to be wise though.
KindlyRecord9722 on
This is for the best. People here complaining about it being too uncompetitive, but fail to realise that having an independent source of steel is vital for any country. Even if we ran our steel mills at a large loss it is still preferable to no steel at all. People don’t complain about the army or fire service being a drain on public finances, steel is no different.
Old_Roof on
Absolutely the correct move. It’s too important to let it collapse. And I’ve always had a major problem with Chinese & Indian conglomerates owning it and not investing in it
00DEADBEEF on
It’s probably a good idea to not be reliant on imported steel to build important things like warships
Smaxter84 on
This will work really well. They can make steel for 152hrs per year….when it’s really fucking windy and the middle of the night lol
Witty-Bus07 on
Great, the Conservative have something to sell again when back in power.
trickup on
If we are committed to bailing them out because we believe steel is of strategic importance, but the industry cannot be profitable in the uk, we should nationalise it
Nationalising British Steel will not change that math.
Soylad03 on
But how else will Tata Steel get yearly government bailouts then????
TinitusTheRed on
Given we appear to be on a collision course with Russia and it allies, having a home supply of steel will be essential when we need to rapidly source or produce material for defence.
It’s a strategic and defence led decision most likely.
Yeah part ideological, but if it helps the pending war effort I’m all for it.
Unsey on
God dammit just nationalise oil production. Do a Norway and build up an enormous soverign wealth fund and fund huge green initiatives etc.
funfuse1976 on
Is this of importance because we still need to manufacture military grade steels?
XyploatKyrt on
Funny, I was thinking recently we should do this with Port Talbot for the sake of national security.
Pinhead_Larry30 on
Steel should be nationalised and heavily invested in, cut the regulations too. It’s a strategic industry, we need steel. If a war happens we won’t be able to import alot of it to make the tools we need to protect ourselves.
monster_lover- on
• destroy industry with regulations and red tape
• oh look at the failing of private businesses, nationalisation is the only way
Crowf3ather on
What British steel, they’re banning coal. How are we going to make steel.
Stoocpants on
Nationalise it so they can shut it down faster, and outsource production to third-world countries.
BroodLord1962 on
Sounds about right for Labour, nationalise a business that doesn’t make money
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We’re going to have the most competitive steel production in the world with our regulations and world beating high electricity prices.
We’ll be a green powerhouse.
Renationalising an industry that’s dead. Another fine way to waste taxpayer’s money. GB sits on a bed of coal – but won’t use any of it to make its own steel. This country’s industrial policy of the past 50 years has been suicidal
Still got time to start making plans for Nigel then?
Just so I’m clear, this is the anti-nationalising post?
And the railways one is for the pro-nationalisation people?
I like this. Keep the two sides separated in different posts, and then there’s none of that dreadful arguing.
Didn’t we sell it to the Chinese and then have a televised mockery of Chinese business meeting with the royals,
I’m pretty sure nationalisation would be breaking the law in this day and age. If they could find a way to do it, I guess it’d prove you don’t need to be old to be wise though.
This is for the best. People here complaining about it being too uncompetitive, but fail to realise that having an independent source of steel is vital for any country. Even if we ran our steel mills at a large loss it is still preferable to no steel at all. People don’t complain about the army or fire service being a drain on public finances, steel is no different.
Absolutely the correct move. It’s too important to let it collapse. And I’ve always had a major problem with Chinese & Indian conglomerates owning it and not investing in it
It’s probably a good idea to not be reliant on imported steel to build important things like warships
This will work really well. They can make steel for 152hrs per year….when it’s really fucking windy and the middle of the night lol
Great, the Conservative have something to sell again when back in power.
If we are committed to bailing them out because we believe steel is of strategic importance, but the industry cannot be profitable in the uk, we should nationalise it
Quick googling shows it takes [roughly 4 MWh](https://www.sustainabilitybynumbers.com/p/green-steel-goodall) of energy per ton of steel.
Ton of steel right now costs [£362](https://www.dailymetalprice.com/metalpricecharts.php?c=st&u=mt&d=240). 4 MWh at [average electricity price](https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/66f3cb577e1625ee0d0c6f0b/Quarterly-Energy-Prices-September-2024.pdf) would cost around £729.
Nationalising British Steel will not change that math.
But how else will Tata Steel get yearly government bailouts then????
Given we appear to be on a collision course with Russia and it allies, having a home supply of steel will be essential when we need to rapidly source or produce material for defence.
It’s a strategic and defence led decision most likely.
Yeah part ideological, but if it helps the pending war effort I’m all for it.
God dammit just nationalise oil production. Do a Norway and build up an enormous soverign wealth fund and fund huge green initiatives etc.
Is this of importance because we still need to manufacture military grade steels?
Funny, I was thinking recently we should do this with Port Talbot for the sake of national security.
Steel should be nationalised and heavily invested in, cut the regulations too. It’s a strategic industry, we need steel. If a war happens we won’t be able to import alot of it to make the tools we need to protect ourselves.
• destroy industry with regulations and red tape
• oh look at the failing of private businesses, nationalisation is the only way
What British steel, they’re banning coal. How are we going to make steel.
Nationalise it so they can shut it down faster, and outsource production to third-world countries.
Sounds about right for Labour, nationalise a business that doesn’t make money