> “We find the appellant would be returning to Iraq without documentation and that he would therefore face a real risk of encountering treatment or conditions which are contrary to Article three of the ECHR,” said the judge.
I guess problem solved for anyone wondering how to claim asylum without a proper reason, without having to pretend you are gay.
JDNM on
Proper free for all. Just do away with passports already, they’re meaningless these days.
stinkyjim88 on
People then act surprised on this particular sub, on why Reform are surging .
MDK1980 on
Find it amazing that literally anyone can just arrive on our shores with a sad story, and the government just *has* to believe them. No burden of proof. As long as what they’re saying fits in with a random passage from the ECHR, they’re golden.
Jealous-Hedgehog-734 on
The UKs judiciary seem to be able to find ever more creative reasons to approve asylum claims. Unfortunately this undermines the governments attempts to look like they can meaningfully reform immigration.
Cyclops251 on
Think of all the proof UK citizens are required to provide in their life to live in our country, from HMRC, to Universal Credit, to Passports etc etc etc. And if we don’t, we don’t get access to whatever we’re applying for.
But if you come to this country illegally, break our laws from the moment they set foot in our country, and claim asylum based on a car – did he fleece them too as he’s fleecing us? How come his mother’s so safe from these people then? – the red carpet is laid out.
Sickening.
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TwentyCharactersShor on
“He’s not an asylum seeker, he’s a very naughty boy.”
Jay_6125 on
We need an establishment and judiciary sackings/clear out. They are actively working against the British public.
Grand-Bullfrog3861 on
Should we not just send him and his mother back to Iraq? I don’t get how pathetic of a country we can be
ImJustARunawaay on
And we move one step closer to what looks to be now the inevitable removal of the ECHR, or at least our legislations deferral to it.
It’ll happen if this goes on. Not with this government of course, but in time
LOTDT on
As always the truth is at the bottom of the telegraph piece.
>The tribunal heard the Iraqi mechanic was “kidnapped by the owners of the vehicle, beaten and threatened. This attack was reported to the Asayish [Kurdish security forces] but to no avail and subsequently the appellant left Iraq and travelled to the UK”.
>Judge Williams said: “We accept as credible that the appellant’s mother is withholding his CSID. It is accepted the appellant has been kidnapped and beaten and that these events precipitated his exit from Iraq.
>“It is unsurprising that the appellant’s mother is not willing to comply with a request which could facilitate his return and even were the appellant to explain the findings of the tribunal to her, i.e. that he is no longer at risk, we do not consider it likely that she would simply change her mind and provide the CSID to him.”
ChocolateLeibniz on
Just another day of the patients running the asylum.
CanaryWundaboy on
No passport, no entry. Failure to produce passport should be a criminal offence. Criminal offence = deportation to the country you claimed you were from when you arrived. Didn’t arrive properly and fill in the form = criminal offence.
This isn’t hard to do but we seem completely unable to take a sensible approach to this for some reason.
modsarescourge-3468 on
Laughing stock U.K., every single Islamic asylum seeker that makes it here never goes home.
mittfh on
Surely it should be possible for the UK government to contact the Iraqi government and ask them to either (a) demand how other hands over his CSID, or (b) issue him with a new temporary one to enable him to travel back?
However, these immigration articles by the Telegraph have to be read with care, as sometimes they’re not what they seem: the chicken nuggets case was a First Tier decision and has been appealed by the government, the Gaza case was allowed as although they applied using the wrong scheme, (a) they’re paid members of Fatah so would be in danger from both sides, and (b) their brother, who came over 15 years ago, and is now a UK citizen, is earning over £3,500 pcm so can accommodate and support them without them needing recourse to state funds.
Virtual-Guitar-9814 on
i got a english yob mate who’s been hanging out in Bahgdad with loads of local emo metalheads for the last 5 years.
if he can hang there, its safe.
JoelMahon on
oh look, a bunch of people who became citizens here by dumb luck bitching about how it’s too easy to get in
I bet >98% of you would fail any uk citizenship exam
kerrong on
I think reforms biggest supporters are legal immigrants who came here through all the correct legal procedures. costing thousands to find out if they came on a boat for from france they would’ve gotten everything for free and handed out to them
PidginEnjoyer on
And yet more single issue voters are created.
Reform are going to clear the board in 2029 at this rate.
CMDRHarath on
Firstly, it’s the torygraph.
Secondly *ANY* news outlet will report a court decision in a way which generates revenue. It will inevitably contain a handful of the actual facts and reasons, and not tell the whole story.
it’s outrage clickbait, pure and simple.
MaievSekashi on
Gotta say that that kid has a mum who’ll really go to bat for him. Whatever anyone thinks about it, she’s just being a good mother in this context.
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> “We find the appellant would be returning to Iraq without documentation and that he would therefore face a real risk of encountering treatment or conditions which are contrary to Article three of the ECHR,” said the judge.
I guess problem solved for anyone wondering how to claim asylum without a proper reason, without having to pretend you are gay.
Proper free for all. Just do away with passports already, they’re meaningless these days.
People then act surprised on this particular sub, on why Reform are surging .
Find it amazing that literally anyone can just arrive on our shores with a sad story, and the government just *has* to believe them. No burden of proof. As long as what they’re saying fits in with a random passage from the ECHR, they’re golden.
The UKs judiciary seem to be able to find ever more creative reasons to approve asylum claims. Unfortunately this undermines the governments attempts to look like they can meaningfully reform immigration.
Think of all the proof UK citizens are required to provide in their life to live in our country, from HMRC, to Universal Credit, to Passports etc etc etc. And if we don’t, we don’t get access to whatever we’re applying for.
But if you come to this country illegally, break our laws from the moment they set foot in our country, and claim asylum based on a car – did he fleece them too as he’s fleecing us? How come his mother’s so safe from these people then? – the red carpet is laid out.
Sickening.
[deleted]
“He’s not an asylum seeker, he’s a very naughty boy.”
We need an establishment and judiciary sackings/clear out. They are actively working against the British public.
Should we not just send him and his mother back to Iraq? I don’t get how pathetic of a country we can be
And we move one step closer to what looks to be now the inevitable removal of the ECHR, or at least our legislations deferral to it.
It’ll happen if this goes on. Not with this government of course, but in time
As always the truth is at the bottom of the telegraph piece.
>The tribunal heard the Iraqi mechanic was “kidnapped by the owners of the vehicle, beaten and threatened. This attack was reported to the Asayish [Kurdish security forces] but to no avail and subsequently the appellant left Iraq and travelled to the UK”.
>Judge Williams said: “We accept as credible that the appellant’s mother is withholding his CSID. It is accepted the appellant has been kidnapped and beaten and that these events precipitated his exit from Iraq.
>“It is unsurprising that the appellant’s mother is not willing to comply with a request which could facilitate his return and even were the appellant to explain the findings of the tribunal to her, i.e. that he is no longer at risk, we do not consider it likely that she would simply change her mind and provide the CSID to him.”
Just another day of the patients running the asylum.
No passport, no entry. Failure to produce passport should be a criminal offence. Criminal offence = deportation to the country you claimed you were from when you arrived. Didn’t arrive properly and fill in the form = criminal offence.
This isn’t hard to do but we seem completely unable to take a sensible approach to this for some reason.
Laughing stock U.K., every single Islamic asylum seeker that makes it here never goes home.
Surely it should be possible for the UK government to contact the Iraqi government and ask them to either (a) demand how other hands over his CSID, or (b) issue him with a new temporary one to enable him to travel back?
However, these immigration articles by the Telegraph have to be read with care, as sometimes they’re not what they seem: the chicken nuggets case was a First Tier decision and has been appealed by the government, the Gaza case was allowed as although they applied using the wrong scheme, (a) they’re paid members of Fatah so would be in danger from both sides, and (b) their brother, who came over 15 years ago, and is now a UK citizen, is earning over £3,500 pcm so can accommodate and support them without them needing recourse to state funds.
i got a english yob mate who’s been hanging out in Bahgdad with loads of local emo metalheads for the last 5 years.
if he can hang there, its safe.
oh look, a bunch of people who became citizens here by dumb luck bitching about how it’s too easy to get in
I bet >98% of you would fail any uk citizenship exam
I think reforms biggest supporters are legal immigrants who came here through all the correct legal procedures. costing thousands to find out if they came on a boat for from france they would’ve gotten everything for free and handed out to them
And yet more single issue voters are created.
Reform are going to clear the board in 2029 at this rate.
Firstly, it’s the torygraph.
Secondly *ANY* news outlet will report a court decision in a way which generates revenue. It will inevitably contain a handful of the actual facts and reasons, and not tell the whole story.
it’s outrage clickbait, pure and simple.
Gotta say that that kid has a mum who’ll really go to bat for him. Whatever anyone thinks about it, she’s just being a good mother in this context.