Why do the press say they scrapped it? Didn’t they just make it means tested like it should have always been?
FelisCantabrigiensis on
I am a voter and I certainly do thank them for starting to shift benefit payments to old people towards means testing. Next step: the free bus passes for all old people should be means tested too.
No_Breadfruit_4901 on
Theresa May lost her majority because in her 2017 manifesto, she said she will means test the winter fuel payments and scrap the triple lock by 2020. So Labour needs to pray that the pensioners forget about this by 2029 or they will lose their majority just like Theresa May.
Edit: Just to be clear, pensioners in Wales, Scotland and some parts of Northern England are more likely to vote labour over tories
CheesyBakedLobster on
I for one already thank them for it. My grandparents don’t understand why they are given it when they can afford to go on cruises every year.
DeadandForgoten on
“Labour just give handouts to everyone when they’re in power!”
Except when they don’t and that’s also apparently terrible.
ihaveadarkedge on
Labour blah blah. Conservative blah blah. Bleak stuff and wallowing in misery politics.
Shite never changes.
AddictedToRugs on
I don’t know if I’ll necessarily be thanking them, because it’s not like they’re taking that money and giving it to me instead.
tiny-robot on
Doubt. It’s not a huge amount of money saved – and comes at a huge political cost.
Kev2960 on
Also it’s £5.70/wk I really don’t know why pensioners are complaining
Condorz1 on
Well, it’s ‘The Independent’. Which, as ‘independent’ as it is, it’s probably in the pockets of wealthy donors and Tories? 🤑
digidevil4 on
This was the main thing the right wing papers have successfully latched onto so they are going to keep milking it for everything its worth.
SJTaylors on
What makes me laugh is the people who repeatedly complain about ‘last 14 years’ complaining that this keeps getting brought up. Ironic.
WerewolfNo890 on
Hardly. Its just such a small thing. I don’t expect labour are ever really going to fix the worsening inequality in this country. I know reform would make it even worse.
Adam-West on
Im already thanking them. Fuck none means tested handouts when so many others are suffering.
MeasurementTall8677 on
Pretty out of touch on this one, it will be remembered as being symptomatic out new new labours abandonment of poor working class people in favour of the North London electorate
Zanarkke on
More than one third of pensioners are asset millionaires. The rhetoric of the news articles (which are majority owned by murdoch and right leaning billionaires) was that this was an evil thing to do.
On_The_Blindside on
It always should’ve been means tested. Right decision long term. I think they’ve made the right call.
BellendicusMax on
I already do.
It was a sensible considered change.
Polymatheia on
The media around this winter fuel thing really annoys me. My parents own outright their own home, have state pension, defined benefit pensions etc. – they shouldn’t really have the state pay for their energy bills. Means testing makes sense for it.
reuben_iv on
Yeah, we should all be grateful our future selves became £200pa worse off…
BadgerGirl1990 on
bold statement, honestly most people don’t care. now if wes streeting was trebuchet into the sea like the NHS feedback suggested that might win a few votes.
Innocuouscompany on
Labour Crashed the economy, Labour scrapped fuel payments, Labour are looney lefties…. Same old tabloid shit
Deep_Banana_6521 on
My grandmother in law still has her winter fuel payment. My millionaire stepfather doesn’t though. He’s more upset about it than my GMIL is about some of her friends losing it.
kernowjim on
my neighbour complained on Facebook about not receiving his winter fuel payment whilst staying at a 5 star resort in the Maldives.
flyingalbatross1 on
Next year’s increase in the state pension is about £400 more than inflation for a year.
Don’t see the newspapers screaming about this positive change which makes it net neutral for most every pensioner
AdrianFish on
Anything that fucks over the boomers is fine by me, keep it up
fish-and-cushion on
I love that Daily Mail want to means test so hard that people who need benefits can’t even get them. But they’ll shit their pants if Dame Judi Dench doesn’t get £400 a year
phillhb on
I mean yeh making it means tested so those Boomers who don’t need it and hold the most generational wealth per head in this country don’t keeping taking more wealth out of the country sounds like a great idea.
Throwawaymonster240 on
they’re probably scrap the state pension or halve it for anyone born after a certain age soon. The ponzi scheme of paying tax but getting nothing in return continues
Cold_Introduction885 on
This foot in mouth merchant went to an old people’s home for a photo op dressed as an undertaker.
(Probably end up on some sort of list for saying that in this government’s messed up Orwellian new world order.)
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Why do the press say they scrapped it? Didn’t they just make it means tested like it should have always been?
I am a voter and I certainly do thank them for starting to shift benefit payments to old people towards means testing. Next step: the free bus passes for all old people should be means tested too.
Theresa May lost her majority because in her 2017 manifesto, she said she will means test the winter fuel payments and scrap the triple lock by 2020. So Labour needs to pray that the pensioners forget about this by 2029 or they will lose their majority just like Theresa May.
Edit: Just to be clear, pensioners in Wales, Scotland and some parts of Northern England are more likely to vote labour over tories
I for one already thank them for it. My grandparents don’t understand why they are given it when they can afford to go on cruises every year.
“Labour just give handouts to everyone when they’re in power!”
Except when they don’t and that’s also apparently terrible.
Labour blah blah. Conservative blah blah. Bleak stuff and wallowing in misery politics.
Shite never changes.
I don’t know if I’ll necessarily be thanking them, because it’s not like they’re taking that money and giving it to me instead.
Doubt. It’s not a huge amount of money saved – and comes at a huge political cost.
Also it’s £5.70/wk I really don’t know why pensioners are complaining
Well, it’s ‘The Independent’. Which, as ‘independent’ as it is, it’s probably in the pockets of wealthy donors and Tories? 🤑
This was the main thing the right wing papers have successfully latched onto so they are going to keep milking it for everything its worth.
What makes me laugh is the people who repeatedly complain about ‘last 14 years’ complaining that this keeps getting brought up. Ironic.
Hardly. Its just such a small thing. I don’t expect labour are ever really going to fix the worsening inequality in this country. I know reform would make it even worse.
Im already thanking them. Fuck none means tested handouts when so many others are suffering.
Pretty out of touch on this one, it will be remembered as being symptomatic out new new labours abandonment of poor working class people in favour of the North London electorate
More than one third of pensioners are asset millionaires. The rhetoric of the news articles (which are majority owned by murdoch and right leaning billionaires) was that this was an evil thing to do.
It always should’ve been means tested. Right decision long term. I think they’ve made the right call.
I already do.
It was a sensible considered change.
The media around this winter fuel thing really annoys me. My parents own outright their own home, have state pension, defined benefit pensions etc. – they shouldn’t really have the state pay for their energy bills. Means testing makes sense for it.
Yeah, we should all be grateful our future selves became £200pa worse off…
bold statement, honestly most people don’t care. now if wes streeting was trebuchet into the sea like the NHS feedback suggested that might win a few votes.
Labour Crashed the economy, Labour scrapped fuel payments, Labour are looney lefties…. Same old tabloid shit
My grandmother in law still has her winter fuel payment. My millionaire stepfather doesn’t though. He’s more upset about it than my GMIL is about some of her friends losing it.
my neighbour complained on Facebook about not receiving his winter fuel payment whilst staying at a 5 star resort in the Maldives.
Next year’s increase in the state pension is about £400 more than inflation for a year.
Don’t see the newspapers screaming about this positive change which makes it net neutral for most every pensioner
Anything that fucks over the boomers is fine by me, keep it up
I love that Daily Mail want to means test so hard that people who need benefits can’t even get them. But they’ll shit their pants if Dame Judi Dench doesn’t get £400 a year
I mean yeh making it means tested so those Boomers who don’t need it and hold the most generational wealth per head in this country don’t keeping taking more wealth out of the country sounds like a great idea.
they’re probably scrap the state pension or halve it for anyone born after a certain age soon. The ponzi scheme of paying tax but getting nothing in return continues
This foot in mouth merchant went to an old people’s home for a photo op dressed as an undertaker.
(Probably end up on some sort of list for saying that in this government’s messed up Orwellian new world order.)