Oh so *now* the Torygraph is put off by insane costs of deportation flights
Disastrous_Fruit1525 on
They can hardly use Ryanair. It would violate their human rights.
pageunresponsive on
If they use privet jets for immigrants, what will they use for deporting Ambanian criminals?
olimeillosmis on
£1m for a chartered A321 is too expensive though, Torygraph is right.
When pilot error on Voyager Flight 333 caused the entire RAF Voyager A330 MRTT fleet to be grounded, the RAF spent just £827,000 on chartered civilian flights to replace the rest of the fleet for 13 days of flights.
Personal_Director441 on
OMG the flip flopping of the telegraph is neck breaking, all those things they lauded over the tories doing when in power now are problematic and expensive.
CheesyBakedLobster on
Still managed to remove more than the total number of people deported to Rwanda lol
Obvious_Platypus_313 on
£150,000 Cost to the UK tax payer per migrant that reaches pension age
150,000 x 50 = 7,500,000
7.5m > 1m
Still cheaper than if they stay. This is also not taking into account the cost of pension if they live a long time.
Still a ridiculous cost.
LonelyStranger8467 on
It costs a lot of money to enforced remove people who don’t want to go home.
That’s why we may pay for their flights and pay them up to £3,000 to go home willingly. To places like Brazil, Romania, India.
SpottedDicknCustard on
>The UK’s use of private airlines for deportation flights stands in contrast to the US, where Donald Trump has deployed military aircraft to enact his plans to remove thousands of illegal migrants.
As for the remainder of the article they provide zero maths to justify how they reached the £1 million price tag they claim.
I presume that the aircraft used was Titan Airways as they are the main go to operater for government flights and the paint scheme matches their fleet, so the government would have contracted rates that would not match that.
It costs around £15k an hour to operate a 321 LR and around 4 hours to get there. So, if both legs are charged that would be around £120k.
So, I’m calling bollocks.
Far_Thought9747 on
‘This includes the cost of paying for three privately contracted security escorts to travel with each migrant to prevent any disruption during the flight and on arrival, as well as monitoring and transporting individuals to any legal court sittings and to the airport.’
So it’s not just the flight cost then.
After-Dentist-2480 on
That still works out far cheaper per deportation than the Rwanda plan was ever going to.
exileon21 on
Until we can establish that Albania is not somewhere people need to seek asylum from, we have no hope
Grayson81 on
“Get rid of the immigrants no matter what!”
“I can’t believe you’ve spent so much money getting rid of those immigrants! That’s the one thing we didn’t want you to do!”
Wipedout89 on
Costs £20k per migrant then. Massively less than it would cost to keep paying them benefits for the next 10 years
Cold_Ad759 on
Why even take in mass amounts of immigrants when its so hard or costly to deport people.
Dean1232 on
Wasn’t the cost around £40,000 a year to house and maintain a migrant before? Due to hotel usage, security, food and other needs? Can’t remember where I read so please feel free to correct me. But this will also save money in the future. Hotels closed faster etc, this is a rage baiting article more than anything else. Deport migrants, Migrants deported. Deportations costing way too much now! Defiantly and rock and a hard place for labour, hopefully some can read past the reported sensationalism.
Homogenised_Milk on
This is a travesty. Albanians are Europeans, and they simply want to peacefully sell drugs and commit fraud. These actions are best directed at third-worlders who perceive the absence of the daily threat of a warlord invading their village and dismembering them as carte blanche to behave however they like
AdNorth70 on
To be honest that’s going to be a pretty good savings over 10-20 years.
DaveyBeefcake on
Still one of the least wasteful and more responsible pieces of government spending.
NotEntirelyShure on
So they are unhappy about this but we’re in favour of the Rwanda policy that deported no one?
fearlessbot__ on
Wasn’t the telegraph advocating for exactly these overpriced private flights a few months ago?
doitnowinaminute on
This includes the cost of paying for three privately contracted security escorts to travel with each migrant to prevent any disruption during the flight and on arrival, as well as monitoring and transporting individuals to any legal court sittings and to the airport.
More than just the cost of the aircraft. Be interesting to know what the splits are for the overheads such as planes and marginal costs such as security.
Haulvern on
£20,000 each is a bargain. They cost twice that each per year and god knows how much over a lifetime! Hire more jets!
Bladders_ on
Absolute bargain. Saved multiple generations of sponges sucking us dry.
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Oh so *now* the Torygraph is put off by insane costs of deportation flights
They can hardly use Ryanair. It would violate their human rights.
If they use privet jets for immigrants, what will they use for deporting Ambanian criminals?
£1m for a chartered A321 is too expensive though, Torygraph is right.
When pilot error on Voyager Flight 333 caused the entire RAF Voyager A330 MRTT fleet to be grounded, the RAF spent just £827,000 on chartered civilian flights to replace the rest of the fleet for 13 days of flights.
OMG the flip flopping of the telegraph is neck breaking, all those things they lauded over the tories doing when in power now are problematic and expensive.
Still managed to remove more than the total number of people deported to Rwanda lol
£150,000 Cost to the UK tax payer per migrant that reaches pension age
150,000 x 50 = 7,500,000
7.5m > 1m
Still cheaper than if they stay. This is also not taking into account the cost of pension if they live a long time.
Still a ridiculous cost.
It costs a lot of money to enforced remove people who don’t want to go home.
That’s why we may pay for their flights and pay them up to £3,000 to go home willingly. To places like Brazil, Romania, India.
>The UK’s use of private airlines for deportation flights stands in contrast to the US, where Donald Trump has deployed military aircraft to enact his plans to remove thousands of illegal migrants.
Trump used [military flights as a PR stunt](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-military-deportation-flights-cost-142629504.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANr3Z_aZtyGt-frxpRJqbdcbn3BOzHS870_-RSqFiTpNAHXKEwZmRX-G7HVy978FHcEm8llOVr2IYSLTZscJze_KcAMSXnVLozdsvADSNjxSr7lrrkhAIZjQgRWPwo5Iq2xkL3STCknYTOdmBYeYUpGug0h0yZFcsp79Xq-o7PW8) and he was rightly criticised for not only the stunt but the fact they cost so much more to operate than the charter flights that are usually used.
As for the remainder of the article they provide zero maths to justify how they reached the £1 million price tag they claim.
I presume that the aircraft used was Titan Airways as they are the main go to operater for government flights and the paint scheme matches their fleet, so the government would have contracted rates that would not match that.
It costs around £15k an hour to operate a 321 LR and around 4 hours to get there. So, if both legs are charged that would be around £120k.
So, I’m calling bollocks.
‘This includes the cost of paying for three privately contracted security escorts to travel with each migrant to prevent any disruption during the flight and on arrival, as well as monitoring and transporting individuals to any legal court sittings and to the airport.’
So it’s not just the flight cost then.
That still works out far cheaper per deportation than the Rwanda plan was ever going to.
Until we can establish that Albania is not somewhere people need to seek asylum from, we have no hope
“Get rid of the immigrants no matter what!”
“I can’t believe you’ve spent so much money getting rid of those immigrants! That’s the one thing we didn’t want you to do!”
Costs £20k per migrant then. Massively less than it would cost to keep paying them benefits for the next 10 years
Why even take in mass amounts of immigrants when its so hard or costly to deport people.
Wasn’t the cost around £40,000 a year to house and maintain a migrant before? Due to hotel usage, security, food and other needs? Can’t remember where I read so please feel free to correct me. But this will also save money in the future. Hotels closed faster etc, this is a rage baiting article more than anything else. Deport migrants, Migrants deported. Deportations costing way too much now! Defiantly and rock and a hard place for labour, hopefully some can read past the reported sensationalism.
This is a travesty. Albanians are Europeans, and they simply want to peacefully sell drugs and commit fraud. These actions are best directed at third-worlders who perceive the absence of the daily threat of a warlord invading their village and dismembering them as carte blanche to behave however they like
To be honest that’s going to be a pretty good savings over 10-20 years.
Still one of the least wasteful and more responsible pieces of government spending.
So they are unhappy about this but we’re in favour of the Rwanda policy that deported no one?
Wasn’t the telegraph advocating for exactly these overpriced private flights a few months ago?
This includes the cost of paying for three privately contracted security escorts to travel with each migrant to prevent any disruption during the flight and on arrival, as well as monitoring and transporting individuals to any legal court sittings and to the airport.
More than just the cost of the aircraft. Be interesting to know what the splits are for the overheads such as planes and marginal costs such as security.
£20,000 each is a bargain. They cost twice that each per year and god knows how much over a lifetime! Hire more jets!
Absolute bargain. Saved multiple generations of sponges sucking us dry.