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    1. BlackSpinedPlinketto on

      I’ve seen Twitter and it was so nasty, I really feel for Beth, she’s done nothing at all wrong. I can’t believe what they have said about her never mind done.

      I’ve seen the doxxing and slander, absolutely unbelievable what people are link these days to trans people. It makes me angry this is our country now.

    2. Generic-Name03 on

      Nurse just happened to be a Trump supporter, colour me shocked. The link between TERFs and the far right just gets clearer by the day.

    3. Happytallperson on

      I just caught up with the transcript, and Sandie Peggie’s lawyer, Naomi Cunningham, is a vile nasty woman who should be disbarred. 

      Misgendering Dr Upton, *comparing her to a torturer in 1984*, basically bringing all the grace and tact of a twitter troll to the courtroom. 

      It’s plain this case is about extending Ms Peggie’s campaign of harassment and every lawyer who has engaged in conducting it should face sanction from their professional body. 

      Gratuitously deadnaming Beth in court, gratuitously misgendering, likening her to a torturer, bringing twitter troll and general ignoramus to give ‘expert’ evidence by accusing all trans people of being fetishists (which even if it wasn’t debunked bollocks Forstater is not competent to give such evidence) there is absolutely no way any of this is necessary to make their arguments to the court. 

      Unprofessional, bullying, vindictive [redacteds]

    4. solomachineist on

      This campaign from the Women’s First and Sex matters has been going on since Christmas time in 2023. It is horrific that she has been harassed for so long!

      The fact Sandie was walking away from patients and refusing to treat patients under Dr Upton’s direction (IE asking other staff to do what was asked of her when asked by Dr Upton) is one of the reasons she was suspended, the fact that she refused all reasonable accommodations where they wouldn’t have to interact with each other is why she wasn’t allowed back to work.

    5. This poor woman did absolutely nothing except go about her life, do her job and exist.

      Transphobes and anti-trans activists are the worst of the worst.

    6. The fact of the matter is that if a nurse can’t work with a trans colleague how can we trust them around trans patients. If this was a black person who had a problem with a white colleague the same people cheering on the nurse would call for them to be sacked

    7. TreacleOutrageous538 on

      She’s not a biological woman and the nurse is well within her rights to ask not to be forced to change in front of her!

    8. ParsnipPainter on

      This nurse seems like a real piece of shit. Just being cruel for the sake of it.

      Also, kind of mind-blowing that the Times correctly genders Dr Upton, but the BBC won’t. Rather undermines the claims of “left-wing bias”…

    9. While it is absolutely unacceptable for anyone to face harassment, contrary to other comments on this thread I have to say the fault here lies with NHS Fife.

      The Workplace (Health, Safety, and Welfare) Regulation 1992 stipulates that workplaces have to provide separate male and female changing facilities.

      Dr Upton is male, biologically and certainly at the time of the dispute legally (as they did not have a GRC).

      A female nurse, and victim of sexual assault (by a GP) was forced to change with someone obviously male, in contravention of the law. And when they complained, as they clearly should have the right to, found themselves harassed for it. I’m surprised by the apparent complete lack of concern for her and her wellbeing on this thread.

      In terms of pronouns, Dr Upton is testifying that they are not male, an astonishing position for a doctor. Given the centrality of the reality of sex to this case, it’s quite appropriate that counsel for the claimant should insist on using accurate sex pronouns.

      The employer, NHS Fife, really has handled this terribly. You can’t just pretend the law says what you’d prefer it to say. Single sex spaces exist for a reason. There were surely other ways to accommodate Dr Upton.

    10. This whole case is ridiculous. The nurse admitted she was the only one guilty of harassment, yet Dr Upton is the one under constant scrutiny… for what? Existing?!

    11. This was a workplace disagreement and should have been a workplace dispute, where workplace protections and rights come into play.

      Instead, this person has had their life turned upside down by extremists.

    12. the online transphobic hate mob has been incredibly noxious and abusive for years now, but because so many of them are british media figures – and, frankly, because they’re predominately middle-aged middle-class women, rather than weird young men like the prototypical internet troll – they get a pass for what is essentially 4chan-level conduct

    13. Why isn’t this post getting more activity? 
      It seems to me that people want to push a narrative and deny the struggles and public harassment of this doctor. Out of all people, they chose a peaceful doctor to attack. Clearly, she was just following the rules that allowed her to use the women’s changing rooms.    

    14. CagedRoseGarden on

      Our politicians are sleepwalking into the same mess the US is in if they let this sort of hate campaigning continue. Just a reminder that no sexual assault or similar crime at all occurred here, the idea of such a thing is complete fiction at this point to try and create a social bogeyman. Actual sexual assaults by colleagues don’t get this sort of minute by minute national coverage. This poor doctor has done absolutely nothing to deserve having their life picked apart like this.

    15. BadgerGirl1990 on

      If nothing else at least it’s becoming obvious now to most people that the terfs don’t have legitimate concerns it just is and always was bigotry.