I say every time someone brings a new judicial review, we approve another runway.
Former-Tangelo426 on
I think it needs at least another decade of discussion
xParesh on
In 2006 the Department of Transport proposed a new third runway at heathrow in what was the worlds most busiest airport for most of its life and even still in the top 3 by then.
There was a great deal of resistance from all the usual nimbys citing noise and air pollution issues – most of who moved there long after the airport was even built – because the first thing you do when you choose to move next to an airport is to complain about the noise and air pollution.
In the mean time China has gone from having 90 airports at the time – not only massively expanding the vast majority of them but also building 169 entirely new aiports since then.
While the UK continues to self flagellate and hold itself back, the rest of the world is getting on with what they need to do to keep their country and people prosperous.
heroin__preston on
Maybe this time, just stop oil could throw themselves into a jet engine for maximum exposure (literally).
Long-Maize-9305 on
18 judicial reviews about climate change laws later, we will still not build this.
cmfarsight on
Could we try and actually pore some concrete somewhere for some infrastructure project anywhere please i don’t care where, just do something
HoodedArcher64 on
Surely geographically speaking, Heathrow is one of the worst to expand as it can only expand in one direction (away from the suburbs and into a reservoir). Gatwick for example already has a second runway which only has to be slightly moved a few metres to bring it into full time use. This would be far cheaper than building a third runway at Heathrow, and Gatwick is just as well connected to central London as Heathrow is (almost identical journey time from Farringdon iirc). Gatwick is also allowed to land more planes at night than Heathrow due to Heathrow’s immediate proximity to the suburbs, which is a huge advantage for Gatwick.
It would also be easier to expand Luton or Stansted than Heathrow, but these aren’t as well connected as Gatwick.
Bonzidave on
Do we get to spend years re-hashing all the arguments for and against the expansion as if this idea wasn’t first proposed 50 years ago?
Just build the damn thing.
turboRock on
Can we have a train link to it from the South West please?
Fudgeyman on
Fucking finally, should have happened a decade ago at the latest.
spinosaurs70 on
Regardless if this is good or bad, the UK really should have simply decided this a decade ago.
Glanwy on
Am I wrong in backing Boris’s plan to build another airport down the Thames.
Optimaldeath on
Could I dunno… maybe expand Manchester or something instead?
tdrules on
Back it with a consultation or back it with permission?
GuyLookingForPorn on
If private companies want to pay for our expensive infrastructure, I say fucking let them.
SpottedDicknCustard on
Get ahead of the curve now: Manchester, Brum, Gatwick at minimum should be given green lights for an additional runway.
If you want business investing in this country we need infrastructure that supports it and policy that doesn’t hold back infrastructure building.
GuyLookingForPorn on
Not just Heathrow, but Gatwick and Luton to
>Keir Starmer’s government is preparing to approve controversial expansions to three London airports as part of a push to spur growth that’s become more urgent this month after international markets cast doubt on the credibility of the UK’s economic plans.
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>Ministers are set to publicly signal support for a long-sought third runway at Heathrow, sign off on plans to bring the second strip at Gatwick into full-time use, and allow an increase in the capacity at Luton Airport, according to people familiar with the matter, who asked for anonymity discussing plans that haven’t been finalized.
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>”We are determined to get our economy moving and secure the long-term future of the UK’s aviation sector,” the government said in a statement.
Grime_Fandango_ on
I’m in my 30s. I was an actual little child when this started as a story. This country has been broken a long old time to be fair. Imagine how people in China look at the way we build infrastructure. They must actually fall over laughing at our incompetence.
TEZofAllTrades on
Still talking about this when the future of aviation is vertical takeoff…
Underclasscoder on
I predict a project which runs wildly over budget with a few private equity firms becoming very wealthy..
Astriania on
How about some infrastructure investment anywhere that isn’t London? Or at least with a decent railway link? Birmingham and Manchester airports are both much better placed for most of the country.
pdlev on
Fucking hell this has been going on for decades. It’s embarrassing how little progress we are making as a country, we should want to grow and prosper and we are making decision after decision which hinders all ways of moving forward.
PeterG92 on
It will never happen. Infrastructure either doesn’t get built in this country or it takes ridiculously long and is horrendously over budget.
We should be building HS2 in full and getting rid of the hundreds of short haul domestic flights that are taking up landing slots at Heathrow. That would provide more international growth without the need for billions in construction and political capital.
plawwell on
Heathrow should be shut down and the investment all moved the the North. Time to equalise investment through the country.
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I say every time someone brings a new judicial review, we approve another runway.
I think it needs at least another decade of discussion
In 2006 the Department of Transport proposed a new third runway at heathrow in what was the worlds most busiest airport for most of its life and even still in the top 3 by then.
There was a great deal of resistance from all the usual nimbys citing noise and air pollution issues – most of who moved there long after the airport was even built – because the first thing you do when you choose to move next to an airport is to complain about the noise and air pollution.
In the mean time China has gone from having 90 airports at the time – not only massively expanding the vast majority of them but also building 169 entirely new aiports since then.
While the UK continues to self flagellate and hold itself back, the rest of the world is getting on with what they need to do to keep their country and people prosperous.
Maybe this time, just stop oil could throw themselves into a jet engine for maximum exposure (literally).
18 judicial reviews about climate change laws later, we will still not build this.
Could we try and actually pore some concrete somewhere for some infrastructure project anywhere please i don’t care where, just do something
Surely geographically speaking, Heathrow is one of the worst to expand as it can only expand in one direction (away from the suburbs and into a reservoir). Gatwick for example already has a second runway which only has to be slightly moved a few metres to bring it into full time use. This would be far cheaper than building a third runway at Heathrow, and Gatwick is just as well connected to central London as Heathrow is (almost identical journey time from Farringdon iirc). Gatwick is also allowed to land more planes at night than Heathrow due to Heathrow’s immediate proximity to the suburbs, which is a huge advantage for Gatwick.
It would also be easier to expand Luton or Stansted than Heathrow, but these aren’t as well connected as Gatwick.
Do we get to spend years re-hashing all the arguments for and against the expansion as if this idea wasn’t first proposed 50 years ago?
Just build the damn thing.
Can we have a train link to it from the South West please?
Fucking finally, should have happened a decade ago at the latest.
Regardless if this is good or bad, the UK really should have simply decided this a decade ago.
Am I wrong in backing Boris’s plan to build another airport down the Thames.
Could I dunno… maybe expand Manchester or something instead?
Back it with a consultation or back it with permission?
If private companies want to pay for our expensive infrastructure, I say fucking let them.
Get ahead of the curve now: Manchester, Brum, Gatwick at minimum should be given green lights for an additional runway.
If you want business investing in this country we need infrastructure that supports it and policy that doesn’t hold back infrastructure building.
Not just Heathrow, but Gatwick and Luton to
>Keir Starmer’s government is preparing to approve controversial expansions to three London airports as part of a push to spur growth that’s become more urgent this month after international markets cast doubt on the credibility of the UK’s economic plans.
>
>Ministers are set to publicly signal support for a long-sought third runway at Heathrow, sign off on plans to bring the second strip at Gatwick into full-time use, and allow an increase in the capacity at Luton Airport, according to people familiar with the matter, who asked for anonymity discussing plans that haven’t been finalized.
>
>”We are determined to get our economy moving and secure the long-term future of the UK’s aviation sector,” the government said in a statement.
I’m in my 30s. I was an actual little child when this started as a story. This country has been broken a long old time to be fair. Imagine how people in China look at the way we build infrastructure. They must actually fall over laughing at our incompetence.
Still talking about this when the future of aviation is vertical takeoff…
I predict a project which runs wildly over budget with a few private equity firms becoming very wealthy..
How about some infrastructure investment anywhere that isn’t London? Or at least with a decent railway link? Birmingham and Manchester airports are both much better placed for most of the country.
Fucking hell this has been going on for decades. It’s embarrassing how little progress we are making as a country, we should want to grow and prosper and we are making decision after decision which hinders all ways of moving forward.
It will never happen. Infrastructure either doesn’t get built in this country or it takes ridiculously long and is horrendously over budget.
If the Government go ahead with this they are essentially signalling that they aren;t committed to the UKs climate goals. It is all but impossible to build another runway at Heathrow and meet them. [https://www.theccc.org.uk/publication/letter-department-for-transports-assessment-of-the-case-for-a-third-runway-at-heathrow/](https://www.theccc.org.uk/publication/letter-department-for-transports-assessment-of-the-case-for-a-third-runway-at-heathrow/)
We should be building HS2 in full and getting rid of the hundreds of short haul domestic flights that are taking up landing slots at Heathrow. That would provide more international growth without the need for billions in construction and political capital.
Heathrow should be shut down and the investment all moved the the North. Time to equalise investment through the country.