After those visits, we’ll know for sure I guess, but I can’t imagine right now they can possibly trust the US as a ‘backstop’ even if it agreed.
Jay_6125 on
As Starmer liked dressing up in Army kit in his photo shoot, I take it he’ll be the first to deploy along with his kids as well??
He can get lost.
i-readit2 on
Europe should now be on a war time footing. Get factories set up ready to go. This is real this is happening in real time. Get your act together
BrassARM on
>Officials say the proposal would involve less than 30,000 troops and be concentrated on air and maritime defence
The British and the French can’t even work together to effectively prevent third-worlders in inflatable dinghies from crossing the Channel. Call me a pessimist, but given that we’ve demonstrated, at best, a lackluster commitment to protecting our own borders, how are we going to ‘reassure’ a country 1,000 miles away that we’ll protect theirs?
RoyaleWCheese_OK on
If they could protect Ukraine, how come they haven’t been? Bit late now. Course as run down as the armed forces are not like they’re going to be much help. Off they go, fighting in a foreign land for a different country.
MyRedundantOpinion on
Does that mean the UK is going to actually pay soldiers a wage that corresponds with risking their lives to protect this country and its interests? Or is it going to be more of a forced conscription of the poor and working class affair?
I wonder if all the migrants that were welcomed into this country and cared for are going to be part of this or?
AceOfGargoyes17 on
A “reassurance force” sounds like a group of people telling you aggressively that “you’re doing really well, it’s going to be fine”.
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richardathome on
Please don’t call it that out loud.
It’s akin to saying you promise to hold their hair while they are being sick.
Jealous-Hedgehog-734 on
Europe doesn’t have sufficient arms production capacity to back these guarantees currently.
commonsense-innit on
last thing uk needs is to be drawn into a european vietnam
sometimes a broken clock is correct, to put it mildly not a fan of trump, but in this instance i actually agree with him
dont start a fight unless you expect to win, other options are available
in the last 14 years, EU including uk, have reduced defence spending
even in good times, war with russia is not an option
in the end diplomacy will find a solution
Blobby72 on
So Starmer is meeting Trump next week? Hopefully he has a lot of patience to deal with the 🍊 and maybe even teach Donnie how to identify Russian propaganda
EntrepreneurWaste241 on
It`s time to tell the US (Trump / Vance) to fuck off, they are no friends and they`ve already sold Ukraine out.
Their peace is that Russia gets what it has at present, Ukraine gives back Kursk, no NATO membership, no NATO peace keepers, no war crime trials and Russia brought back into the G7 with sanctions wound down. What a capitulation. All those lives lost for nothing.
I wish Europe and the UK would grow a back bone and start putting boots on the ground in support functions (logistics, air support, naval support, medical) as well as special forces on the front line.
And when Trump throws his toys out of his pram tell him to fuck off as we only deal with real democracies and by the way we`re putting tariffs on you!
ethos_required on
Personally although I support the Ukrainians’ right to defend themselves I’m 100% against us going to war with Russia. I would prefer for a deal to be done where Russia gets part of the territory it has occupied and Ukraine will not join Nato. Would prefer if we sort our country out before trying to provoke a real life enactment of Threads.
Aggravating_Ant6318 on
I’m sure the Russians are shitting themselves that little Britain is going to ‘reassure’ Ukraine.
LOL.
No-Inevitable7004 on
US fucked up so bad they got the French and post-Brexit Brits working together. Voluntarily.
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After those visits, we’ll know for sure I guess, but I can’t imagine right now they can possibly trust the US as a ‘backstop’ even if it agreed.
As Starmer liked dressing up in Army kit in his photo shoot, I take it he’ll be the first to deploy along with his kids as well??
He can get lost.
Europe should now be on a war time footing. Get factories set up ready to go. This is real this is happening in real time. Get your act together
>Officials say the proposal would involve less than 30,000 troops and be concentrated on air and maritime defence
The British and the French can’t even work together to effectively prevent third-worlders in inflatable dinghies from crossing the Channel. Call me a pessimist, but given that we’ve demonstrated, at best, a lackluster commitment to protecting our own borders, how are we going to ‘reassure’ a country 1,000 miles away that we’ll protect theirs?
If they could protect Ukraine, how come they haven’t been? Bit late now. Course as run down as the armed forces are not like they’re going to be much help. Off they go, fighting in a foreign land for a different country.
Does that mean the UK is going to actually pay soldiers a wage that corresponds with risking their lives to protect this country and its interests? Or is it going to be more of a forced conscription of the poor and working class affair?
I wonder if all the migrants that were welcomed into this country and cared for are going to be part of this or?
A “reassurance force” sounds like a group of people telling you aggressively that “you’re doing really well, it’s going to be fine”.
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Please don’t call it that out loud.
It’s akin to saying you promise to hold their hair while they are being sick.
Europe doesn’t have sufficient arms production capacity to back these guarantees currently.
last thing uk needs is to be drawn into a european vietnam
sometimes a broken clock is correct, to put it mildly not a fan of trump, but in this instance i actually agree with him
dont start a fight unless you expect to win, other options are available
in the last 14 years, EU including uk, have reduced defence spending
even in good times, war with russia is not an option
in the end diplomacy will find a solution
So Starmer is meeting Trump next week? Hopefully he has a lot of patience to deal with the 🍊 and maybe even teach Donnie how to identify Russian propaganda
It`s time to tell the US (Trump / Vance) to fuck off, they are no friends and they`ve already sold Ukraine out.
Their peace is that Russia gets what it has at present, Ukraine gives back Kursk, no NATO membership, no NATO peace keepers, no war crime trials and Russia brought back into the G7 with sanctions wound down. What a capitulation. All those lives lost for nothing.
I wish Europe and the UK would grow a back bone and start putting boots on the ground in support functions (logistics, air support, naval support, medical) as well as special forces on the front line.
And when Trump throws his toys out of his pram tell him to fuck off as we only deal with real democracies and by the way we`re putting tariffs on you!
Personally although I support the Ukrainians’ right to defend themselves I’m 100% against us going to war with Russia. I would prefer for a deal to be done where Russia gets part of the territory it has occupied and Ukraine will not join Nato. Would prefer if we sort our country out before trying to provoke a real life enactment of Threads.
I’m sure the Russians are shitting themselves that little Britain is going to ‘reassure’ Ukraine.
LOL.
US fucked up so bad they got the French and post-Brexit Brits working together. Voluntarily.