Trump could very easily present as much of an opportunity for us as he does a challenge. The fact that he’s so capricious and unpredictable also means that he doesn’t have any in-built biases and entrenched positions, such as Biden’s well-documented anti-British feelings.
It means he can be swayed and flattered by his friends just as easily as he can be provoked by his opponents. We just need to position ourselves correctly to choose which one we are.
MerakiBridge on
Sending a team of Labour party activists to campaign against Trump was probably not a very bright idea, but hindsight is always 20/20.
Cholas71 on
You can only play with the hand you’ve been dealt. Like or dislike Brexit it does mean we can seek opportunities that the wider EU cannot. Interesting times ahead.
It won’t make any difference. If the Trump was going to give us a decent trade deal he would have done it the first time he was in office. The orange one just wants the UK to suck up to him and will give us diddly squat for it.
Vizpop17 on
Kier the only relationship trump has is with his wallet, forget everything else other than that.
NoBread7642 on
All these people – assuming they are people and not Russian bots – in a hurry to suck up to Trump. Trump is not going to give us any trade deal worth having – the price will be opening up UK food markets to US products that are produced more cheaply to worse standards which will have a detrimental effect on the agricultural sector and opening up the NHS to the sort of US healthcare companies that are so popular people are queueing up to shoot their CEOs. A majority of British people have believed Brexit was a mistake since 2017 according to pretty much every poll out there and most people favour closer ties with the EU. If we want to turn the country around, that’s where we need to look economically and democratically.
MadeOfEurope on
The man is beyond help.
You’ve got a majority of the population wanting to rejoin the EU, so instead he goes off to suck up to the orange man baby.
mitchanium on
So, the next poodle to the US really?, right on the coat tails of Bliar. Can we not reuse the same playbook please?
pogsim on
Seeking closer ties to the EU and China is somehow supposed to make Trump like the UK government?
drempire on
I think any deal with the US is going to be bad for us. From chemicals to chlorine in the chicken. And we know US insurance companies want a bigger chunk of the NHS. I hope the PM keeps the NHS out of the grasp of the US
SP4x on
I’d much rather have a relationship with a trading bloc 21 miles away from our shores than with a convicted rapist and fraudster from a country trying to wholesale export their far-right brand to the UK.
Duanedoberman on
US power is on the wane, it’s introspection is an indication of it failing to recognise reality.
Trump is like a bull in a China shop. The best you can hope for is to keep out of sight. If you try to negotiate with him, he is going to do his best to destroy you.
Ignore as much as you can and look elsewhere.
salamanderwolf on
Yeah, we could rejoin the EU’s single market and remove trade barriers there, increasing GDP or we could bow and scrape to Trump and First Lady Elmo and get scraps.
I guess Starmer will make the right decision. He certainly has so…sorry couldn’t that without laughing.
jim_jiminy on
You think trump is going to drop his demand for the nhs and city of London this time?
Bambi_Is_My_Dad on
We shouldn’t really have a relationship with the USA or at the very best, keep it to a minimum. Ideally we should rejoin back to the EU and focus on building infrastructure for a United Europe Army, being much less reliant on America and being a superpower against Russia.
The USA dictates too much being a cultural and political zeitgeist around the world. It is time that we become much stronger and put down America by a metric fuckton.
Virtual-Feedback-638 on
What a clown 🤡! Until Donald not the 🦆, quack farts at him.
yorangey on
The UK probably has lots of other ex-colonies to trade with, with natural resources, products & services to make mutual trade beneficial. There’s always BRICS if they don’t like their chicken bleached.
Ambersfruityhobbies on
The price of a trade deal is going to be awfully high.
Only_Tip9560 on
Going cap in hand to the Donald is exactly the wrong tactic to use.
Silver_Switch_3109 on
Give Trump a golf course and we will get a lot of good things.
okubax on
Isn’t Starmer one of the world leaders not invited to Trump’s inauguration?
Infrared_Herring on
Wtf do we want a trade deal with the US for? It won’t benefit us and their disgusting food and awful cars cannot be sold here and even if they could, no one would buy them.
McFuzzyChipmunk on
Kier I’m begging just don’t, don’t sell out the UK in order to cozy up to a budding dictatorship. We have allies and trading partners right on our doorstep even Donald Tusk has made his position clear, please do the right thing.
TheLordCampbell on
If Keir lowers our food standards to that of the yanks I’m out
RiceeeChrispies on
US-UK trade deal would almost definitely include healthcare, it’s the cash cow of the UK.
They want a bigger slice of that pie, heck they want the lot – crumbs and all.
roggadog on
Would much rather prioritise renewing our previous partnership with the EU than going begging to an erratic, untrustworthy, isolationist, madman
moss013 on
Starmer is an idiot who doesn’t speak for everyone in the UK, no one trusts or wants him in charge.
JaMs_buzz on
Would it not be smarter to try and negotiate a trade deal with the US in 2028 when Trump is gone?
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Trump could very easily present as much of an opportunity for us as he does a challenge. The fact that he’s so capricious and unpredictable also means that he doesn’t have any in-built biases and entrenched positions, such as Biden’s well-documented anti-British feelings.
It means he can be swayed and flattered by his friends just as easily as he can be provoked by his opponents. We just need to position ourselves correctly to choose which one we are.
Sending a team of Labour party activists to campaign against Trump was probably not a very bright idea, but hindsight is always 20/20.
You can only play with the hand you’ve been dealt. Like or dislike Brexit it does mean we can seek opportunities that the wider EU cannot. Interesting times ahead.
[Boris Johnson and Donald Trump’s ‘Private’ Talks on Privatising the NHS Reveal Denials were Untrue – Byline Times](https://bylinetimes.com/2023/04/24/boris-johnson-and-donald-trumps-private-talks-on-privatising-the-nhs-reveal-denials-were-untrue/)
It won’t make any difference. If the Trump was going to give us a decent trade deal he would have done it the first time he was in office. The orange one just wants the UK to suck up to him and will give us diddly squat for it.
Kier the only relationship trump has is with his wallet, forget everything else other than that.
All these people – assuming they are people and not Russian bots – in a hurry to suck up to Trump. Trump is not going to give us any trade deal worth having – the price will be opening up UK food markets to US products that are produced more cheaply to worse standards which will have a detrimental effect on the agricultural sector and opening up the NHS to the sort of US healthcare companies that are so popular people are queueing up to shoot their CEOs. A majority of British people have believed Brexit was a mistake since 2017 according to pretty much every poll out there and most people favour closer ties with the EU. If we want to turn the country around, that’s where we need to look economically and democratically.
The man is beyond help.
You’ve got a majority of the population wanting to rejoin the EU, so instead he goes off to suck up to the orange man baby.
So, the next poodle to the US really?, right on the coat tails of Bliar. Can we not reuse the same playbook please?
Seeking closer ties to the EU and China is somehow supposed to make Trump like the UK government?
I think any deal with the US is going to be bad for us. From chemicals to chlorine in the chicken. And we know US insurance companies want a bigger chunk of the NHS. I hope the PM keeps the NHS out of the grasp of the US
I’d much rather have a relationship with a trading bloc 21 miles away from our shores than with a convicted rapist and fraudster from a country trying to wholesale export their far-right brand to the UK.
US power is on the wane, it’s introspection is an indication of it failing to recognise reality.
Trump is like a bull in a China shop. The best you can hope for is to keep out of sight. If you try to negotiate with him, he is going to do his best to destroy you.
Ignore as much as you can and look elsewhere.
Yeah, we could rejoin the EU’s single market and remove trade barriers there, increasing GDP or we could bow and scrape to Trump and First Lady Elmo and get scraps.
I guess Starmer will make the right decision. He certainly has so…sorry couldn’t that without laughing.
You think trump is going to drop his demand for the nhs and city of London this time?
We shouldn’t really have a relationship with the USA or at the very best, keep it to a minimum. Ideally we should rejoin back to the EU and focus on building infrastructure for a United Europe Army, being much less reliant on America and being a superpower against Russia.
The USA dictates too much being a cultural and political zeitgeist around the world. It is time that we become much stronger and put down America by a metric fuckton.
What a clown 🤡! Until Donald not the 🦆, quack farts at him.
The UK probably has lots of other ex-colonies to trade with, with natural resources, products & services to make mutual trade beneficial. There’s always BRICS if they don’t like their chicken bleached.
The price of a trade deal is going to be awfully high.
Going cap in hand to the Donald is exactly the wrong tactic to use.
Give Trump a golf course and we will get a lot of good things.
Isn’t Starmer one of the world leaders not invited to Trump’s inauguration?
Wtf do we want a trade deal with the US for? It won’t benefit us and their disgusting food and awful cars cannot be sold here and even if they could, no one would buy them.
Kier I’m begging just don’t, don’t sell out the UK in order to cozy up to a budding dictatorship. We have allies and trading partners right on our doorstep even Donald Tusk has made his position clear, please do the right thing.
If Keir lowers our food standards to that of the yanks I’m out
US-UK trade deal would almost definitely include healthcare, it’s the cash cow of the UK.
They want a bigger slice of that pie, heck they want the lot – crumbs and all.
Would much rather prioritise renewing our previous partnership with the EU than going begging to an erratic, untrustworthy, isolationist, madman
Starmer is an idiot who doesn’t speak for everyone in the UK, no one trusts or wants him in charge.
Would it not be smarter to try and negotiate a trade deal with the US in 2028 when Trump is gone?