‘Game Changer’: Honda Solid-State EVs With 620 Miles Of Range Coming This Decade | Honda claims its future EVs will even go as far as 776 miles on a full charge after 2040. There is one big issue, though.
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From the article: The carmaker’s executives laid all of this out during a briefing late last month in Japan. The presentation came a week after Honda announced it built a pilot production facility where it will try to figure out how to make solid-state batteries sustainably and at a mass scale. Test production will begin next month.
It all sounds excellent, and it’s undeniable that progress will be made, but Honda execs didn’t hold back on significant roadblocks that still lie ahead. The biggest issue is that the prototype battery cells the automaker is experimenting with are tiny and can’t be used in any vehicle–100 times too small, in fact.
“That’s why we have created the pilot line to identify and deal with any issues in terms of size and mass production as soon as possible,” said Takeshi Ueda, chief engineer of innovative research excellence at Honda R&D. “We have to make our prototype battery 100 times bigger. We are working on how to bring them to the mass production phase.”
1000 km on a full battery. The range of electric cars has gotten very impressive in the last 10 years. Like, that’s a range that allows me to drive a good distance from my home to a vacation destination in Italy before I need to find a charger (and perhaps a place to take a nap).
This would indeed be a game changer, no so much for the huge range, but for the towing.
Currently there are no EVs (that I’m aware of) with a decent achieved capacity when towing a large trailer. If this gets you to 2-300 miles on a charge, fully loaded, then I’ll be buying immediately, and selling the diesel.
Estimating anything out to 2040 is ridiculous with the pace of change upon us. Glad they are looking in this direction. SSB’s by 2030 is my guesstimate.
Is this going to be like flying cars? We’re always just ten years away?
And what bizarre numbers. They’re saying, “in the next ten years, EV range will double what it currently is! And we can get another 156 miles of range if we are talking about 16 years!”?
> “The biggest issue is that the prototype battery cells the automaker is experimenting with are tiny and can’t be used in any vehicle”
Why even test something if you know you can’t use it, and then go one step further making unrealistic claims?
Yea, I’ll believe it when I see it. Toyota says the same and neither of them sell a lot of full electrics.
It’s a PR stunt to say “we’re still relevant! Don’t forget us!”
Oh, excellent. Just in time for a +3C increase making it all meaningless anyway.
Yup, scale production means everything for innovations like this.
The inverse of this is why recycling and reuse is so hard to tackle. Creating a complex product involves overcoming so many challenges. Unmaking it, is oftentimes even more difficult. Especially when there’s no direct market.
I hope Honda succeeds.
Also, even if they can’t increase the size. I hope they pivot to watches and cell phones. I’d love a cell phone battery that lasts a week and doesn’t have and potential to explode.
Honda and Toyota are full of talk and no action on the EV front.
Ultra-long-range EVs will be a thing, but they’re not likely to be very popular or affordable.
The next big development will be low-range (<300km) ultra-low-cost EVs and mid-range (~450km) with ultra-fast charging, ~10 – 15 min for 70%.
The battery cost for a low-range EV using low-cost chemistry like Sodium-ion will be very affordable, cheaper than the cost of a small gasoline engine now used in economy cars.
Mid-range batteries use affordable chemistries like LFP, with very good fast charge capabilities, and cost about as much as an engine from a mid to high-end car today.
Long-range batteries using expensive, highly energy-dense chemistries, like “solid-state” lithium-ion, will remain expensive for some time.
The cost of a low-range battery + and ICE range extender will likely be significantly cheaper than an ultra-long-range BEV.
By the time this is ready, cars will be powered by nuclear fusion.
Hopefully by 2040, the world will also be rid of clickbait bullshit.
I have learned to take these with a grain of salt
I waited 5 years before jumping on the EV train because “solid state is coming” and the constant stream of “battery breakthrough” articles
Maybe in 10 years when it’s time to replace one of the cars we’ll be fortunate enough to have said technology.
Is that one big issue… That it doesn’t make big oil money?
Why the negativity?