I was going to question who would oppose this. Then I read the article.
dewittless on
I’m not doing a survey to read an article thank you.
profheg_II on
As the MP quoted is trying to address delicately, this is extremely common in certain communities and absolutely is associated with various, often quite visible medical problems. I know personally some doctors who, when working on placements in particular regions, are essentially trained to always ask patients when they come in very specifically if their parents are cousins (done very matter-of-factly and without any offense meant or hopefully taken). An important issue, and undoubtedly a difficult one to try and address effectively and sensitively.
IllustriousLynx8099 on
> Iqbal Mohamed
Ah, one of Corbyn’s pals. And there’s still people out there who can’t fathom why Jeremy never became PM
Old-Aside1538 on
It’s crazy how this was a problem that was more or less resolved naturally and now needs to be resolved again through legislation.
Yrrrah1994 on
Make them pay for all their disgusting inbred health conditions at the tax payers expense then.
cornishpirate32 on
It’s clearly not marriage that’s the issue, shouldn’t be trying to walk on eggshells because a certain demographic likes to sleep with and have kids with their cousins, like banning marriage will stop that.
Add a cousin relationship under existing laws on incest and then target certain communities ruthlessly, DNA tests if it’s suspected, 15 years in prison when it’s confirmed, should nip it in the bud mostly
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0ttoChriek on
Why not just marry someone who isn’t your relative?
Freebornaiden on
This talks about marriage but what about first cousin civil partnership?!
socratic-meth on
> He added: “The reason the practice is so common is that ordinary people see family inter-marriage overall as something that is very positive, something that helps build family bonds and helps put families on a more secure financial foothold.
Just think, if we all did it then it would reduce the amount of old people we need to look after… and we could marry our sexy cousins. High six!
MDK1980 on
To be fair, Bradford’s first cousin marriages dropped down to 40% (from around **60%**), so they’re getting better. They also, disproportionately, therefore have the highest rate of children born with disabilities (and a greater share of the associated benefits).
Regardless, the ones who make it out “normal” will then get married off to their cousins, and this causes even greater issues for *their* children, etc, etc.
Ok_Fly_9544 on
Entire south Asian community in fits of tears right now
sf_Lordpiggy on
He doesn’t want the state intervention on marriage, instead he thinks state run genetic screening is a better approach…..
woodchiponthewall on
I watched an unbelievable documentary a while ago, and the rate of births and children with massive additional needs, and the demand on the NHS in given areas was staggering.
sagima on
Two male cousins marrying wouldn’t be an issue. It’s just the kids that result from this so just make cousin sex a tire of incest under law rather than trying to change marriage. I’d have thought support over incest would be easier to garner as people get quite defensive over charging marriage
GreenCache on
Opposing this when certain communities have married and procreated themselves into having high risks of various diseases/conditions is stupid.
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RepresentativeCat196 on
As someone who has disabled half siblings because of cousin marriage, they definitely should be banned. People are reckless and don’t get genetic testing done before procreating with their first cousins sometimes. Anyone who agrees with this shit doesn’t have close relatives or friends who are disabled because their parents are first cousins.
verdantcow on
Save you a click, it’s the Islamic bunch who want to fuck their cousin. No suprises.
mizdev1916 on
Super weird to argue in favour of marrying cousins imo but just curious how this would be enforced? Would 2 people getting married have to prove they’re not related? Would it not be quite easy to circumvent this?
Low_Map4314 on
Considering who is opposing this.. not a surprise.
That said, it should be easy to pass this bill considering he’s in the minority (literally and figuratively) of MPs who would oppose it.
Amazing_Battle3777 on
Absurd there’s even a defence to this, but then we guessed who it would be.
Given the alarming rates of birth defects in particular multicultural communities due incest behaviours – it’s a cost to the NHS / and us.
Ok-Budget112 on
Even if you banned it now and changed how we recognize overseas marriages – it would take decades to fix the issue.
It’s so localized to Bradford that at this point they are all cousins essentially so it will take generations to fix.
Nationally for example 1/25 people are carriers of a mutation that will lead to Cystic Fibrosis. However in Cork (and also parts of the Middle East) where they have had closed populations for generations the frequency can be as high as 1/8. So huge numbers of children are born with CF.
Gatecrasher1234 on
Interesting that he thinks the way to deal with the issue is to offer enhanced genetic testing.
So who’s paying for that?
However, I guess there is the argument that preventing the potential birth of a disabled person will ultimately save the NHS money.
Nah – just ban cousins marrying.
shady_emoji on
“Let’s not sitgmatize cousins marriage. Back in the Middle East we have all sorts of ways to screen for any risks”
That_Painter_Guy on
I feel like calling for a “positive” approach to incest should be a red flag for a politician, regardless of personal beliefs
TheBrownNomad on
Who would oppose this. Oh wait………….. now I am *****phobic
LBDWTL91 on
Almost as if when you let backward people with backward beliefs in to your country in droves, they try and infiltrate government and change the law to suit said backward beliefs
Evening-Mess-3593 on
He would wouldn’t he. He probably married his sister’s daughter.
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TinitusTheRed on
Doing a good job representing his voters who likely will object to the law.
The brutal truth is this needs to come into law as we the taxpayers are getting shafted by industrial scale inbreeding that’s adding a huge strain to local health services. The diseases inbreeding cause are often life limiting and require life long care.
I suspect it would also slightly reduce immigration as many arranged spouses are living out of the country.
Unfortunate694 on
Their cultural birth defects are an enormous drain on the NHS for life.
disobey81 on
It should be outlawed, unless your cousin is really fit
ForgiveSomeone on
Or, right, instead of paying for genetic health testing and the subsequent care of children born with complex disabilities as a result of inbreeding, we simply ban cousin marriages and sexual relationships? Maybe instead of us trying to understand the culture of inbreeding, you understand the fact that most British people, whether they are white, brown or black, don’t inbreed and it’s YOU that needs to understand our culture and get in line with it?
Abosia on
So to clarify, it’s mot British people necessitating or opposing this ban. It’s Muslims, primarily Pakistanis.
Pakistanis make up a tiny percentage of the population, but over a third of all defective births, because incest is a core part of their culture.
We should absolutely stamp it out. If they want to marry their cousins, they can do it in Pakistan and stay there.
RafaSquared on
How far has this country fallen that we have a politician in parliament advocating for inbreeding?
Vile.
MrBrainsFabbots on
A British MP in 2024, talking positively about marrying to empower your own clan…That is not something I want as common practice in Britain, it’s a dark-age mindset.
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I was going to question who would oppose this. Then I read the article.
I’m not doing a survey to read an article thank you.
As the MP quoted is trying to address delicately, this is extremely common in certain communities and absolutely is associated with various, often quite visible medical problems. I know personally some doctors who, when working on placements in particular regions, are essentially trained to always ask patients when they come in very specifically if their parents are cousins (done very matter-of-factly and without any offense meant or hopefully taken). An important issue, and undoubtedly a difficult one to try and address effectively and sensitively.
> Iqbal Mohamed
Ah, one of Corbyn’s pals. And there’s still people out there who can’t fathom why Jeremy never became PM
It’s crazy how this was a problem that was more or less resolved naturally and now needs to be resolved again through legislation.
Make them pay for all their disgusting inbred health conditions at the tax payers expense then.
It’s clearly not marriage that’s the issue, shouldn’t be trying to walk on eggshells because a certain demographic likes to sleep with and have kids with their cousins, like banning marriage will stop that.
Add a cousin relationship under existing laws on incest and then target certain communities ruthlessly, DNA tests if it’s suspected, 15 years in prison when it’s confirmed, should nip it in the bud mostly
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Why not just marry someone who isn’t your relative?
This talks about marriage but what about first cousin civil partnership?!
> He added: “The reason the practice is so common is that ordinary people see family inter-marriage overall as something that is very positive, something that helps build family bonds and helps put families on a more secure financial foothold.
Just think, if we all did it then it would reduce the amount of old people we need to look after… and we could marry our sexy cousins. High six!
To be fair, Bradford’s first cousin marriages dropped down to 40% (from around **60%**), so they’re getting better. They also, disproportionately, therefore have the highest rate of children born with disabilities (and a greater share of the associated benefits).
Regardless, the ones who make it out “normal” will then get married off to their cousins, and this causes even greater issues for *their* children, etc, etc.
Entire south Asian community in fits of tears right now
He doesn’t want the state intervention on marriage, instead he thinks state run genetic screening is a better approach…..
I watched an unbelievable documentary a while ago, and the rate of births and children with massive additional needs, and the demand on the NHS in given areas was staggering.
Two male cousins marrying wouldn’t be an issue. It’s just the kids that result from this so just make cousin sex a tire of incest under law rather than trying to change marriage. I’d have thought support over incest would be easier to garner as people get quite defensive over charging marriage
Opposing this when certain communities have married and procreated themselves into having high risks of various diseases/conditions is stupid.
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As someone who has disabled half siblings because of cousin marriage, they definitely should be banned. People are reckless and don’t get genetic testing done before procreating with their first cousins sometimes. Anyone who agrees with this shit doesn’t have close relatives or friends who are disabled because their parents are first cousins.
Save you a click, it’s the Islamic bunch who want to fuck their cousin. No suprises.
Super weird to argue in favour of marrying cousins imo but just curious how this would be enforced? Would 2 people getting married have to prove they’re not related? Would it not be quite easy to circumvent this?
Considering who is opposing this.. not a surprise.
That said, it should be easy to pass this bill considering he’s in the minority (literally and figuratively) of MPs who would oppose it.
Absurd there’s even a defence to this, but then we guessed who it would be.
Given the alarming rates of birth defects in particular multicultural communities due incest behaviours – it’s a cost to the NHS / and us.
Even if you banned it now and changed how we recognize overseas marriages – it would take decades to fix the issue.
It’s so localized to Bradford that at this point they are all cousins essentially so it will take generations to fix.
Nationally for example 1/25 people are carriers of a mutation that will lead to Cystic Fibrosis. However in Cork (and also parts of the Middle East) where they have had closed populations for generations the frequency can be as high as 1/8. So huge numbers of children are born with CF.
Interesting that he thinks the way to deal with the issue is to offer enhanced genetic testing.
So who’s paying for that?
However, I guess there is the argument that preventing the potential birth of a disabled person will ultimately save the NHS money.
Nah – just ban cousins marrying.
“Let’s not sitgmatize cousins marriage. Back in the Middle East we have all sorts of ways to screen for any risks”
I feel like calling for a “positive” approach to incest should be a red flag for a politician, regardless of personal beliefs
Who would oppose this. Oh wait………….. now I am *****phobic
Almost as if when you let backward people with backward beliefs in to your country in droves, they try and infiltrate government and change the law to suit said backward beliefs
He would wouldn’t he. He probably married his sister’s daughter.
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Doing a good job representing his voters who likely will object to the law.
The brutal truth is this needs to come into law as we the taxpayers are getting shafted by industrial scale inbreeding that’s adding a huge strain to local health services. The diseases inbreeding cause are often life limiting and require life long care.
I suspect it would also slightly reduce immigration as many arranged spouses are living out of the country.
Their cultural birth defects are an enormous drain on the NHS for life.
It should be outlawed, unless your cousin is really fit
Or, right, instead of paying for genetic health testing and the subsequent care of children born with complex disabilities as a result of inbreeding, we simply ban cousin marriages and sexual relationships? Maybe instead of us trying to understand the culture of inbreeding, you understand the fact that most British people, whether they are white, brown or black, don’t inbreed and it’s YOU that needs to understand our culture and get in line with it?
So to clarify, it’s mot British people necessitating or opposing this ban. It’s Muslims, primarily Pakistanis.
Pakistanis make up a tiny percentage of the population, but over a third of all defective births, because incest is a core part of their culture.
We should absolutely stamp it out. If they want to marry their cousins, they can do it in Pakistan and stay there.
How far has this country fallen that we have a politician in parliament advocating for inbreeding?
Vile.
A British MP in 2024, talking positively about marrying to empower your own clan…That is not something I want as common practice in Britain, it’s a dark-age mindset.