More than 36,000 migrants crossed English Channel to UK in 2024 – up 25% on 2023
https://news.sky.com/story/number-of-migrants-who-crossed-channel-in-2024-up-25-on-previous-year-13282264
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More than 36,000 migrants crossed English Channel to UK in 2024 – up 25% on 2023
https://news.sky.com/story/number-of-migrants-who-crossed-channel-in-2024-up-25-on-previous-year-13282264
Posted by topotaul
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> While people fleeing from countries such as Ukraine and Afghanistan have safe and legal routes to the UK, others can only arrive via alternative and sometimes illegal routes that can rely on criminal gangs and people smugglers.
They have to rely on illegal routes because most of them are not genuine asylum seekers. To pretend otherwise just hands more votes to Nigel and his mates.
Start the year off right by jumping into an immigration debate on Reddit…
Didn’t sky report that deportations have increased significantly?
36,000 by boat is a piss in the wind compared to 900,000+ by legal channels.
**4%** of all migration is boat people, but all you hear is about the boat people, almost like it’s a driven story to divert from the other bit the government *could* control but decides not to.
I think we need to look at ourselves and ask can we realistically keep allowing people in whilst ensuring those born and raised here can survive. We’re going to run out of hotels to stick them in, there certainly isn’t enough housing.
Why do we accept asylum claims from people that have travelled across Europe through half a dozen safe countries?
What’s the punishment for “illegal” entry? Oh nothing? Okay then. Do I get free hotel and meals? Even better, thanks.
This country is fucked. Everything that made it good is being eroded away while bleeding heart liberals cry about fair treatement of fucking asylum seekers. Who gives a fuck about asylum seekers? Care about our own first.
So just 1 migrant per town in the UK? It’s overwhelming our housing, education and NHS….
So many disingenuous comments here. No solutions, just handwringing. UK needs to have genuine education on what an asylum seeker, a migrant and an illegal migrant is and the reasons why it takes place. Farage, Russian schills and Russian influence needs removing from this discussion. The problem isn’t the flow it’s the cause, nobody discusses the cause and nobody wants to deal with the cause. There are literally 1000s of Russian PMCs all over North Africa destabilising, spreading propaganda but importantly controlling a large proportion of the flow of migrants north, as they are with General Haftar in Libya they have access to a coast region and have control down as far as Central Africa and it’s growing all the time. Thus giving assholes like Farage and most other populists pricks their talking points. We could steam roller the PMCs we could do lots of things to tackle the cause. We choose not to, idiotic comments such as why should it just be us etc. Until we as in the EU and the UK tackle the cause we will get people round the world desperate for a better life trying to get to Europe. However we will do nothing populists will continue to take over and make those countries that succumbed into oligarchs playgrounds with poor labour laws and rampant with hate for our fellow humans.
This, combined with legal immigration, is probably the key issue Labour needs to solve. There has long been a majority of the electorate who want immigration reduced, and the Conservatives promised to do that, but then proceeded to do the opposite. It’s a big reason why they lost so many votes this time. If those people are also shown they can’t trust Labour, it’s an open goal for Farage at the next election.
When the main issue the country faces is high housing prices (we “need” millions of houses apparently), it’s madness to add high levels of demand for accommodation by inviting hundreds of thousands of extra people to stay.
Most of these illegal migrants are not fleeing war zones. It used to be mostly Albanians – but word has got around that they’ll be sent home, so now they’ve stopped trying (it’s down to 2% of arrivals this year). Now the main sources are:
> Afghan migrants accounted for the single largest group of arrivals in the first nine months of 2024, making up 17% of the total.
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>This was followed by people from Vietnam (13%), Iran (12%) and Syria (12%).
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> https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/english-channel-home-office-iran-vietnamese-albania-b1202517.html
Afghan, Vietnam and Iran are not at war. Nor was Syria in any real sense. (And of course that’s if you ignore the fact that they’re actually fleeing from *France* where they’re already safe.)
Almost all of them are young men – if they were actually fleeing from an unsafe situation it would be more mixed.
The other problem we have is that we’re far too accepting of claims, likely because rejecting a claim results in ten appeals on “human rights” grounds and is more expensive and time consuming to process, so a stressed Home Office working to targets just accepts people because it’s easier. Our acceptance rate is way higher than other European countries and much higher than it used to be, even though the composition of the asylum seekers looks less legitimate than it used to. This also acts as a large pull factor because they know, if they make it, they’ll be allowed to stay, and even bring their extended family over later.
It’s bizarre they allow it to happen. If I walk into certain areas the police or military will escort me off or farmer will chase me. And yet
Asylum seekers. There I fixed it for you. Over 1 million economic migrants. Why don’t you mention them at all????
Remember that our real problem is not the migrants but our politicians.
Yes of course many people will try to move to a country they think will give them a better future. We should have measures in place to restrict that for the good of the native population.
It is our politicians that we are struggling to control –
Blair – a policy of lies from No. 10 about Eastern European immigration now revealed, after being only country with no controls.
Cameron/May – “we will reduce to the 10s of thousands” – didn’t get anywhere close – granted had problems with EU free movement
Buffoon Boris – take control of our borders -has the power with Brexit – decides to open the floodgates wider (switching from European to Worldwide)
Starmer – “We will do better than the last lot” – no targets, no limits set.
Also Starmer being a human rights lawyer (he literally wrote books on Human Rights Act) is perfectly placed to change the rules to adapt to a changed world – where we will get swamped unless we act. Climate change is not going to reduce the refugee crisis.
We need our politicians to act for the people of the UK, not their own egos.
So less than 0.05 of the population of Britain.
I thought these people were stealing all of our jobs? Lol