Trump team wants ‘regime change’ in UK as Starmer replaces Trudeau as hate figure

    https://www.independent.co.uk/independentpremium/news-analysis/trump-starmer-regime-change-special-relationship-b2685927.html

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    1. > “Team Trump hates Starmer
      > The one thing that struck anybody having conversations with anyone involved in the Trump team, from lowly researchers to senior advisers, was the unanimity of hatred about Sir Keir Starmer’s Labour government. There was no pretence, no attempt to hide it.
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      > It is worth underlining that this goes well beyond a series of angry tweets from Elon Musk and is much more deep-seated.
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      > It may be that the decision by the bete noire Justin Trudeau to step down as prime minister of Canada has left a space for an international “socialist” hate figure which Keir Starmer has now filled.”

    2. Good luck with that. Our next election doesn’t have to be until 2029 so the orange turd is gonna have to wait a tiny bit

    3. Fantastic_Sympathy85 on

      Is Keir Starmer really the last bastion of hope for a world without fascist leaders? I’m scared.

    4. IsWasMaybeAMefi on

      I would think a UK headline “**United Kingdom wants a regime change in the US**” might prove popular.

    5. To be fair, socialists hate him too. I say that as someone who is, and does.

      Still the leader of the elected governing party of our country, and that means your Trump team can keep their noses out of it.

      Oh, and that also means that Farage had better be *telling* them to keep their noses out of it. After all, he wouldn’t want to be seen as colluding with and defending a foreign threat, would he? He’s probably too busy practicing his ‘sending my heart out to you all’ awkward gesture for his next Question Time appearance, though.

      If there’s one thing us Brits have *plenty* of experience with, and a very particular position on, it’s foreign superpowers thinking they can boss the whole world around. Our very particular position is that it’s something that we finished doing, so let’s just have no more of that from now on.

      America: have a cup of tea and pipe the fuck down, won’t you? Oh, and don’t ask any Bostonians to make it. They use cold, salty water and [waaaay too much molasses](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Molasses_Flood). [ED: added link just in case the lesser known event isn’t known]

      EDIT:

      Oh, and on another note… You really shouldn’t be upsetting your allies Trumpy-boy. You don’t want to jeopardise that special relationship, now, do you?

    6. When an ineffectual centrist is the last bastion of hope against nutcase leaders we might be cooked. 

    7. Fresh_Mountain_Snow on

      You have to fight Trump with strength. This means letting it be known that meeting the Royal Family is conditional on Trump and Musk not interfering in UK politics as a start. Oh and I certainly would not be sharing intelligence right now: uk assets are at risk. 

    8. > The one thing that struck anybody having conversations with anyone involved in the Trump team, from lowly researchers to senior advisers, was the unanimity of hatred about Sir Keir Starmer’s Labour government.

      Why would this surprise anyone, Trump hates anyone who doesn’t doff their cap and bend over for him. Farage became his ‘friend’ by sucking up to him at any opportunity.

    9. I love how the Right always harped on their hatred/fear of a New World Order. Guess what idiots? This last election should fall under “leopards ate my face”

    10. When Guido Fawkes tried to bring down parliament violently, we burned that fucker alive. They voted their insurrectionist into office.

    11. StitchedSilver on

      I mean he’s expecting us to just drop our pants and do what he says, the most annoying thing are that some MP’s are taking it onboard.

      It’s not a show of support, it’s a foreign power trying to influence our country. Regardless of whether or not you agree with him, he should be told to piss off and let us deal with our problems. We didn’t ask for his help, but as usual Trump wants a piece of everyone else’s pie whilst hoarding his own.

    12. PM_ME_UR_DIVIDEND on

      I didn’t vote labour. Haven’t in the past either. However I really really do hope that Starmer can effectively bat this BS away and stand up to these dangerous clowns.

    13. Everyone talking about how trump is out before starmer and how trump can’t force starmer out is completely missing the point.

      Trump will lean on the UK and influence our policies. Starmer is incredibly weak except when dealing with powerless left wingers. The UK is bent over a barrel now economically and politically. We need america far more than america needs the UK, especially given in our infinite fucking wisdom we did brexit and bet the whole farm on buddying up with the US.

    14. Upstairs-Passenger28 on

      Firstly it’s a democratic elected government not a regime
      Second it’s none of his business

    15. I don’t think people understand just how quite destabilising this can be.

      As someone that has lived in the UK for past 10 years but is from Canada’s Capital. I used to see the odd person on Facebook who was clearly have a bad time gobbling up propaganda and obsessing over how Trudeau is the source of all their problems and responsible for every issue Canada faces. The people are at the bottom of that rabbit hole now include the entire executive team at Shopify, Canadas second most valuable company. Some of the executive team have founded publications like True North whose “news” and exitorialising would make the daily mail blush.

      When I went back after the pandemic, every person, and I mean everyone, would casually drop anti-Trudeau opinions. Simple things like they don’t like him to he’s a full blown dictator akin to Bashar al-Assad. Nobody could name any of his governments policies they took issue with, when I asked…

      We had suffered convoy which was a nonsensical embarrassment that demonstrated a growing minority of entitled ignorant, violent and arrogant part of the population.

      Whoever is the target of an increasingly organised global cooperative of far right online efforts will suffer greatly for it and subsequently so does their country and people. It greatly impedes their governments ability to effectively govern which is exactly the point…

    16. I’m sure Farage will be outraged and any day now will be publicly condemning a foreign power trying to influence British democracy. Right…?

    17. Starmer has a bit of a reputation among some in the UK for his ineffectiveness as a leader. Personally I was in that boat at one point but voted labour to save the UK from the Tories, and have been pleased with the ball that they’ve started rolling these past 6 months.

      I think Starmer is at an interesting crossroads right now. We have no EU, and it seems like shortly we may be short the US. Really, no matter who PM was, this would be a REALLY crappy position to be in. He needs to carefully tread the line of keeping public favour while making some difficult decisions. And he either goes down as a leader that will be remembered generations to come as a people’s champion, or a legacy that would have his family change their last names. No in-between.

    18. Is he the world police now?
      Does he imagine himself as leader of the world?
      Annoying orange ass bitch.

    19. and elon WILL use X as a propaganda tool to push the people he wants replacing the government. it was already visible with Kamala v Trump. EVERY 5 POSTS, that you would see, there would be one pushing for Trump’s support or it would be something negative about Kamala, it’s so fucking obvious.

      it’s time to ban it across the EU and UK

    20. BadgerGirl1990 on

      I just wish the government would wake up to what America is now and stop trying to pretend you can have buissness as usual with trump.

      We made this same mistake with putin and its cost us, you would think we would learn a lesson.

    21. That makes perfect sense, given that it’s now the strongest anti-Putin government in the West at the moment (after Trudeau left and Macron is weakened).

    22. I look forward to the likes of Nigel Farage and Kemi Badenoch coming out against Trump as they certainly are against foreign interference.

    23. I remember when Barack Obama visited the UK shortly before the Brexit vote. In a speech he encouraged people to vote remain. As I recall it did not go down well with the British people. They don’t want other people telling them what to do and how to vote. And he was a popular president. My concern is that there may be a more insidious campaign, something like Cambridge Analytica, financed by Musk and the Russians, to stir up dissent and anger and essentially force a general election. I guess time will tell. They are going to try to interfere one way or another.

    24. Sockpervert1349 on

      Sadly for Elmo, We don’t have a regime, we have a demographicly elected government.

    25. Trump is busy trolling everyone. He’s already pissed off the Danish over Greenland. The best thing Europe can do right now is to ignore Trump and stop taking his calls.

    26. When America performed 81 regime changes across the world between 1946 and 2000

      We supported this behaviour because we were told we have a special relationship.

      Now they are trying to perform a regime change on us, the rest of the world will say I told you so.

    27. I get the feeling that Musk and Trump openly wanting Starmer gone might actually help Starmer win reelection.

    28. Foreign_Anteater_693 on

      I miss the days where the yanks would arm, and fund, terrorist groups like the IRA when they were displeased with the leadership in Britain.

      /s

    29. Yet another reason why we should not ever cozy up to the USA. The special relationship was, is, and will forever be a load of bullshit.

    30. I’d like to thank Trump for making Starmer immediately more popular. Fuck Trump, fuck the Republican Party, fuck the idiots and selfish pricks who voted for him.

    31. Time to start withdrawing support for the US military presence in the UK, prepare for a European alternative to NATO and draw a very fucking deep line in the sand. Trump needs to be isolated by the international community yesterday. Their appointment of Defence secretary is unhinged and obscene and not aligned with NATO or Western values. The restructuring going on at the highest levels in America deeply disturbing. Their insulting behaviour against Denmark and Greenland a direct geo political threat to our friends in Canada and Europe. Fuck America. Fuck America voters. And Fuck the orange criminal racketeer masquerading as a politician.

      He’s fucked it already but the UK and Europe are too afraid to speak up and say it to his fucking face, in public, loud and clear. Pathetic.

      Ban Twitter and Facebook for platforming our criminals and presenting them as political victims, for promoting fascists, and for electoral interference with bot armies. We’ve banned foreign tech before for far far LESS.

    32. Dear Mango Mussolini,

      Fuck you, fuck off, fuck everything about you and fuck everyone that voted and supports you.

      Love and heroes,

      Us plucky Brits