All too believable, and totally insane. There are other foods to eat beside chicken nuggets.
LonelyStranger8467 on
Although the chicken nugget thing is a bit reductive of the overall reasoning, the other concerning thing is, as thousands did in the early 2000s, an Albanian claimed to be Yugoslavian (or more commonly Kosovan) with a false name. Still managed to stay.
Later turns out he’s a major criminal with €300,000 in cash from the proceeds of crime.
>An immigration tribunal ruled that it would be “unduly harsh” for the 10-year-old boy to be forced to move to Albania with his father owing to his sensitivity around food.
I’m sorry, what? Lol Telegraph doesn’t even need to do any actual journalistic work to cook up their usual drivel if they can just copy-paste these sorts of whimsical and nonsensical rulings.
Von_Uber on
What a quality newspaper The Telegraph has turned into.
Salty_Nutbag on
I’m torn on this.
On the one hand. Criminal.
On the other, we do some damn good chicken nuggets.
ObviouslyTriggered on
Did a foreign power managed to plant judges to crumple the country from within?
The soviets managed to capture students around the globe before the USSR crocked which poisoned a lot of international organizations decades later but I swear I can’t figure out what the fuck is up with these judges here, every ruling is now more insane than the previous one….
European countries don’t have nearly as much problems with the ECHR as the UK does, part of it is that none of them were insane enough to give it primacy over national laws but even those that did to some extent seem to have a far saner judiciary.
The ECHR has exemptions for national security, public safety and every other excuse for governments to be able to take out the trash. It’s indented to prevent a European government from becoming Nazi Germany not to be the reason why every lunatic and despot on the planet can stay.
They don’t like it they can fucking to go Strasbourg and lets see if the European Court of Human Rights would even bother to hear these cases since it rejects like 95% of appeals to the court outright…
The bench it seems has turned into a swamp that needs to be drained…..
PelayoEnjoyer on
Bollocks.
The pause isn’t for fucking nuggets.
>31. But considering the “Stay and Go” scenarios separately, we can only see in the decision a single example of why C could not go to Albania at [27]: “C will not eat the type of chicken nuggets that are available abroad”. *We are not persuaded that the addition of this sole example approaches anywhere near the level of harshness for a reasonable judge to find it to be “unduly” so.* Were C to remain in the UK, we cannot see how any reasonable judge could find that A, who is found by the Judge at [37] to be “robust and capable” would be incapable of caring for C without the appellant or that it would be unduly harshness for her to do so.
It’s been paused because they don’t have enough evidence on the effect on the kid (C) due to their assessor being a trainee and any diagnosis being ‘pending’, which is why it’s going to first tier tribunal.
>25. The plan also records that C is being seen by an educational psychologist. The judge was provided with a report dated 25.03.24 by Rachel Rabello (“the report”). However, she is a trainee educational psychologist, and no CV has been supplied, either for her or her supervisor. We agree with Ms McKenzie that any reasonable judge should be cautious in placing too much weight on a trainee’s report without knowing further how she came to be involved, what evidence there was of Ms Rabello’s experience, or why she was considered by C’s school to be the appropriate expert for C. Information from C’s teachers is mediated only through the report and the plan: these two documents are, in effect, the sum of the professional evidence. But in any event, as judge Behan herself noted at [40], there is no evidence to support the appellant’s contention that the support Ms Rabello recommends is unavailable, or even not readily available, in Albania. The judge’s reasoning at [41] exposes the crux of the evidential gap:
“I do not have a report from a professional that assesses the effect on C of moving to Albania or staying in the UK without his father however I consider [I] have sufficient information from his teachers as reported by Ms Rabello, Ms Rabello’s conclusions, and from his parents from which I may make a reasonable assessment of the likely effect on C.”
>26. The point is that none of the professional evidence considers the effect of C moving to Albania, or of C remaining in the UK without the appellant. Indeed, there is no more general prognosis for whether the assistance suggested by the report is likely to assist C, or whether the strategies set out in the plan have improved C’s situation overall. There is no confirmation of whether that assistance would be available in Albania or not. We do not, therefore, consider that the professional evidence, even taken at its height, is capable of demonstrating that the appellant’s deportation, with or without C, would be unduly harsh. In any event, we agree with Ms McKenzie that without a CV or information as to how Ms Rabello became involved with C, no reasonable judge could place any significant weight on her report. We turn to the rest of the evidence.
It’s pretty obvious to anyone that their claim is bullshit given their evidence so far, but it’s not the wrong type of nuggets that have paused it, it’s the process, be it intentional or accidental.
This is almost a comical sketch if it wasnt so serious. Soon as it was know he came to the UK with a false name he should have been returned to Albania
Asleep_Quit_2604 on
If the boy is that sensitive, his parents have done nothing good for him. Have him adopted, try get him a better upbringing and get the parents kicked out the country. His dad will only offer bad here
ComparisonAware1825 on
IM NOT GOING TO READ PAST THE HEADLINE BUT I AM VERY ANGRY ABOUT THIS
Felicitykendalshair on
Fucking Telegraph…..I have just read the tribunal decision and they have as usual grossly misrepresented the case.
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All too believable, and totally insane. There are other foods to eat beside chicken nuggets.
Although the chicken nugget thing is a bit reductive of the overall reasoning, the other concerning thing is, as thousands did in the early 2000s, an Albanian claimed to be Yugoslavian (or more commonly Kosovan) with a false name. Still managed to stay.
Later turns out he’s a major criminal with €300,000 in cash from the proceeds of crime.
https://tribunalsdecisions.service.gov.uk/utiac/ui-2024-004546
>An immigration tribunal ruled that it would be “unduly harsh” for the 10-year-old boy to be forced to move to Albania with his father owing to his sensitivity around food.
I’m sorry, what? Lol Telegraph doesn’t even need to do any actual journalistic work to cook up their usual drivel if they can just copy-paste these sorts of whimsical and nonsensical rulings.
What a quality newspaper The Telegraph has turned into.
I’m torn on this.
On the one hand. Criminal.
On the other, we do some damn good chicken nuggets.
Did a foreign power managed to plant judges to crumple the country from within?
The soviets managed to capture students around the globe before the USSR crocked which poisoned a lot of international organizations decades later but I swear I can’t figure out what the fuck is up with these judges here, every ruling is now more insane than the previous one….
European countries don’t have nearly as much problems with the ECHR as the UK does, part of it is that none of them were insane enough to give it primacy over national laws but even those that did to some extent seem to have a far saner judiciary.
The ECHR has exemptions for national security, public safety and every other excuse for governments to be able to take out the trash. It’s indented to prevent a European government from becoming Nazi Germany not to be the reason why every lunatic and despot on the planet can stay.
They don’t like it they can fucking to go Strasbourg and lets see if the European Court of Human Rights would even bother to hear these cases since it rejects like 95% of appeals to the court outright…
The bench it seems has turned into a swamp that needs to be drained…..
Bollocks.
The pause isn’t for fucking nuggets.
>31. But considering the “Stay and Go” scenarios separately, we can only see in the decision a single example of why C could not go to Albania at [27]: “C will not eat the type of chicken nuggets that are available abroad”. *We are not persuaded that the addition of this sole example approaches anywhere near the level of harshness for a reasonable judge to find it to be “unduly” so.* Were C to remain in the UK, we cannot see how any reasonable judge could find that A, who is found by the Judge at [37] to be “robust and capable” would be incapable of caring for C without the appellant or that it would be unduly harshness for her to do so.
It’s been paused because they don’t have enough evidence on the effect on the kid (C) due to their assessor being a trainee and any diagnosis being ‘pending’, which is why it’s going to first tier tribunal.
>25. The plan also records that C is being seen by an educational psychologist. The judge was provided with a report dated 25.03.24 by Rachel Rabello (“the report”). However, she is a trainee educational psychologist, and no CV has been supplied, either for her or her supervisor. We agree with Ms McKenzie that any reasonable judge should be cautious in placing too much weight on a trainee’s report without knowing further how she came to be involved, what evidence there was of Ms Rabello’s experience, or why she was considered by C’s school to be the appropriate expert for C. Information from C’s teachers is mediated only through the report and the plan: these two documents are, in effect, the sum of the professional evidence. But in any event, as judge Behan herself noted at [40], there is no evidence to support the appellant’s contention that the support Ms Rabello recommends is unavailable, or even not readily available, in Albania. The judge’s reasoning at [41] exposes the crux of the evidential gap:
“I do not have a report from a professional that assesses the effect on C of moving to Albania or staying in the UK without his father however I consider [I] have sufficient information from his teachers as reported by Ms Rabello, Ms Rabello’s conclusions, and from his parents from which I may make a reasonable assessment of the likely effect on C.”
>26. The point is that none of the professional evidence considers the effect of C moving to Albania, or of C remaining in the UK without the appellant. Indeed, there is no more general prognosis for whether the assistance suggested by the report is likely to assist C, or whether the strategies set out in the plan have improved C’s situation overall. There is no confirmation of whether that assistance would be available in Albania or not. We do not, therefore, consider that the professional evidence, even taken at its height, is capable of demonstrating that the appellant’s deportation, with or without C, would be unduly harsh. In any event, we agree with Ms McKenzie that without a CV or information as to how Ms Rabello became involved with C, no reasonable judge could place any significant weight on her report. We turn to the rest of the evidence.
It’s pretty obvious to anyone that their claim is bullshit given their evidence so far, but it’s not the wrong type of nuggets that have paused it, it’s the process, be it intentional or accidental.
https://tribunalsdecisions.service.gov.uk/utiac/ui-2024-004546
Slop article.
This is almost a comical sketch if it wasnt so serious. Soon as it was know he came to the UK with a false name he should have been returned to Albania
If the boy is that sensitive, his parents have done nothing good for him. Have him adopted, try get him a better upbringing and get the parents kicked out the country. His dad will only offer bad here
IM NOT GOING TO READ PAST THE HEADLINE BUT I AM VERY ANGRY ABOUT THIS
Fucking Telegraph…..I have just read the tribunal decision and they have as usual grossly misrepresented the case.
https://tribunalsdecisions.service.gov.uk/utiac/ui-2024-004546
If you can be arsed
The Telegraph – winner of this year’s media race to the bottom.
See the real story shared in the update here –
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Why do people even read telegraph or daily mail?
I swear these rags are now just testing out what ridiculous shit people will believe.