And people said the Trump presidency would be good for space.
PM_ME_FUTANARI420 on
Nice. This is gonna save a lot of tax money and reduce redundancy
p00p00kach00 on
Good post, but unfortunately, this thread will probably be locked and deleted because it’s “political” and reflects poorly on Elon and Trump since they are the cause of all these people being fired and the future of NASA and space research being destroyed. (Numerous other threads have been locked and often deleted for being political, but seemingly only when it looks bad for Elon/Trump.)
I interviewed at my dream job at NASA about 10 months ago after applying for 6 years. (I have a PhD in astronomy.) I’m now very thankful I didn’t get it. I’d be getting fired right now despite being a fed for 7 years now since you become “probationary” again when you switch agency/job titles.
Edit: It’s also a bit crazy to ban threads that have a political angle *when the entire space race in the 1950s and 1960s was driven by politics*, not to mention tons of stuff today, from astronomy research funding to human missions to space. Politics is nearly *always* involved, and as long as there is a significant space component to the news, it should be allowed here.
newtoallofthis2 on
Don’t worry – I’m sure SpaceX has the competencies to step in. Sure they’ll be cheaper and more efficient negotiating with…..errrr…..themselves… on terms.
Stunning_Mast2001 on
Sad. A lot of the self landing rocket technology used by spacex and blue origin today was proved out by nasa in the 80s and 90s
However, by the end of today, that number will have shrunk by about 10 percent since the beginning of the second Trump administration four weeks ago. And the world’s preeminent space agency may still face significant additional cuts.
According to sources, about 750 employees at NASA accepted the “fork in the road” offer to take deferred resignation from the space agency later this year. This sounds like a lot of people, but generally about 1,000 people leave the agency every year, so effectively, many of these people might just be getting paid to leave jobs they were already planning to exit from.
The culling of “probationary” employees will be more impactful. As it has done at other federal agencies, the Trump administration is generally firing federal employees who are in the “probationary” period of their employment, which includes new hires within the last one or two years or long-time employees who have moved into or been promoted into a new position. About 1,000 or slightly more employees at NASA were impacted by these cuts.
Adding up the deferred resignations and probationary cuts, the Trump White House has now trimmed about 10 percent of the agency’s workforce.
Stardustquarks on
President Musk’s plan is to destroy NASA and provide all funding to his own Space X. And the US is going to let him do it because they’re too scared to rise up.
BarbequedYeti on
All the kids watching this go down… good luck recruiting in the future for these agencies, if they still exist.
Who would spend years in school and all the money for a career just to have some idiot erase you on a whim.
Doing the same with atc and the nuke teams… How long before all of ATC walk out and bring air travel to a stop across much of the globe?
Some governments who are investing in space exploration are about to get a wealth of talent looking for employment..
Mean-Gene91 on
You know, Obama defunding NASA, privatizing space exploration and travel, really turned out well for everyone didn’t it?…..
Basic-Strain-6922 on
**TL;DR:**
• About 1,000 people are expected to leave their jobs in the next few months. The White House is considering further cuts to the agency’s budget.
• The cuts are likely to come from employees who have already left their jobs or are moving into a new position. The agency is expected to make further cuts in the coming months, but it’s not clear how many will be made or when they will take place.
• It’s the second year in a row that the White House has cut the budget for the agency, which has a budget of about $2.2 billion. The previous year, the budget was cut by $1.9 billion, or about 6.5 percent, due to a lack of funding for the space agency’s operations.
• The new budget includes a $500 million cut to the NASA budget, which is supposed to cover the cost of the space shuttle program. The budget also includes a cut of $100 million to the U.S.
• Department of Energy’s budget, to be paid for by the State Department.
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Feruk_II on
As someone who works in an industry that regularly does large job cuts, I can see how this can be beneficial. The idea that if you cut 10% you’ll only be 90% as effective is nonsense.
CiTrus007 on
I’m certain they will be much more efficient because of that. 🥲
Brains-Not-Dogma on
Can’t wait to see SpaceX build a good telescope… oh what’s that, they can’t?
Mexicali76 on
I thought presidents were supposed to encourage and promote a strong workforce?
Hope they all land on their feet. I encourage these folks to disclose any info that they may have that is not yet public information!
Grodgers73 on
The insinuation that every person at NASA is 100% productive is asinine
JRilezzz on
What a sad disgrace this country has become. Every day I wake up to something new that is awful. My heart goes out to those hurt by this terrible administration.
sneezy336 on
This post is not about Space. Maybe it should’ve been posted on the NASA sub. Just saying.
Corgi_Afro on
As much as cost cutting and overhauling space agencies suck, it is needed.
The US is wildly overspending and that will affect everyone in the long run.
US debt is nearing 37 trillion.
riveramblnc on
Just make sure you’re letting everyone know what this is going to do to our scientific standing.
whiskeyrocks1 on
Goofballs on here cheering for people losing their jobs.
Onnissiah on
Seems most commenters here assume that NASA is 100% efficient, and thus cuts are bad.
Have you considered the possibility that NASA is a part of a government, and governments are notoriously terrible at getting shit done, and often keep employees who have a *negative* utility?
You make better rockets my removing unnecessary (and thus detrimental) parts, among other things.
It’s the same for space agencies.
I mean, read about SLS. And that’s only one example.
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And people said the Trump presidency would be good for space.
Nice. This is gonna save a lot of tax money and reduce redundancy
Good post, but unfortunately, this thread will probably be locked and deleted because it’s “political” and reflects poorly on Elon and Trump since they are the cause of all these people being fired and the future of NASA and space research being destroyed. (Numerous other threads have been locked and often deleted for being political, but seemingly only when it looks bad for Elon/Trump.)
I interviewed at my dream job at NASA about 10 months ago after applying for 6 years. (I have a PhD in astronomy.) I’m now very thankful I didn’t get it. I’d be getting fired right now despite being a fed for 7 years now since you become “probationary” again when you switch agency/job titles.
Edit: It’s also a bit crazy to ban threads that have a political angle *when the entire space race in the 1950s and 1960s was driven by politics*, not to mention tons of stuff today, from astronomy research funding to human missions to space. Politics is nearly *always* involved, and as long as there is a significant space component to the news, it should be allowed here.
Don’t worry – I’m sure SpaceX has the competencies to step in. Sure they’ll be cheaper and more efficient negotiating with…..errrr…..themselves… on terms.
Sad. A lot of the self landing rocket technology used by spacex and blue origin today was proved out by nasa in the 80s and 90s
From the article: Spread across NASA’s headquarters and 10 field centers, which dot the United States from sea to sea, the space agency has had a workforce of nearly [18,000 civil servants](https://www.nasa.gov/organization/#:~:text=The%20agency's%20organization%20comprises%20a,for%20the%20benefit%20of%20humanity.).
However, by the end of today, that number will have shrunk by about 10 percent since the beginning of the second Trump administration four weeks ago. And the world’s preeminent space agency may still face significant additional cuts.
According to sources, about 750 employees at NASA accepted the “fork in the road” offer to take deferred resignation from the space agency later this year. This sounds like a lot of people, but generally about 1,000 people leave the agency every year, so effectively, many of these people might just be getting paid to leave jobs they were already planning to exit from.
The culling of “probationary” employees will be more impactful. As it has done at other federal agencies, the Trump administration is generally firing federal employees who are in the “probationary” period of their employment, which includes new hires within the last one or two years or long-time employees who have moved into or been promoted into a new position. About 1,000 or slightly more employees at NASA were impacted by these cuts.
Adding up the deferred resignations and probationary cuts, the Trump White House has now trimmed about 10 percent of the agency’s workforce.
President Musk’s plan is to destroy NASA and provide all funding to his own Space X. And the US is going to let him do it because they’re too scared to rise up.
All the kids watching this go down… good luck recruiting in the future for these agencies, if they still exist.
Who would spend years in school and all the money for a career just to have some idiot erase you on a whim.
Doing the same with atc and the nuke teams… How long before all of ATC walk out and bring air travel to a stop across much of the globe?
Some governments who are investing in space exploration are about to get a wealth of talent looking for employment..
You know, Obama defunding NASA, privatizing space exploration and travel, really turned out well for everyone didn’t it?…..
**TL;DR:**
• About 1,000 people are expected to leave their jobs in the next few months. The White House is considering further cuts to the agency’s budget.
• The cuts are likely to come from employees who have already left their jobs or are moving into a new position. The agency is expected to make further cuts in the coming months, but it’s not clear how many will be made or when they will take place.
• It’s the second year in a row that the White House has cut the budget for the agency, which has a budget of about $2.2 billion. The previous year, the budget was cut by $1.9 billion, or about 6.5 percent, due to a lack of funding for the space agency’s operations.
• The new budget includes a $500 million cut to the NASA budget, which is supposed to cover the cost of the space shuttle program. The budget also includes a cut of $100 million to the U.S.
• Department of Energy’s budget, to be paid for by the State Department.
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As someone who works in an industry that regularly does large job cuts, I can see how this can be beneficial. The idea that if you cut 10% you’ll only be 90% as effective is nonsense.
I’m certain they will be much more efficient because of that. 🥲
Can’t wait to see SpaceX build a good telescope… oh what’s that, they can’t?
I thought presidents were supposed to encourage and promote a strong workforce?
Hope they all land on their feet. I encourage these folks to disclose any info that they may have that is not yet public information!
The insinuation that every person at NASA is 100% productive is asinine
What a sad disgrace this country has become. Every day I wake up to something new that is awful. My heart goes out to those hurt by this terrible administration.
This post is not about Space. Maybe it should’ve been posted on the NASA sub. Just saying.
As much as cost cutting and overhauling space agencies suck, it is needed.
The US is wildly overspending and that will affect everyone in the long run.
US debt is nearing 37 trillion.
Just make sure you’re letting everyone know what this is going to do to our scientific standing.
Goofballs on here cheering for people losing their jobs.
Seems most commenters here assume that NASA is 100% efficient, and thus cuts are bad.
Have you considered the possibility that NASA is a part of a government, and governments are notoriously terrible at getting shit done, and often keep employees who have a *negative* utility?
You make better rockets my removing unnecessary (and thus detrimental) parts, among other things.
It’s the same for space agencies.
I mean, read about SLS. And that’s only one example.