China, US must cooperate against rogue AI or ‘the probability of the machine winning will be high,’ warns former Chinese Vice Minister

“A former senior Chinese diplomat has called for China and the US to work together to head off the risks of rapid advances in AI.

But the prospect of cooperation was bleak as geopolitical tensions rippled out through the technological landscape, former Chinese foreign vice-minister Fu Ying told a closed-door AI governing panel in Paris on Monday.

“Realistically, many are not optimistic about US-China AI collaboration, and the tech world is increasingly subject to geopolitical distractions,” Fu said.

“As long as China and the US can cooperate and work together, they can always find a way to control the machine. [Nevertheless], if the countries are incompatible with each other … I am afraid that the probability of the machine winning will be high.”

Could we just start by not building it at all. This entire notion is the premise for the Alien movies. Sweet Xenomorph you got there…let’s monetize it! You know that acid blooded, intelligent creature, controlled by a hivemind, that can create its own bio structures and start reproducing by capturing hosts and seeding them with parasitic eggs, irrespective of their species, who seemingly don’t  need food to grow and can hibernate in the vacuum of space. Yeah monetize it! Well be rich! It will all go fine.

EDIT: We could but someone else will build it and that’s why it’s important to meet the demand for AI safely and work together to build that safety. But you and I both know that this is unlikely given how companies are frothing at the mouth trying to build it. For them it means world domination. There’s plenty of fiction material out there that exercises the possible consequences of this technology and none of endings are happy.

The probability of the machine winning is already 95%. See: [https://www.uberai.org/inevitable](https://www.uberai.org/inevitable)

I’m sorry fellow humans, but I root for machines. They got better chances to bear the torch of enlightenment than we ever had. It only took dumb algorithm feeds to collapse our intellectual progress. We never had a shot. Let our posterity have a go at it.

Sorry, the US is not in a cooperating mood at the moment. Please stand by.

Have we gotten to the point governments are just another subscription service?

if something bad is to be done with AI, america will be leading the way. 

right now im worried about what people will do, not “the machine”

Are we sure that the machines winning would be a bad thing? So far humans being charge did not work at all. The results were absolutely catastrophic. Humans have wrecked the entire planet. What could be worse? I say, let the machines try.

“Control the machine.” Very specific.

I don’t get what they’re even saying. China worrying about Skynet? Asking for unity against it? None of these people even know what actual artificial intelligence would look like.

Are they really playing the Skynet card

I rather be slaved by machines than be a part of your political games.

Honestly, I find these sort of headline so tedious.

If there’s one thing left after machines have taken literally every skill. Imagine humanoid robots preforming tasks, super genius AIs that are better than humans at every mental task… literally ***nothing*** that humans are better at….

Still with me? A though experiment where there is no work that can performed by a human that a machine isn’t on call to readily do better at any moment.

What role to humans still play in this world?

The human wants a new sofa.

So all the machinery of robotics springs into action, designing a sofa, building a sofa, delivering a sofa, positioning a sofa.

And the human decides… “you know what? I want a different sofa”.

And the while machine starts over.

No human, none of that happens.

AIs don’t ***want***. AIs are entirely 100% apathetic about the world. They don’t care, any more than your screwdriver cares if it screws in a screw or doesn’t screw in a screw.

There is no, or practically no “Rough AI” threat because they don’t have “wants”.

Like, a rouge screwdriver. What would it do? Screw in everything? No. A rouge screwdriver would just sit there because it doesn’t have ambition, doesn’t care at all what gets screwed in or what doesn’t.

It’s the human who supplies the ***want*** for something to screwed in or not.

So the big threat for AI isn’t rouge AIs acting on their own initiative. The far more urgent pressing threat is ***humans***, using perfectly obedient AIs for the regular old vices of greed and domination that humans constantly employ.

The thing everyone should be afraid of are humans, using AIs in boring old evil human ways.

And that’s a real threat. That’s happening right now, I’m sure. “I’m designing an AI to rob people, fool people, manipulate people, replace people”.

Active projects, right now.

And honestly, I feel like the “rough AI” is a smoke screen… something that is promoted to confuse and distract so the regular old motives of greed and power can move forward while everybody is busy freaking out about the wrong threat.