I’m guessing it’s because they need spies who blend in to trouble spots. White people stand out in most of the world.
ukboutique on
>But any white British students from socially deprived families would not be considered for internships which could lead to a career as a spy
Ah yes, excluding the most disadvantaged cohort in the country(outside of gypsies but thats a different story) how very inclusive of them
Diversity is when no white people
Lumpy_Argument_1867 on
People wonder why the far right is gaining traction everywhere.
Lumpy-Angle-7435 on
I’m confused so if you’re from a low socioeconomic background and White you wont get the job but if you’re from a deprived background you can apply?
OneTrueScot on
What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
People cheering this on aren’t going to like what’s coming.
ash_ninetyone on
> It says that to be eligible to apply for internships, the highest earner in the student’s household when they were aged 14 had to be either unemployed and seeking work, or employed but only in certain technical or manual occupations.
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> Eligible occupations include a postal worker, machine operative, security guard, caretaker, farm worker, catering assistant, sales assistant, lorry or taxi driver, cleaner, porter, packer, labourer, waiter, motor mechanic, printer, tool maker, electrician, gardener or train driver
Are some of these lowly paid jobs? Train drivers start on £24k, but can earn up to £60k. Sparkies average between £33k – £42k. Experienced Mechanics average £35k according to online (start near minimum wage).
Is £30k now class as a low paid salary? They’re traditionally blue-collar jobs I know. But I’ve never met a hard up electrician. Most are better paid than white collar jobs. Seems very specific to put a restriction on parents occupations, in addition to race. They’re targetting a very small set of people. Usually from disadvantaged backgrounds you try to work on household income don’t you?
Dragons-In-Space on
Becoming like south africa. Look at our once efficient, powerhouse of an economy.
It happens quickly.
Soon you will suffer the consequences too.
Jobs should be given to people with the best qualifications regardless of colour or gender.
I can’t believe how we have to explain something so logical to idiots.
Btw: I’m not even white and I am seeing it happen way to often in so called civilized countries.
This impacts your whole economy and should be banned. Whiny people need to get a life and grow up.
My black grandfather during apartheid built an empire.
During apartheid…. because he worked hard and wasn’t lazy.
If he could do it anyone else can, get over yourselves.
Stop making assumptions or giving things to people who have not earned it.
These leaders and celebrities are touched in the head and love their fake virtue signaling.
Meanwhile, they live in gated communities away from the common man’s problem and do nothing to help.
It will only lead to your downfall.
A white country should cater to its white native citizens and those other group that have been there for generations first, not illegal immigrants or africans/arabs who don’t want to work anyway and won’t give it their all.
It’s different if you are a legal, hard worker no matter you colour and gender I’m all for it.
Realistic_Welcome213 on
It’s not difficult to work out why our security services might need more people from diverse backgrounds. Hugo from Eton might have a tricky time infiltrating an Islamist terror cell.
grey_hat_uk on
In general I would agree that this kind of blunt and heavy handed equality drive is not the best.
Yet in this situation with security it makes sense that you have to have cultural and community knowledge and you can be as blunt as you want about getting it.
It’s not about just having people who would fit in it’s about having the right people who can look at a text message and understand why their are words in cirtain orders, pick up on missing words or know locations based on nicknames.
“heat from fire”
VictoriouslyAviation on
Not reading a Telegraph article as it’s probably bollocks.
I’ll throw a guess out: security services has an internship program requiring certain characteristics due to a service need. There are individuals not fitting those characteristics. There are other internships within the service where those limiting characteristics don’t apply and those individuals are free to apply.
Was I close?
PebbleFrosting on
Well, they do tend to fail badly when it comes to leaning a 2nd language. You don’t want the next 007 using ChatGPT advanced voice mode to navigate around the super villains lair.
Imagine the conversation with the villain in the chair stroking the cat!
MediocreWitness726 on
So racism?
Ah, forgot… can’t be racist against whites!
Imagine if they said no blacks or asians.
fillyourguts on
Because letting a Iranian join the British army went well last time
LSL3587 on
Since when are train drivers heading up deprived families?
And the Rt Hon Sir Keir Starmer KCB KC MP could have applied as the son of a tool-maker (if he hadn’t been white).
***students need to also be from a deprived family.***
*It says that to be eligible to apply for internships, the highest earner in the student’s household when they were aged 14 had to be either unemployed and seeking work, or employed but only in certain technical or manual occupations.*
Imagine explaining to someone who served in the world wars that MoD staff would be outsourced to people with foreign backgrounds at the exclusion of the native population.
Bitter-Republic5092 on
Yeah, let’s get loads of foreigners working for the secret services that’ll work, fucking unbelievable 👏.
Longjumping_Stand889 on
So what I’m taking from this is that it’s ok to be racist sometimes.
Able-Firefighter-158 on
How about, crazy take I know, you hire the best qualified for the position rather than push DEI hires that ultimately pull standards down?
Hot_Chocolate_7415 on
Let’s just send all our white European spies to the Middle East to gather intel on the various regimes there, just to appease the casual racists and xenophobes.
They can operate under complete anonymity, as being white Europeans in Middle East countries wouldn’t look out of place or compromise them at all.
These aren’t DEI hires, it’s common sense!
So please stop using this propaganda to justify your inherent racism 👍
mickymellon on
I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it – you’ll earn double in the private sector and not be in a dead end job.
Woody1872 on
In other words, racism. It’s called racism.
You can’t selectively choose which racism you like and which you don’t. It’s binary; you are for it or against it.
ShinHayato on
I get the intent, but this isn’t the right way to go about it
psrandom on
>The advert goes on to explain that the 10-11 week “intelligence internship” is only open to students from a “Black, Asian, mixed heritage or ethnic minority” as well as those from a “socially or economically disadvantaged” background.
The key misinformation is how the writer has joined the 2 quoted parts. The advert shown in the article just says “… ethnic minority and from socially…”
Which is just targeting poor minority students. Even the bit well off minority students are excluded from this opportunity. So it’s not just white folks who are excluded
banneddumpling on
I just don’t understand what type of a country are living in anymore.
I get it you want to “recruit” in minorities, but that’s what 10% of non-whites here?
Upstairs-Flow-483 on
I want the best person for the job and statistically that’s going to be a white person. it’s like going to Africa and saying I only want white people to apply for this job
VankHilda on
And this is why I don’t care for this country.
We have Trump in the Whitehouse and America and UK doing all it can to assist Ukraine in the little time left and this will potentially lead to Russia doing something stupid like attacking sites in the UK triggering a war
I’ve no love for such a country.
tebbus on
Clickbaiting wrong headline as usual, bring out the race baiters. Chomp chomp. Can’t wait for Nigel Farage to come and give us our second Brexit and truly push this country into the abyss. Bring it on boys!
thedarkknight787 on
Article from the telegraph yawn, yeah definitely just adding petrol to more culture war bollocks !
The amount of gullible twats that will fall for this shit is mind blowing……I’m fascinated by how the right wing fool people so easily.
Ochib on
If you believe the Daily Mail all threats to the UK are from non white countries.
So let’s hire a lot of white upper class people to give us advice about these communities
LividLime1869 on
modern britain is just hating on the white people whos families created britain
LatelyPode on
As someone who would benefit from this, this is very stupid and should be made illegal. Why are we allowed to give certain opportunities based on race?
hiddenkarol on
And you all will be surprised when the far right wins next time
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I’m guessing it’s because they need spies who blend in to trouble spots. White people stand out in most of the world.
>But any white British students from socially deprived families would not be considered for internships which could lead to a career as a spy
Ah yes, excluding the most disadvantaged cohort in the country(outside of gypsies but thats a different story) how very inclusive of them
Diversity is when no white people
People wonder why the far right is gaining traction everywhere.
I’m confused so if you’re from a low socioeconomic background and White you wont get the job but if you’re from a deprived background you can apply?
What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
People cheering this on aren’t going to like what’s coming.
> It says that to be eligible to apply for internships, the highest earner in the student’s household when they were aged 14 had to be either unemployed and seeking work, or employed but only in certain technical or manual occupations.
>
> Eligible occupations include a postal worker, machine operative, security guard, caretaker, farm worker, catering assistant, sales assistant, lorry or taxi driver, cleaner, porter, packer, labourer, waiter, motor mechanic, printer, tool maker, electrician, gardener or train driver
Are some of these lowly paid jobs? Train drivers start on £24k, but can earn up to £60k. Sparkies average between £33k – £42k. Experienced Mechanics average £35k according to online (start near minimum wage).
Is £30k now class as a low paid salary? They’re traditionally blue-collar jobs I know. But I’ve never met a hard up electrician. Most are better paid than white collar jobs. Seems very specific to put a restriction on parents occupations, in addition to race. They’re targetting a very small set of people. Usually from disadvantaged backgrounds you try to work on household income don’t you?
Becoming like south africa. Look at our once efficient, powerhouse of an economy.
It happens quickly.
Soon you will suffer the consequences too.
Jobs should be given to people with the best qualifications regardless of colour or gender.
I can’t believe how we have to explain something so logical to idiots.
Btw: I’m not even white and I am seeing it happen way to often in so called civilized countries.
This impacts your whole economy and should be banned. Whiny people need to get a life and grow up.
My black grandfather during apartheid built an empire.
During apartheid…. because he worked hard and wasn’t lazy.
If he could do it anyone else can, get over yourselves.
Stop making assumptions or giving things to people who have not earned it.
These leaders and celebrities are touched in the head and love their fake virtue signaling.
Meanwhile, they live in gated communities away from the common man’s problem and do nothing to help.
It will only lead to your downfall.
A white country should cater to its white native citizens and those other group that have been there for generations first, not illegal immigrants or africans/arabs who don’t want to work anyway and won’t give it their all.
It’s different if you are a legal, hard worker no matter you colour and gender I’m all for it.
It’s not difficult to work out why our security services might need more people from diverse backgrounds. Hugo from Eton might have a tricky time infiltrating an Islamist terror cell.
In general I would agree that this kind of blunt and heavy handed equality drive is not the best.
Yet in this situation with security it makes sense that you have to have cultural and community knowledge and you can be as blunt as you want about getting it.
It’s not about just having people who would fit in it’s about having the right people who can look at a text message and understand why their are words in cirtain orders, pick up on missing words or know locations based on nicknames.
“heat from fire”
Not reading a Telegraph article as it’s probably bollocks.
I’ll throw a guess out: security services has an internship program requiring certain characteristics due to a service need. There are individuals not fitting those characteristics. There are other internships within the service where those limiting characteristics don’t apply and those individuals are free to apply.
Was I close?
Well, they do tend to fail badly when it comes to leaning a 2nd language. You don’t want the next 007 using ChatGPT advanced voice mode to navigate around the super villains lair.
Imagine the conversation with the villain in the chair stroking the cat!
So racism?
Ah, forgot… can’t be racist against whites!
Imagine if they said no blacks or asians.
Because letting a Iranian join the British army went well last time
Since when are train drivers heading up deprived families?
And the Rt Hon Sir Keir Starmer KCB KC MP could have applied as the son of a tool-maker (if he hadn’t been white).
***students need to also be from a deprived family.***
*It says that to be eligible to apply for internships, the highest earner in the student’s household when they were aged 14 had to be either unemployed and seeking work, or employed but only in certain technical or manual occupations.*
***Eligible occupations include*** *a postal worker, machine operative, security guard, caretaker, farm worker, catering assistant, sales assistant, lorry or taxi driver, cleaner, porter, packer, labourer, waiter, motor mechanic, printer,* ***tool maker, electrician,*** *gardener or* ***train driver****.*
Imagine explaining to someone who served in the world wars that MoD staff would be outsourced to people with foreign backgrounds at the exclusion of the native population.
Yeah, let’s get loads of foreigners working for the secret services that’ll work, fucking unbelievable 👏.
So what I’m taking from this is that it’s ok to be racist sometimes.
How about, crazy take I know, you hire the best qualified for the position rather than push DEI hires that ultimately pull standards down?
Let’s just send all our white European spies to the Middle East to gather intel on the various regimes there, just to appease the casual racists and xenophobes.
They can operate under complete anonymity, as being white Europeans in Middle East countries wouldn’t look out of place or compromise them at all.
These aren’t DEI hires, it’s common sense!
So please stop using this propaganda to justify your inherent racism 👍
I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it – you’ll earn double in the private sector and not be in a dead end job.
In other words, racism. It’s called racism.
You can’t selectively choose which racism you like and which you don’t. It’s binary; you are for it or against it.
I get the intent, but this isn’t the right way to go about it
>The advert goes on to explain that the 10-11 week “intelligence internship” is only open to students from a “Black, Asian, mixed heritage or ethnic minority” as well as those from a “socially or economically disadvantaged” background.
The key misinformation is how the writer has joined the 2 quoted parts. The advert shown in the article just says “… ethnic minority and from socially…”
Which is just targeting poor minority students. Even the bit well off minority students are excluded from this opportunity. So it’s not just white folks who are excluded
I just don’t understand what type of a country are living in anymore.
I get it you want to “recruit” in minorities, but that’s what 10% of non-whites here?
I want the best person for the job and statistically that’s going to be a white person. it’s like going to Africa and saying I only want white people to apply for this job
And this is why I don’t care for this country.
We have Trump in the Whitehouse and America and UK doing all it can to assist Ukraine in the little time left and this will potentially lead to Russia doing something stupid like attacking sites in the UK triggering a war
I’ve no love for such a country.
Clickbaiting wrong headline as usual, bring out the race baiters. Chomp chomp. Can’t wait for Nigel Farage to come and give us our second Brexit and truly push this country into the abyss. Bring it on boys!
Article from the telegraph yawn, yeah definitely just adding petrol to more culture war bollocks !
The amount of gullible twats that will fall for this shit is mind blowing……I’m fascinated by how the right wing fool people so easily.
If you believe the Daily Mail all threats to the UK are from non white countries.
So let’s hire a lot of white upper class people to give us advice about these communities
modern britain is just hating on the white people whos families created britain
As someone who would benefit from this, this is very stupid and should be made illegal. Why are we allowed to give certain opportunities based on race?
And you all will be surprised when the far right wins next time