I didn’t realize until all this recent surreal bat shitery that SCOTUS is effectively a dictator.
fowlraul on
lol not at all, trump is the face. They’re in the tank for something much more sinister.
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FreeLookMode on
If you swear an oath of office to faithfully execute the law, then no crime can be an official act. An just as is the case with all citizens the appropriate venue to adjudocate if a crime has been committed is the criminal justice process. Defenses against a criminal charge can and often do include argument that no actual crime has been committed. That’s a matter for the court and ultimately the jury.
MomsAreola on
Like every Justice today was saying “yeah clearly this instance would not qualify, but instead of ruling on that, we’re gonna punt it back to the lower courts to figure out what should qualify in the future”.
Deconratthink on
Five male SCOTUS justices are totally in the tank for the RAPIST.
Krish_1234 on
This is a corrupted SCOTUS to the core. History will judge them badly.
notcaffeinefree on
I really don’t think this is going to cut the way people seem to think it will.
The most “moderate” decision, that’s likely to get the support of a majority, is to give some limited for of immunity (something like qualified immunity) and then remand the case back to the lower court to decide whether Trump’s actions are covered. Still, for Trump, that’s an effective win since it means it’s unlikely for this case then to be resolved before November.
Alito and Thomas seem likely to support Trump’s position (i.e. granting absolute immunity). All the other justices sounded more skeptical of that argument, but not all of them to the point of denying it outright. Even some of the liberal justices asked questions about how certain hypotheticals would work if the President had no immunity.
This could very well be a 7-2 or 6-3 (with Kavanaugh adding to the dissent) decision granting limited immunity, creating a test to determine what actions are covered, and remanding it back to the lower court to make the determination on Trump’s actions based on that test.
EmmaLouLove on
It was very hard to listen to the legal arguments this morning. Just insanity.
We are about to find out whether conservative Supreme Court justices turn our country into a dictatorship.
The only conservative Supreme Court Justice that had any legitimate questions was Justice Amy Coney Barrett.
tripmcneely30 on
Because they have a lot in common on multiple levels.
Imacatdoincatstuff on
Are they contemplating a President who can delegate immunity to underlings or one who needs to personally commit crimes themselves to get away with them.
rationalcrank on
If presidents have immunity for offical acts then Biden should suspend the election until alll of Trumps criminal trials are over.
-CoachMcGuirk- on
It was made perfectly clear today that a Republican president can do WTF they want while holding office. Biden needs a majority in BOTH houses so that he can impeach Alito and Thomas.
s_ox on
I didn’t hear them ask one question – would it be okay for a president to order the killing of supreme court justices as an “official act”? I think that could have helped them decide this case. No idea why they thought they were beyond the reach of a murderous dictator.
CarmineFields on
This is why DEI is important.
adamiconography on
The ONLY thing we can do at this point is save ourselves.
We have to fucking vote for Biden and encourage anyone who truly cares about our future to do the same.
This is our one shot to get it right. Everyone kind of judged us for catastrophizing when Trump won 2016 as the end of civilized politics and possibly America. Well it’s about to come full circle.
ManonIsTheField on
5 people with an aggressive terminal illness have the opportunity to do the funniest thing tonight…
deekydiggler on
What a silly article. I listened to the whole damn thing and it was not clear at all that they were in the tank for Trump. Alito and Kavanaugh and I think even Barrett all said things like, “I’m not worried about this case, I’m thinking about future presidents.” I think it was clear that they want to reach an opinion that is consequential in terms of how the president functions in our system of government.
It really is sorta pointless to predict what they say. My guess is they decide that there is some explicit immunity the office of the president enjoys but that it won’t apply to Trump.
Ultimately, the courts were never going to stop the Trump candidacy. We need to do that at the ballot box. All of these court cases will work themselves out so long as he isn’t reelected.
Go vote.
Potential_District52 on
These five fuckers are saying is immunity for Trump, not for Biden.
peter-man-hello on
The whole idea of 9 people having a grip hold on the highest court of the land FOR LIFE is batshit insane to me. What an incredibly awful system.
These should be elected judges with term limits.
dancingmeadow on
Another popup hell. No thanks.
rumhamrambe on
So Joe can remove them with impunity? Got it
Khristopheles on
The POTUS’ job is to faithfully execute the laws of the land. In what fucking world are these fascist fools on the bench living in? How is this even a case before them? Fucking unbelievable
psufan5 on
When is the national strike? Until then nothing will change.
Yugan-Dali on
If Presidents have absolute immunity, Biden can have SCOTUS judges wrapped in bags and dumped in the Chesapeake Bay.
Seraphynas on
So if Trump is immune, Biden is immune, right? Right?
YogurtSufficient7796 on
The law means less and less with each passing day…
Noriega31 on
Let the SCOTUS find a way to enforce their own rulings. Corrupt to the core.
BarnabyJones792 on
It is glaring how stupid trumps nominees are.
MattockMan on
SCOTUS became politicians in robes when they declared GW Bush the winner in 2000. Because Gore conceded and didn’t put up a fight, it got easily forgotten . Just imagine what kind of a world we would be living in if they didn’t throw the election to that spoiled brat. Gore was one of the OG climate warriors and we would all be enjoying rooftop solar by now. Instead we face a climate catastrophe.
discussatron on
Corrupt scumbags.
ManicChad on
Trumps first assassinations would be all the justices. That way they can’t rule he’s a criminal again.
aussie_shane on
I keep reading the argument, if Trump is/was immune then so is Biden.
Only problem with that argument is that having Presidential immunity is only half the issue. The other half requires a willingness to exploit that immunity. Unfortunately Biden wouldn’t. That’s the massive difference.
sharingsilently on
The five male justices are traitors to the concepts of justice. And just when our nation’s democracy is at its weakest point, and under attack.
payle_knite on
Expand the court, it’s not an unprecedented move. The current court has lost any credibility.
intrcpt on
They are extremist, right-wing operatives. John Roberts is a fucking fraud. He’s a fundamentalist freak disguised as a boy scout. He should be harassed everywhere he goes for being a traitor to the rule of law. He should not be able to live in peace while he makes a mockery of the justice system and single handedly sabotages this country. They’ve ruined this nation for the next 20 years at a minimum, because they think it’s their manifest destiny to rule over us. They’re sociopaths.
ProlapsedShamus on
I got shit the last two times I said this but…
The constitution is bullshit. It is irrelevant. If 6 judges, appointed by presidents that did not win the majority vote can interpret it as they want, it is meaningless. It’s a façade that exists to make us think we’re a country with rule of law.
BeraldGevins on
We need to get ready for the court to side with trump on this
haunted_tuna on
Wait ’til you see what those fuckers are going to do for him next November.
Actually… after a month of the q-balls pretend to bumble the count for the fifth time, the supremes will give the election to trump in December.
Like they did for bush jr. Twice.
Iampopcorn_420 on
We know and we didn’t this article to tell what is so clear.
ItsTheOtherGuys on
Well he nominated two of them to the position and a third is married to a known J6 organizer
shapeitguy on
If the Democrats win and refuse to pack the court, they’ll have deserved the inevitable theocracy that would ensue.
shapeitguy on
If Trump gets immunity, Biden should immediately suspend/lock up corrupt Republican senators until he gets the majority to impeach these corrupt judges. This would fit perfectly on the lions ate my face sub..
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I didn’t realize until all this recent surreal bat shitery that SCOTUS is effectively a dictator.
lol not at all, trump is the face. They’re in the tank for something much more sinister.
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If you swear an oath of office to faithfully execute the law, then no crime can be an official act. An just as is the case with all citizens the appropriate venue to adjudocate if a crime has been committed is the criminal justice process. Defenses against a criminal charge can and often do include argument that no actual crime has been committed. That’s a matter for the court and ultimately the jury.
Like every Justice today was saying “yeah clearly this instance would not qualify, but instead of ruling on that, we’re gonna punt it back to the lower courts to figure out what should qualify in the future”.
Five male SCOTUS justices are totally in the tank for the RAPIST.
This is a corrupted SCOTUS to the core. History will judge them badly.
I really don’t think this is going to cut the way people seem to think it will.
The most “moderate” decision, that’s likely to get the support of a majority, is to give some limited for of immunity (something like qualified immunity) and then remand the case back to the lower court to decide whether Trump’s actions are covered. Still, for Trump, that’s an effective win since it means it’s unlikely for this case then to be resolved before November.
Alito and Thomas seem likely to support Trump’s position (i.e. granting absolute immunity). All the other justices sounded more skeptical of that argument, but not all of them to the point of denying it outright. Even some of the liberal justices asked questions about how certain hypotheticals would work if the President had no immunity.
This could very well be a 7-2 or 6-3 (with Kavanaugh adding to the dissent) decision granting limited immunity, creating a test to determine what actions are covered, and remanding it back to the lower court to make the determination on Trump’s actions based on that test.
It was very hard to listen to the legal arguments this morning. Just insanity.
We are about to find out whether conservative Supreme Court justices turn our country into a dictatorship.
The only conservative Supreme Court Justice that had any legitimate questions was Justice Amy Coney Barrett.
Because they have a lot in common on multiple levels.
Are they contemplating a President who can delegate immunity to underlings or one who needs to personally commit crimes themselves to get away with them.
If presidents have immunity for offical acts then Biden should suspend the election until alll of Trumps criminal trials are over.
It was made perfectly clear today that a Republican president can do WTF they want while holding office. Biden needs a majority in BOTH houses so that he can impeach Alito and Thomas.
I didn’t hear them ask one question – would it be okay for a president to order the killing of supreme court justices as an “official act”? I think that could have helped them decide this case. No idea why they thought they were beyond the reach of a murderous dictator.
This is why DEI is important.
The ONLY thing we can do at this point is save ourselves.
We have to fucking vote for Biden and encourage anyone who truly cares about our future to do the same.
This is our one shot to get it right. Everyone kind of judged us for catastrophizing when Trump won 2016 as the end of civilized politics and possibly America. Well it’s about to come full circle.
5 people with an aggressive terminal illness have the opportunity to do the funniest thing tonight…
What a silly article. I listened to the whole damn thing and it was not clear at all that they were in the tank for Trump. Alito and Kavanaugh and I think even Barrett all said things like, “I’m not worried about this case, I’m thinking about future presidents.” I think it was clear that they want to reach an opinion that is consequential in terms of how the president functions in our system of government.
It really is sorta pointless to predict what they say. My guess is they decide that there is some explicit immunity the office of the president enjoys but that it won’t apply to Trump.
Ultimately, the courts were never going to stop the Trump candidacy. We need to do that at the ballot box. All of these court cases will work themselves out so long as he isn’t reelected.
Go vote.
These five fuckers are saying is immunity for Trump, not for Biden.
The whole idea of 9 people having a grip hold on the highest court of the land FOR LIFE is batshit insane to me. What an incredibly awful system.
These should be elected judges with term limits.
Another popup hell. No thanks.
So Joe can remove them with impunity? Got it
The POTUS’ job is to faithfully execute the laws of the land. In what fucking world are these fascist fools on the bench living in? How is this even a case before them? Fucking unbelievable
When is the national strike? Until then nothing will change.
If Presidents have absolute immunity, Biden can have SCOTUS judges wrapped in bags and dumped in the Chesapeake Bay.
So if Trump is immune, Biden is immune, right? Right?
The law means less and less with each passing day…
Let the SCOTUS find a way to enforce their own rulings. Corrupt to the core.
It is glaring how stupid trumps nominees are.
SCOTUS became politicians in robes when they declared GW Bush the winner in 2000. Because Gore conceded and didn’t put up a fight, it got easily forgotten . Just imagine what kind of a world we would be living in if they didn’t throw the election to that spoiled brat. Gore was one of the OG climate warriors and we would all be enjoying rooftop solar by now. Instead we face a climate catastrophe.
Corrupt scumbags.
Trumps first assassinations would be all the justices. That way they can’t rule he’s a criminal again.
I keep reading the argument, if Trump is/was immune then so is Biden.
Only problem with that argument is that having Presidential immunity is only half the issue. The other half requires a willingness to exploit that immunity. Unfortunately Biden wouldn’t. That’s the massive difference.
The five male justices are traitors to the concepts of justice. And just when our nation’s democracy is at its weakest point, and under attack.
Expand the court, it’s not an unprecedented move. The current court has lost any credibility.
They are extremist, right-wing operatives. John Roberts is a fucking fraud. He’s a fundamentalist freak disguised as a boy scout. He should be harassed everywhere he goes for being a traitor to the rule of law. He should not be able to live in peace while he makes a mockery of the justice system and single handedly sabotages this country. They’ve ruined this nation for the next 20 years at a minimum, because they think it’s their manifest destiny to rule over us. They’re sociopaths.
I got shit the last two times I said this but…
The constitution is bullshit. It is irrelevant. If 6 judges, appointed by presidents that did not win the majority vote can interpret it as they want, it is meaningless. It’s a façade that exists to make us think we’re a country with rule of law.
We need to get ready for the court to side with trump on this
Wait ’til you see what those fuckers are going to do for him next November.
Actually… after a month of the q-balls pretend to bumble the count for the fifth time, the supremes will give the election to trump in December.
Like they did for bush jr. Twice.
We know and we didn’t this article to tell what is so clear.
Well he nominated two of them to the position and a third is married to a known J6 organizer
If the Democrats win and refuse to pack the court, they’ll have deserved the inevitable theocracy that would ensue.
If Trump gets immunity, Biden should immediately suspend/lock up corrupt Republican senators until he gets the majority to impeach these corrupt judges. This would fit perfectly on the lions ate my face sub..