I recently came across this video which discusses how the tech leaders may be using the new US administration to achieve their own agenda.
In recent years, a fascinating and somewhat unsettling trend has emerged among Silicon Valley’s tech elite: a push to rethink traditional governance. High-profile figures and venture capitalists are exploring concepts like network states, crypto-driven societies, and even privately governed cities.
Prominent names such as Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, and Balaji Srinivasan are leading this charge. Many in this group believe that America is in decline and that the solution isn’t reform but a complete reimagining of society.
Balaji Srinivasan, a former Coinbase CTO and Andreessen Horowitz partner, has been one of the biggest advocates for this idea. He popularized the concept of "network states"—decentralized virtual communities that aim to acquire physical land and eventually function as independent nations. In his book The Network State, Srinivasan outlines a blueprint for running these communities like corporations.
Interestingly, this vision isn’t entirely new. Curtis Yarvin (also known as Mencius Moldbug) first introduced the idea of “Patchwork,” a system where small, corporate-run sovereign territories replace traditional governments. These "patches" would prioritize efficiency over public opinion and maintain control through technologies like biometric surveillance. Although Yarvin's ideas are often described as dystopian, they’ve had a significant influence on thinkers like Peter Thiel.
One of the most developed attempts to create a network state is Praxis, a project backed by Thiel and other major investors. Praxis envisions a global corporate governance model where crypto serves as the primary currency. Similar experiments include Prospera in Honduras and Afropolitan in Africa.
These initiatives are often pitched as promoting freedom and innovation, but critics warn that they risk becoming corporate dictatorships. The heavy use of surveillance technologies, exclusionary policies, and a focus on controlling physical land raise concerns about the true motives behind these projects.
Figures like JD Vance, who openly discusses Yarvin's ideas and has ties to Thiel, further suggest a coordinated effort to reshape governance in America and beyond.
Trump has also floated the idea of "Freedom Cities" on federal land, framed as hubs of imagination and progress. Given his connections to figures like Thiel, there’s a notable overlap between this proposal and Silicon Valley’s vision for privately governed cities.
Silicon Valley’s influence on governance is expanding, and ideas once considered fringe are gaining traction. Some see this as a bold response to outdated systems, and others view it as a dangerous shift toward authoritarian corporate rule.
What are your thoughts on this ? Are we seeing the complete overhaul of the American political system ? And if yes, will "they" win ?
The Billionaire Blueprint to Dismantle Democracy and Build a Digital Nation
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“Although Yarvins ideas are often described as dystopian”
Yeah. OK. I’ve seen enough.
It’s a dangerous time. I think your analysis is correct; the tech billionaires are working to overthrow democracy and replace it with their own vision of the future.
I don’t think they’ll win, but we are in for a rough ride and they can do some damage in the meantime.
People who couldn’t handle basic hygiene during a pandemic or eggs that are a few dollars more expensive surely are clamoring for a complete overhaul of the society they’re accustomed to.
Wild that I just reread Snow Crash, and now they’re building it.
I am so worried about all of this. It is a coup.
On Saturday the DOGE team strongarmed their way to control the United States Treasury Payment system.
I have been sick to my stomach with anxiety ever since.
They – an unelected group of private citizens who don’t have security clearance – have taken the power of the purse away from the United States Congress.
They have no oversight and are canning sworn federal civil servants every day. This is completely beyond their authority. They can withhold payments from Social Security, VA Disability, federal employees, contractors, anyone they find “inconvenient.”
Regardless of political leaning, this is completely anti-Democracy.
Dark Gothic MAGA is a net loss for everyone.
The billionaires have seized the executive branch and have no checks and balances.
Chaos and accelerationism plays into their hand.
Unless something changes and fast, I don’t foresee it getting better. We will be the serfs in their techno-feudalist kingdoms.
I stocked up on groceries and gas yesterday. Withdrew plenty of cash. We don’t know how ugly it will turn out to be, or how long.
See r/fednews for more info.
Over my dead body and the bodies of millions (billions?) of others. But I suspect that’s a feature not a bug to people like Thiel, Musk, and Yarvin.
This is just Snow Crash. Yarvin read Snow Crash.
If you wanna know what’s coming, read Snow Crash lol
If this is true:
This is deceitful.
The leaders of the GOP are liars.
This is a giant con and Trump was the perfect tool.
Wrap your self in the flag. Call yourselves “Patriots”.
Tell the disenfranchised you will cater to their every need and put them first.
Then implement a strategy that was never discussed openly on the campaign trail.
Because if it was discussed openly these traitors known it would not stand a snowballs chance in hell because this is the death of democracy.
And the MAGA stooges were the rubes that facilitated this coup.
I saw Adam Mockler watching this tonight, then I watched through it myself.
Very interesting info that I hadn’t seen before, but basically their ideas for future mini-states sounds horrific to me.
They just want a new frontier to colonize and run however they deem fit.
So many people don’t even know what is Halle ing. By the time they realize it because they’re suffering it will be too late. I already think it’s too late.
* Digital facsist oligarchy
Here. Fixed it for you
All the tech that we have benefitted from and enjoyed is going to become our enemy before long.
Aren’t Yarvin’s “ideas” basically the themes/settings of Neal Stephenson’s books since like forever? Not sure how he’s getting credit for it.
It just seems like the latest flavor of ‘anarchy’ – lack of overall big government, mostly smaller ‘organizations’. Most of which started as more like visions of large self-governing communes, but a lot more anarcho capitalist visions have also popped up.
I’m never clear in any of the scenarios why people think things would remain relatively peaceful between said ‘communes’ or ‘network states’ or ‘tribes’ or what not, when the entire history of humanity shows there’s always someone who will push to grab more resources and conquer the neighbor…
I consider myself a futurist, and at times I’m tempted to believe that they really are trying to build something better by tearing down the old. But then I look at the horribly flawed, vainglorious, petty, spiteful, stupid people at the center of it, and I know in my heart that what they’re trying to do will be bad for all of us.
These fucking smooth brained tech bros want their LARP alternative reality games to. E real life. Shit won’t work. It’ll be just like when the libertarians ruined a Vermont town with bears because they wouldn’t pay for garbage service.
These mofos trying to apply Agile as a way to govern people. Bunch of wankers.
Of course they want this, they all aspire to be like P-Diddy or Epstein minus the publicity and repercussions. We build our society with laws and bounderies because we all know that we shouldn’t give power to those who seek to control and rule others. Unfortunatly the Capitalist endgame results in monopolistic and concentrated accumulations of wealth, power and knowledge surpassing any power a government might hold.
> What are your thoughts on this ?
Hard no. Absolutely not. The proposed plan of governance is one that should be resisted with all possible means, including violence if required.
That’s a techno-dystopian nightmare that cannot be tolerated. It’s just a return to a sort of neo-feudalism.
People paid enough blood and tears getting rid of the aristocracy the first time. Letting it come back is completely unacceptable.
Musk must already be thinking that when his plans are fully realized, he won’t need a bumbling idiot like Trump around. In Musk’s government presidents will be passe.
Fuck Elon the illegal South African that needs to be arrested and deported immediately!
A cashless, high- surveillance police state; A “prison planet” if you’ll allow the phrase. Isn’t this just like the “ new world order” conspiracy all of the maga retards were barking about a few years ago?
Digital fiefdoms just don’t have the same ring to it.
The problem with most of these ideas is that they are completely unsustainable and were made by people who got most of their history from a Julian Fellows show and their vision from playing cyberpunk 2077.
Anyone with even a superficial understanding of history, governance and politics will tell you how much of a stupid idea this all is. Take the idea of free cities they float. The US toyed with this after independence, but it became quickly obvious that 13 loose colonies would be left at the whim of the European powers of the day.
They are absolutely stupid enough to try this crap though.
Dunning–Kruger effect in full swing. These billionaires have no fucking clue how to make working society.
Did you ever read Snowcrash by Neal Stephenson? They’re talking about the BurbClaves.
The goal isn’t to re-imagine the United States – it’s to crash the federal government. Dissolve it, and establish Micro-states in its place.
It’s high school Ayn Randianism, being pushed by the wealthiest people in the world with zero accountability.
Imagine the United Chicago South-Side Networked state, ‘owned’ by one of these dudes. They want to run them like businesses: they set the rules (Terms of Citizenship) – if you don’t like it, leave. Microstates with bad rules will dwindle, the good ones will grow. If you’re busy patting yourself on the back for making a shit ton of money you’d see yourself as the best kind of benevolent dictator: why not just make it real?
This is the plot line of dozens of dystopian stories.
How far could this realistically go? Honestly, I think not nearly as far as their vision. There are a bunch of Microstates in the world today (Zealand, and hilariously Vatican City). The note above about ‘Freedom Cities’ on federal land sounds pretty plausible. Devolving to something like Oryx & Crake, [Elysium](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elysium_(film)), or Blade Runner 2049 seems rather far fetched. But the thing standing between us & those kinds of outcomes is mostly the bureaucratic inertia of the U. S. Government. And from what I hear – it’s under pretty serious attack.
So here’s what the Thiels and Andreessens of the world have to look forward to: Their doomsday bunkers violently seized by their own security teams. The men guarding the rich are trained to form a team and violently achieve goals. Those skills of force will be priceless in post-government anarchy. Enjoy it for now, Marc and Peter, because those ex-Special Forces operators you hired will rule their fiefdoms literally over your dead bodies.
The thing is, this isn’t really that new. It was called “feudalism,” and it sucked.
[Watch this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcSil8NeQq8&ab_channel=NewYorkTimesPodcasts)
The tech bros want to destroy the current US so they can rebuild it in their image.
Curtis Yarvin, a controversial political theorist, holds several radical ideas about the United States:
1. Democracy has failed and should be replaced with a monarchy-like system led by a CEO-dictator.
2. American institutions, including mainstream media and academia, are controlled by progressive groupthink and should be dismantled.
3. The government bureaucracy needs a significant overhaul.
4. The U.S. is governed by what he calls “the Cathedral,” a collaboration between media, political elites, and special interests that needs to be overthrown.
5. The country should be transformed into a patchwork of techno-monarchies run by authoritarian CEOs.
6. An effective and efficient government, modeled after private companies like Apple, would better serve people’s lives.
7. The current democratic system is fragile and unable to address unpopular policies.
8. Society needs a “hard reset” or “rebooting” rather than gradual political reforms.
9. He advocates for “neo-cameralism,” where the government is run like a corporation with shareholders electing an executive with total power.
10. Yarvin supports authoritarianism on right-libertarian grounds, arguing that strong governments with clear hierarchies remain minimal and focused.
These ideas have gained traction among some influential figures in Silicon Valley and the incoming Trump administration
Been saying for a long time we are on the way to Cyberpunk without the cool cyberware. Sounds about right.
I’ve tried watching the linked video a few times before and i can never get through it. I’m not quite sure why but it’s unwatchable for me. I find your summary 100x better than the video.
These ideas of ‘network states’, ‘patchwork cities’, etc don’t at all seem like what musk is after. Maybe I’m not understanding it correctly but it doesn’t seem like musk is interested in any patchwork of autonomous decentralized states. Given his recent meddling in German and English politics, it seems like he’s trying for a fascist empire that extends beyond the US. It seems to me like he’s seeing if he can dominate the entire chess board.