> Today more British people live in this booming Emirati city than in Oxford: at least 180,000…
> … Katy Holmes, head of the British Chamber of Commerce Dubai, said she “would feel comfortable” to say there are more than 180,000 Britons living in Dubai. Oxford Economics thinks it could be as many as 250,000 — equivalent to the population of Southampton — since Britons made up 6.7 per cent of the population in 2022.
> Some surveys suggest the UAE is now the third most popular destination for people leaving the UK…
theyau on
Wouldn’t mind them taking the actual population of Southampton
Visa5e on
It’s an overpriced shopping centre in the desert. It’s only use is for tryhards to impress other tryhards.
Grayson81 on
> Dubai has more Brits than Oxford.
What a weird frame of reference. What is anyone supposed to understand from that fact?
> Is it all it’s cracked up to be?
No.
Frosty-Schedule-7315 on
Well, Dubai is essentially built on slave migrant labour so if you’re well off and don’t have a conscience then of course you’ll live well there.
ImplementNo7036 on
Wow, a major international city has more Brits than a town of 160k people, not all of whom will be Brits! Who would’ve thought?!?
TheHeavenSeventeen on
It’s a dismal hellhole. Worked there for a few months, turned down every contract since. You literally could not pay me to go there again.
_HGCenty on
“Dear ChatGPT, please find me a list of medium sized cities in the UK with a small enough population so I can misleadingly compare to a major international hub.”
Andy1723 on
I expected to not like Dubai. But I did. It’s clean and safe. For all of its criticisms they’re creating a nice environment for the people who live there.
paganinipannini on
Dubai is a human rights violating paradise for sociopaths and narcissists.
I had to live there for 2 years. Awful place.
Dean-Advocate665 on
I’m sorry but if someone claims the UK is awful and then follows that up with a desire to move to Dubai, I am 100% going to judge that person.
Is it all it’s cracked up to be? Well, you could probably make more money and live a higher standard of life, but at what cost? I’m not one for moral grandstanding, go live where you want. But if you choose to go and live in a, let’s face it, autocratic oil state in the middle of the dessert because of less tax, well you should probably expect to be judged for it.
DSQ on
My sister worked there for a while and said it was fun for a while but not forever.
50_61S-----165_97E on
You can tell a lot about a British person by their opinions on Dubai
pajamakitten on
It appeals to a certain type of person (almost none of whom will be on Reddit). If you like shopping, hotels and cheap experiences then it might be for you. It means being OK with overlooking slavery, obeying strict laws on displays of affection in public, and enjoying the shallowness of it all, but if you can do that then I am sure it is lovely.
JoeBagadonut on
It’s a tacky and soulless amusement park built by slaves for people who unironically have live laugh love cushions in their homes and veneers brighter than the surface of the sun.
lordnacho666 on
How far down do I have to scroll before I see the word tax?
You wouldn’t go there if they taxed you at 50%, would you? And when did you ever have a conversation about Dubai where tax was not mentioned?
Everything else is a side story. Streets are clean? What a nice bonus. Lots of restaurants? How nice.
Flashy-Ambition4840 on
It’s a flawed place that pays well with the chance of extreme opportunities. It’s not for everyone, that’s for sure.
Banana_Tortoise on
It’s an excellent spot for criminals from the UK to head to.
It’s the modern day Spain for our serious and organised criminals to flee to and continue running their operations from.
While I’m sure many decent Brits live there, Dubai has a good intake of UK criminals living there. If we can stop their operations here, Dubai are actually doing us a favour taking our problems over there.
Happy-Formal4435 on
Dubai is a shit hole, where shit flushes into the lorry.
coffeewalnut05 on
I don’t think it’s what it’s cracked up to be.
Being objective, the money and career opportunities for people like me are likely to be very good. But I don’t really want to exchange our mild temperatures and lush green landscapes for life in the dry desert. Also, I hate AC. That artificial cold makes me shudder.
wm_1176 on
City with 3.5 million population has more ______ than city with 150k population.
Show me shocked
OldSchoolRollie62 on
Dubai is just a flashy prison. Couldn’t pay me to go there.
shaf74 on
Went there on a 2 day stopover on our way back from the Maldives for our honeymoon. It was fucking awful. Tacky as fuck and the only way you’re going to be able to do all the cool stuff you see on TV is if you’re absolutely minted.
JayR_97 on
I’ve heard too many horror stories of people ending up on the wrong side of the law over there because they didn’t know any better. IMO it’s not worth it
PurahsHero on
Lived there for 6 months. If your only motivations in life are money and status it’s paradise. Otherwise, you are selling your soul.
wlondonmatt on
Dubai is fine if you want to live in a country sized westfields built on slavery and treating women like toilets.
buggeryorkshire on
Worked for a Dubai based company, was looking at moving there. Nope. It’s as if Katie Price designed a city.
Many reasons for this, but I do remember going out of the hotel room and it being 46c then seeing the same Indian guys working on a new skyscraper out all day long in it – utterly brutal, you can’t treat people like that.
DaveBeBad on
And it even has its own reform MP who spends as much time there as in London…
v3bbkZif6TjGR38KmfyL on
Dubai has more Brits than Antarctica. You heard it here first.
Classy56 on
UAE has no income tax, capital gains tax, inheritance tax and 5% sales tax. I can see from a tax point of view why it is appealing
NarcolepticPhysicist on
Only if you want to live as a product of essentially slave labour…..
ParkedUpWithCoffee on
180,000 Brits in an Arab city of 3.7 million is quite a high percentage. Presumably most plan to earn crazy money for a decade or so before eventually returning to the UK (potentially being able to buy a home mortgage-free).
longestswim on
Somebody once described Dubai as a sweaty Canary Wharf and that’s spot on.
elliott2106 on
All you need to know about Dubai is that the tallest building in the world, the Burj Khalifa, has no plumbing so they have to get people to shovel up the shit every day and dump it in the desert. not so impressive now huh? it’s a facade.
trbd003 on
The interesting thing about Dubai is that all the people with the strongest protestations of what an absolute shit hole it is, have never been. Also, a lot of those people probably live in an extremely mediocre two up two down in a modest middle England small town, and are quite happy with a lifestyle that revolves around tending to the garden and popping into the local on a Friday night. And that’s fine. The trouble is that because they have those tiny, easily entertained, unambitious minds… They forget that not everyone does too.
I shall try to answer this question too but as somebody who has lived there for 3 years but does not live there anymore.
The first thing worth saying is that I love Dubai. You get paid more money for doing the same thing as you would at home, and your quality of life is much higher. It’s easier to pay other people to do all the things that you would normally have to do yourself, which makes it easier to focus on doing the things you enjoy. It’s quite easy to engage with expat communities and have hobbies there you wouldn’t have at home. It’s a great place to have kids. As a city it’s very safe so letting them get out and explore is much easier than it would be in London. The quality of education for white people is generally very high and they’ll get opportunities they wouldn’t get at home. All my friends still there have very healthy, mature, well spoken kids who’ve grown up with mutli-culturalism being normal, which is a definite asset. The weather is nice and the additional vitamin D meant I found myself getting up and going out more than I ever did at home. Morning swims, cycling on dedicated tracks, things I’d never do at home. I had a lot of friends there and we’d regularly go out for dinner, watch rugby together in the pub, late nights drinking nice wine in hotel gardens… It was a mature, relaxed, happy lifestyle.
But… For me the problem was that it was never real. It all just feels like it could come crashing down at any moment. You’re investing in a life that you know you can’t live forever. And the workplace was challenging. I value my work but dubai is a race to the bottom. You can be onto something great but it’s always only a matter of time before the Lebanese come and do it cheaper and then the Indians come and do it even cheaper and there is no market for Westerners in it anymore. It moves fast and it suits people who don’t get too attached to stuff and can move with it.
I fucking love dubai and I challenge anyone to say that it has no heart or soul, after spending any amount of time there. Those people are mostly just bitter, jealous old farts who wish they’d done more with their lives. Dubai is brilliant. But for people who need to feel at home, the fact that we will always be expats, living on our work visas, means nothing ever really feels permanent and for a lot of us, that’s a deal breaker. So to that end, its exactly why it works for people with an objective. A goal to work towards. Move there, live the dream, achieve the objective, but come home before it burns out.
Beginning-Sundae8760 on
If a grey crushed velvet sitting room was a city, it’d be Dubai
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> Today more British people live in this booming Emirati city than in Oxford: at least 180,000…
> … Katy Holmes, head of the British Chamber of Commerce Dubai, said she “would feel comfortable” to say there are more than 180,000 Britons living in Dubai. Oxford Economics thinks it could be as many as 250,000 — equivalent to the population of Southampton — since Britons made up 6.7 per cent of the population in 2022.
> Some surveys suggest the UAE is now the third most popular destination for people leaving the UK…
Wouldn’t mind them taking the actual population of Southampton
It’s an overpriced shopping centre in the desert. It’s only use is for tryhards to impress other tryhards.
> Dubai has more Brits than Oxford.
What a weird frame of reference. What is anyone supposed to understand from that fact?
> Is it all it’s cracked up to be?
No.
Well, Dubai is essentially built on slave migrant labour so if you’re well off and don’t have a conscience then of course you’ll live well there.
Wow, a major international city has more Brits than a town of 160k people, not all of whom will be Brits! Who would’ve thought?!?
It’s a dismal hellhole. Worked there for a few months, turned down every contract since. You literally could not pay me to go there again.
“Dear ChatGPT, please find me a list of medium sized cities in the UK with a small enough population so I can misleadingly compare to a major international hub.”
I expected to not like Dubai. But I did. It’s clean and safe. For all of its criticisms they’re creating a nice environment for the people who live there.
Dubai is a human rights violating paradise for sociopaths and narcissists.
I had to live there for 2 years. Awful place.
I’m sorry but if someone claims the UK is awful and then follows that up with a desire to move to Dubai, I am 100% going to judge that person.
Is it all it’s cracked up to be? Well, you could probably make more money and live a higher standard of life, but at what cost? I’m not one for moral grandstanding, go live where you want. But if you choose to go and live in a, let’s face it, autocratic oil state in the middle of the dessert because of less tax, well you should probably expect to be judged for it.
My sister worked there for a while and said it was fun for a while but not forever.
You can tell a lot about a British person by their opinions on Dubai
It appeals to a certain type of person (almost none of whom will be on Reddit). If you like shopping, hotels and cheap experiences then it might be for you. It means being OK with overlooking slavery, obeying strict laws on displays of affection in public, and enjoying the shallowness of it all, but if you can do that then I am sure it is lovely.
It’s a tacky and soulless amusement park built by slaves for people who unironically have live laugh love cushions in their homes and veneers brighter than the surface of the sun.
How far down do I have to scroll before I see the word tax?
You wouldn’t go there if they taxed you at 50%, would you? And when did you ever have a conversation about Dubai where tax was not mentioned?
Everything else is a side story. Streets are clean? What a nice bonus. Lots of restaurants? How nice.
It’s a flawed place that pays well with the chance of extreme opportunities. It’s not for everyone, that’s for sure.
It’s an excellent spot for criminals from the UK to head to.
It’s the modern day Spain for our serious and organised criminals to flee to and continue running their operations from.
While I’m sure many decent Brits live there, Dubai has a good intake of UK criminals living there. If we can stop their operations here, Dubai are actually doing us a favour taking our problems over there.
Dubai is a shit hole, where shit flushes into the lorry.
I don’t think it’s what it’s cracked up to be.
Being objective, the money and career opportunities for people like me are likely to be very good. But I don’t really want to exchange our mild temperatures and lush green landscapes for life in the dry desert. Also, I hate AC. That artificial cold makes me shudder.
City with 3.5 million population has more ______ than city with 150k population.
Show me shocked
Dubai is just a flashy prison. Couldn’t pay me to go there.
Went there on a 2 day stopover on our way back from the Maldives for our honeymoon. It was fucking awful. Tacky as fuck and the only way you’re going to be able to do all the cool stuff you see on TV is if you’re absolutely minted.
I’ve heard too many horror stories of people ending up on the wrong side of the law over there because they didn’t know any better. IMO it’s not worth it
Lived there for 6 months. If your only motivations in life are money and status it’s paradise. Otherwise, you are selling your soul.
Dubai is fine if you want to live in a country sized westfields built on slavery and treating women like toilets.
Worked for a Dubai based company, was looking at moving there. Nope. It’s as if Katie Price designed a city.
Many reasons for this, but I do remember going out of the hotel room and it being 46c then seeing the same Indian guys working on a new skyscraper out all day long in it – utterly brutal, you can’t treat people like that.
And it even has its own reform MP who spends as much time there as in London…
Dubai has more Brits than Antarctica. You heard it here first.
UAE has no income tax, capital gains tax, inheritance tax and 5% sales tax. I can see from a tax point of view why it is appealing
Only if you want to live as a product of essentially slave labour…..
180,000 Brits in an Arab city of 3.7 million is quite a high percentage. Presumably most plan to earn crazy money for a decade or so before eventually returning to the UK (potentially being able to buy a home mortgage-free).
Somebody once described Dubai as a sweaty Canary Wharf and that’s spot on.
All you need to know about Dubai is that the tallest building in the world, the Burj Khalifa, has no plumbing so they have to get people to shovel up the shit every day and dump it in the desert. not so impressive now huh? it’s a facade.
The interesting thing about Dubai is that all the people with the strongest protestations of what an absolute shit hole it is, have never been. Also, a lot of those people probably live in an extremely mediocre two up two down in a modest middle England small town, and are quite happy with a lifestyle that revolves around tending to the garden and popping into the local on a Friday night. And that’s fine. The trouble is that because they have those tiny, easily entertained, unambitious minds… They forget that not everyone does too.
I shall try to answer this question too but as somebody who has lived there for 3 years but does not live there anymore.
The first thing worth saying is that I love Dubai. You get paid more money for doing the same thing as you would at home, and your quality of life is much higher. It’s easier to pay other people to do all the things that you would normally have to do yourself, which makes it easier to focus on doing the things you enjoy. It’s quite easy to engage with expat communities and have hobbies there you wouldn’t have at home. It’s a great place to have kids. As a city it’s very safe so letting them get out and explore is much easier than it would be in London. The quality of education for white people is generally very high and they’ll get opportunities they wouldn’t get at home. All my friends still there have very healthy, mature, well spoken kids who’ve grown up with mutli-culturalism being normal, which is a definite asset. The weather is nice and the additional vitamin D meant I found myself getting up and going out more than I ever did at home. Morning swims, cycling on dedicated tracks, things I’d never do at home. I had a lot of friends there and we’d regularly go out for dinner, watch rugby together in the pub, late nights drinking nice wine in hotel gardens… It was a mature, relaxed, happy lifestyle.
But… For me the problem was that it was never real. It all just feels like it could come crashing down at any moment. You’re investing in a life that you know you can’t live forever. And the workplace was challenging. I value my work but dubai is a race to the bottom. You can be onto something great but it’s always only a matter of time before the Lebanese come and do it cheaper and then the Indians come and do it even cheaper and there is no market for Westerners in it anymore. It moves fast and it suits people who don’t get too attached to stuff and can move with it.
I fucking love dubai and I challenge anyone to say that it has no heart or soul, after spending any amount of time there. Those people are mostly just bitter, jealous old farts who wish they’d done more with their lives. Dubai is brilliant. But for people who need to feel at home, the fact that we will always be expats, living on our work visas, means nothing ever really feels permanent and for a lot of us, that’s a deal breaker. So to that end, its exactly why it works for people with an objective. A goal to work towards. Move there, live the dream, achieve the objective, but come home before it burns out.
If a grey crushed velvet sitting room was a city, it’d be Dubai
Ask Prisoners Abroad (https://www.prisonersabroad.org.uk).
Or the guy who was detained for a negative Google review (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y74479yk4o.amp)
or the woman detained for attempting suicide (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c897jlr9274o.amp)
or the woman arrested for reporting rape (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38013351.amp)
Dubai is a religious autocracy marketing itself as a modern tax haven.
These comments😂
There’s a reason the traffic flow is one way.
The uk is toast. The UAE is in it’s ascendency. The quality of life for professionals is beyond anything the UK offers.
The safety, healthcare, tax regime, convenience, service, cost of accommodation, all blow the UK out of the water.
Yes, dubai lacks history and a theatre scene. Oh no.