I really hope this doesn’t turn into a race to the bottom, with both parties getting more racist and open about it. I don’t see it going any other way though.
TeeFitts on
Reform won less seats than the Lib Dems and around the same amount of seats as the Greens. And yet the mainstream media has seemingly placed an omertà around even acknowledging any successful gains made by the Greens and Lib Dems and instead spent six months building this narrative that Reform have come out of nowhere and now present a legitimate voice in setting the political agenda.
All of this – the polls, the articles, the constant cozy chats with Farage on day-time TV – seem designed to manufacture consent for Reform as a viable political party. They’re not. They have no more of a mandate to set the agenda than the five independent MPs (who are never given any airtime on mainstream TV) or the MPs from other small parties (who are likewise barred from having a voice.) They’re being given an unending media platform to sell the idea of Reform to the public without the need to have any policies, beliefs or commitments to back it up.
Contrast and compare with the hostility the media had towards Labour between 2015 and 2022 and the red carpet treatment being given to Farage and Reform and it starts to become fairly obvious that a big part of what is seen as “electable” in British politics is decided by the media then sold back to the public through endless spin.
buttfaceasserton on
Is this a story about Reform’s successes or Labour’s failure?
As a Kier voter for the last election what they’ve done over the last six months is just pathetic on all fronts. Broken promises, taxation, migration, housing. They’ve taken their mandate and thrown it into the bonfire. It’s clear Britain needs a third party because fuck giving Tories another chance.
MrPloppyHead on
Well that’s great. People like literal nazi lovers over the tories. How could that possibly go wrong mein fuhrer.
supersonic-bionic on
And all of that with zero serious policies or serious members in the party/limited company
And let’s not forget that they are the same people lying about Brexit and responsible for this disaster
lainey1231 on
Neither can exist while the other survives. Hopefully.
thedevilwithout on
As much as I dislike reform, they’re going to be in power eventually
We’re in for a bumpy few decades
LordLucian on
This isnt a success for reform, its labour and conservatives failure to unite.
Astriania on
Polls in the first year after an election are completely irrelevant.
It is a bit of a warning to Labour that they need to actually get control of immigration though, that’s the main reason people say they’d vote for Reform.
TesticleezzNuts on
They will win the next election. They are doing well and Elon hasn’t even properly started pushing them yet.
Labour had an amazing opportunity to really cement themselves as a party for the people and they have don’t nothing but tow the Tory line. Just like the conservatives handed this election to t Labour, Labour are now handing it to reform.
baddymcbadface on
Anyone thinking of voting for them please please read their economic policy.
It’s worse than Truss. It’s a fantasy of free money to make Corbyn blush.
LowCranberry180 on
Labour needs to stress that Reform economic policies will be similar or even worse than Truss. Labour needs to impress in economy and control migration and Reform will have no chance.
Colv758 on
Ah fuck
The only thing worse than a Tory and Reform coalition to form Government rather than Labour is a Tory Reform coalition where Reform are the bigger partner
rollo_read on
Weird, this was also a headline two weeks ago.
Which time was the “first time”?
Must be a slow news weekend.
Auntie_Megan on
You would think after Trump was elected and watching him dismantle America., folk would back offReform. Being associated with racist bigots is a bad look. Allowing a Nazi to interfere, Elon is disgusting.Thought us better than than that. Hoping this is only a glitch.
squangus007 on
People like to forget that Farage was one of the dipshits that catapulted UK into what it is now. Putting them in charge will just make things even worse because they’re philosophically Tories v2.1
ivekilledhundreds on
The left need an outsider party, with someone like Mick Lynch to lead
Efficient_Sky5173 on
The government needs to build millions of affordable houses and give more access to public transport. Fascism flourish because people are afraid of losing their properties, house, car and job, to socialism.
cloud34156 on
Fucking corrupt media bullshit hoping to see what’s happened in the US happen here! Fuck farage and his party of fascists
lizzywbu on
All that’s going to happen is that the right wing vote will be split and Labour will win again.
StrangerAtYourWheel on
Will Labour ever start listening to the issues which the majority of UK care about?
Or will they only ever pander to the “community” who vote for Labour seats in inner city areas?
rb6k on
It scares the hell out of me. Why are people so gullible?! I guess the point here is how low the Tories have fallen rather than anything else? Normal people aren’t worrying about polling with 3+ years left till an election.
That said, I don’t think Starmer is prepared for the next one and Labour absolutely should be working hard to make sure they don’t concede to Farrage of all people. The UK can’t stoop that low, surely?
Echidna-Own on
Potentially an unpopular opinion but this is most likely because of who is leading the Tory party. Matter of fact I would put bets on it being the case. News just in degenerate racists and xenophobes don’t like a black woman in power…shock.
Mick_Farrar on
I wonder how many will actually support them on the NHS issue alone?
bbsixnqk on
Funny how people accuse those who vote reform as being racist pigs, rather than consider what’s making them vote this way. The assumption is always ‘they’re stupid racists’ rather than being open to hearing their grievances. The elitist/classism is really showing. You aren’t better than them, as they aren’t better than you
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I really hope this doesn’t turn into a race to the bottom, with both parties getting more racist and open about it. I don’t see it going any other way though.
Reform won less seats than the Lib Dems and around the same amount of seats as the Greens. And yet the mainstream media has seemingly placed an omertà around even acknowledging any successful gains made by the Greens and Lib Dems and instead spent six months building this narrative that Reform have come out of nowhere and now present a legitimate voice in setting the political agenda.
All of this – the polls, the articles, the constant cozy chats with Farage on day-time TV – seem designed to manufacture consent for Reform as a viable political party. They’re not. They have no more of a mandate to set the agenda than the five independent MPs (who are never given any airtime on mainstream TV) or the MPs from other small parties (who are likewise barred from having a voice.) They’re being given an unending media platform to sell the idea of Reform to the public without the need to have any policies, beliefs or commitments to back it up.
Contrast and compare with the hostility the media had towards Labour between 2015 and 2022 and the red carpet treatment being given to Farage and Reform and it starts to become fairly obvious that a big part of what is seen as “electable” in British politics is decided by the media then sold back to the public through endless spin.
Is this a story about Reform’s successes or Labour’s failure?
As a Kier voter for the last election what they’ve done over the last six months is just pathetic on all fronts. Broken promises, taxation, migration, housing. They’ve taken their mandate and thrown it into the bonfire. It’s clear Britain needs a third party because fuck giving Tories another chance.
Well that’s great. People like literal nazi lovers over the tories. How could that possibly go wrong mein fuhrer.
And all of that with zero serious policies or serious members in the party/limited company
And let’s not forget that they are the same people lying about Brexit and responsible for this disaster
Neither can exist while the other survives. Hopefully.
As much as I dislike reform, they’re going to be in power eventually
We’re in for a bumpy few decades
This isnt a success for reform, its labour and conservatives failure to unite.
Polls in the first year after an election are completely irrelevant.
It is a bit of a warning to Labour that they need to actually get control of immigration though, that’s the main reason people say they’d vote for Reform.
They will win the next election. They are doing well and Elon hasn’t even properly started pushing them yet.
Labour had an amazing opportunity to really cement themselves as a party for the people and they have don’t nothing but tow the Tory line. Just like the conservatives handed this election to t Labour, Labour are now handing it to reform.
Anyone thinking of voting for them please please read their economic policy.
It’s worse than Truss. It’s a fantasy of free money to make Corbyn blush.
Labour needs to stress that Reform economic policies will be similar or even worse than Truss. Labour needs to impress in economy and control migration and Reform will have no chance.
Ah fuck
The only thing worse than a Tory and Reform coalition to form Government rather than Labour is a Tory Reform coalition where Reform are the bigger partner
Weird, this was also a headline two weeks ago.
Which time was the “first time”?
Must be a slow news weekend.
You would think after Trump was elected and watching him dismantle America., folk would back offReform. Being associated with racist bigots is a bad look. Allowing a Nazi to interfere, Elon is disgusting.Thought us better than than that. Hoping this is only a glitch.
People like to forget that Farage was one of the dipshits that catapulted UK into what it is now. Putting them in charge will just make things even worse because they’re philosophically Tories v2.1
The left need an outsider party, with someone like Mick Lynch to lead
The government needs to build millions of affordable houses and give more access to public transport. Fascism flourish because people are afraid of losing their properties, house, car and job, to socialism.
Fucking corrupt media bullshit hoping to see what’s happened in the US happen here! Fuck farage and his party of fascists
All that’s going to happen is that the right wing vote will be split and Labour will win again.
Will Labour ever start listening to the issues which the majority of UK care about?
Or will they only ever pander to the “community” who vote for Labour seats in inner city areas?
It scares the hell out of me. Why are people so gullible?! I guess the point here is how low the Tories have fallen rather than anything else? Normal people aren’t worrying about polling with 3+ years left till an election.
That said, I don’t think Starmer is prepared for the next one and Labour absolutely should be working hard to make sure they don’t concede to Farrage of all people. The UK can’t stoop that low, surely?
Potentially an unpopular opinion but this is most likely because of who is leading the Tory party. Matter of fact I would put bets on it being the case. News just in degenerate racists and xenophobes don’t like a black woman in power…shock.
I wonder how many will actually support them on the NHS issue alone?
Funny how people accuse those who vote reform as being racist pigs, rather than consider what’s making them vote this way. The assumption is always ‘they’re stupid racists’ rather than being open to hearing their grievances. The elitist/classism is really showing. You aren’t better than them, as they aren’t better than you