Boeing has informed its employees that NASA may cancel SLS contracts
https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/02/boeing-has-informed-its-employees-that-nasa-may-cancel-sls-contracts/
Boeing has informed its employees that NASA may cancel SLS contracts
https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/02/boeing-has-informed-its-employees-that-nasa-may-cancel-sls-contracts/
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Boeing is a hot mess. Big financial losses. Horrible leadership.
Boeing is scum. If you are upset about this, then you should check your priorities
You would think that the primes would be investing in reusable rocket technology. Instead you have 3 or 4 other names in the space that seem to be more favored by the market.
as they should have. these dudes are a hot mess and should not see another nasa contract again
Couldn’t possibly be because they have taken billions of dollars and provided virtually nothing.
This should have happened a long time ago. I’m not going to complain.
I have mixed feelings about this. The Senate Lunch System is a huge waste of money and should be cut. But the fact that it’s being cut most likely because of Elon’s self-dealing and not because NASA saw the error of their ways puts a big damper on what should be good news.
SLS has been doomed almost since inception. Could/would Orion launch on something else? Falcon Heavy perhaps?
Putting Elon’s stuff to the side for a minute, Starship would be the better platform, but they have to get it in orbit first and maybe some type of crew compartment. And you know, blow up less.
Is anyone else close to a moon capable launch vehicle?
Hey Boeing, hire me. I will work for less. $500,000 to $600,000 a year salary.
Move to hire engineers, and necessary techncial people who actually know what the eff is happening and put them in charge of running the programs rather than someone who wears a suite and puts money over safety. All bonuses will be pushed to the employees to ensure we retain top talent. If my salary increases by 10%, all employees’ salaries will increase by 20%. If my salary does not increase, salary for employees will rise as per performance review and company profitability.
OP’s entire history is jerking off Elon – don’t engage y’all
SLS is a mess.
But I have zero faith that this move will be anything but some self dealing corruption for Trump and Co.
Eh. I have mixed feelings. Sure, SLS isn’t perfect. It’s expensive and has taken forever. Boeing is a mess.
But it works. It goes to the Moon. Nothing else does.
You can tell me that spacex could send something into orbit and assemble it there, but that hasn’t actually ever been done or tested.
Starship can “theoretically” go to the moon but it is not anywhere close yet.
SLS gets the job done, we have it. I’d like to see them develop it and build upon it.
It would be a shame to just trash everything and start over, and hope that SpaceX can get it done “somehow”
Some confusing comments so far. Removing SLS has no alternative? How about pairing Orion with ICPS and Falcon Heavy, which was being considered until Shelby shut it down? Better yet, now that New Glenn has finally launched, it can vie for some contracts too. Starship isn’t the only option.
Another victory here is that without SLS, there’s no need for Mobile Launcher 2. Ditch that worthless moving plank and you save a huge sum of money through capitalizing on infrastructure you already have.
There are reasonable concerns to be had regarding SpaceX’s current dominance, but so long as NASA invests in other options (i.e. by taking full advantage of the commercial sector), I don’t see a reason why Artemis would collapse. Delayed, yes; devastated, no.
Genuinely what is the rationale for killing SLS. At least through Artemis III it’s the most mature portion of the Artemis architecture. Killing it is ceding the next crewed lunar landing to China.
Wonder how Republicans feel that their pork barrel is gone
As long as the RS-25s end up in a museum I’ll be happy
People say that by canceling SLS, NASA will be free to do more interesting things, but the reality is that money will simply disappear from its budget. We are seeing the dismantling of government in favor of private companies. Just yesterday Eric Berger reported that the Trump team wants to cut the National Science Foundation’s budget by two thirds. This is the main source of grants for astronomy research in the country. The US will lose its position as the main science and technology hub in the world due to a blind desire to cut costs, which in reality is just rich people looking to pay less taxes and hoard all the wealth for themselves.
As well NASA should. Boeing (yesterday’s technology today!) is going absolutely nowhere in an excruciatingly slow, obscenely expensive manner.
SLS is a mess, but if we cancel it now, there’s no way we’re getting back to the moon this decade. That being said, there’s no guarantee we’d get there with SLS either, but at least there’s a decent chance.
Yeah, how is Elon poking around NASA not a conflict?
Okay so now take an SLS and go beat the F’ing Chinese to bring back Mars Samples! We gotta do something with these since we will let Elons Starship and it’s 10 refueling missions to get one ship to the Moon!!!!
Is it really NASA’s call? Can’t Congress force NASA to continue it? That’s why its called the Senate Launch System…
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
|Fewer Letters|More Letters|
|——-|———|—|
|[CSA](/r/Space/comments/1ik7hbn/stub/mbk93zv “Last usage”)|Canadian Space Agency|
|CST|(Boeing) Crew Space Transportation capsules|
| |Central Standard Time (UTC-6)|
|[ESA](/r/Space/comments/1ik7hbn/stub/mbk93zv “Last usage”)|European Space Agency|
|[ESM](/r/Space/comments/1ik7hbn/stub/mbkk64q “Last usage”)|European Service Module, component of the Orion capsule|
|[EUS](/r/Space/comments/1ik7hbn/stub/mbkf0ti “Last usage”)|Exploration Upper Stage|
|[FAA](/r/Space/comments/1ik7hbn/stub/mbkhz1i “Last usage”)|Federal Aviation Administration|
|[HLS](/r/Space/comments/1ik7hbn/stub/mbkl0wc “Last usage”)|[Human Landing System](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis_program#Human_Landing_System) (Artemis)|
|[ICPS](/r/Space/comments/1ik7hbn/stub/mbkfgyu “Last usage”)|Interim Cryogenic Propulsion Stage|
|[JAXA](/r/Space/comments/1ik7hbn/stub/mbk93zv “Last usage”)|Japan Aerospace eXploration Agency|
|[KSC](/r/Space/comments/1ik7hbn/stub/mbkepqi “Last usage”)|Kennedy Space Center, Florida|
|[LEO](/r/Space/comments/1ik7hbn/stub/mbkj1ae “Last usage”)|Low Earth Orbit (180-2000km)|
| |Law Enforcement Officer (most often mentioned during transport operations)|
|[LLO](/r/Space/comments/1ik7hbn/stub/mbkm5sl “Last usage”)|Low Lunar Orbit (below 100km)|
|[LOC](/r/Space/comments/1ik7hbn/stub/mbkg736 “Last usage”)|Loss of Crew|
|[MBA](/r/Space/comments/1ik7hbn/stub/mbkj6oo “Last usage”)|~~Moonba-~~ Mars Base Alpha|
|[NRHO](/r/Space/comments/1ik7hbn/stub/mbkl583 “Last usage”)|Near-Rectilinear Halo Orbit|
|[NSF](/r/Space/comments/1ik7hbn/stub/mbkfvs9 “Last usage”)|[NasaSpaceFlight forum](http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com)|
| |National Science Foundation|
|[SLS](/r/Space/comments/1ik7hbn/stub/mbkl0wc “Last usage”)|Space Launch System heavy-lift|
|[SSME](/r/Space/comments/1ik7hbn/stub/mbkc4k5 “Last usage”)|[Space Shuttle Main Engine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_main_engine)|
|[STS](/r/Space/comments/1ik7hbn/stub/mbkiwjq “Last usage”)|Space Transportation System (*Shuttle*)|
|[TLI](/r/Space/comments/1ik7hbn/stub/mbkiwjq “Last usage”)|Trans-Lunar Injection maneuver|
|[ULA](/r/Space/comments/1ik7hbn/stub/mbkbgdr “Last usage”)|United Launch Alliance (Lockheed/Boeing joint venture)|
|[VAB](/r/Space/comments/1ik7hbn/stub/mbkepqi “Last usage”)|Vehicle Assembly Building|
|Jargon|Definition|
|——-|———|—|
|[Starliner](/r/Space/comments/1ik7hbn/stub/mbkg736 “Last usage”)|Boeing commercial crew capsule [CST-100](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_CST-100_Starliner)|
|[Starlink](/r/Space/comments/1ik7hbn/stub/mbkj1ae “Last usage”)|SpaceX’s world-wide satellite broadband constellation|
|[cislunar](/r/Space/comments/1ik7hbn/stub/mbkl0wc “Last usage”)|Between the Earth and Moon; within the Moon’s orbit|
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I have no great love for Boeing but does Leon Smuk have his fingers in this?
That might actually get Congress to do something.
SLS had its problems, but this still seems awful for the future of Artemis. I hope I’m wrong.
Boeing can barely keep airplanes in the air, why should they be trusted with spaceflight…?
This was the right decision and here’s a great video I’ve found here before to explain why this program should have been shut down a long time ago.
https://youtu.be/OoJsPvmFixU
This is Boeing’s own doing. Absolutely tragic that such a company could fall so far.
This should have already been obvious to them. SLS is almost certainly going to be cancelled. It costs 10x more than it needs to be